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by **redmikey** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:12 pm

if owen came back all the i hate owen brigade would change there tune when the goals started going in.. fickle feckwits that can't recognise the greatness of the lad and the talent that he still possess if he is good enough for gerrard he's good enough for me.

imho he believe he made a mistake after bad advise from agents, and lets not forget at the time gerrard was thinking of leaving and carra was not in favour with a section of fans because he wasn't world class ( and still isn't a world class right back, because he is a world class cb)

i agree with the get a grip section of this thread,

I only ask this question of the " I hate owen knobs" would he improve our 1st team,

YES is the only answer by the way

by **Rafa D** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:21 pm

by **JC_81** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:23 pm

redmikey wrote:if owen came back all the i hate owen brigade would change there tune when the goals started going in.. fickle feckwits that can't recognise the greatness of the lad and the talent that he still possess if he is good enough for gerrard he's good enough for me.

imho he believe he made a mistake after bad advise from agents, and lets not forget at the time gerrard was thinking of leaving and carra was not in favour with a section of fans because he wasn't world class ( and still isn't a world class right back, because he is a world class cb)

i agree with the get a grip section of this thread,

I only ask this question of the " I hate owen knobs" would he improve our 1st team,

YES is the only answer by the way

Didn't realise Owen's mum was a member of the forum...

by **Garymac** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:29 pm

Fact is if we was doing sh!te we would all want Owen back, but everything is rosey in the garden Liverpool at the moment so its easy to have a cheap dig.

And saint, how could Owen possibly be surplus to requirements when he is there only decent striker, they obviouusly want Defoe to partner Owen.

The fu*king stupidity of folk on here sometimes is beyond me.

Owen was sensational for us and carried us with Gerrard, we sahould be talking about the memorys he left us with Rafa than what he has done for the last 2 years.

by **JC_81** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:38 pm

Garymac wrote:Fact is if we was doing sh!te we would all want Owen back, but everything is rosey in the garden Liverpool at the moment so its easy to have a cheap dig.

Bollox mate.

All may be rosey at the moment but the fact is we still need a top class striker and despite that there are plenty of people who wouldn't take him back even now.

Putting all the history between Owen/LFC behind us I still wouldn't have him back. He's only had one relatively injury free season in his last 4 - and that was at Madrid where he wasn't playing a lot.

It's the people who think Owen would still walk back into this current LFC team and be the star that he was the first time round that need the wake-up call. He's not as good as he once was and while he would still be an improvement on Cisse/Morientes by some way, we could do a lot better.

by **account deleted by request** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:41 pm

And saint, how could Owen possibly be surplus to requirements when he is there only decent striker, they obviouusly want Defoe to partner Owen.

One can only hope.I was hoping that they would buy Defoe and sell Owen back to us. Owen and Defoe together would be a terrible combination they are too similar in style(just that Owen is different class)

by **yckatbjywtbiastkamb** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:50 pm

mcmanaman was shafted by the club before he ran his contract out.
he came through the youth system and was our best player for a good few seasons in the mid 90`s, all his close mates were at the club and he wouldnt have dreamt of leaving but one day he came in to hear roy evans say to him out of the blue `we want to sell you to barcelona`. macca was heartbroken, he realised liverpool didnt want him so he went to listen to what barca had to say and then had to suffer the indignity of barca saying we dont want you we want rivaldo instead. macca thought he was the first name on the teamsheet and it was a shock to hear instead your the first name out of the door.
at that moment macca realised it was a cold business and thought to himself well if thats the way the club want to play it.
the club bent over backwards for michael owen but he strung the club and the fans along for 18 months with that `my agents on holiday` or `there`s no rush to sign` rubbish.
it wasnt a last minute decision, owen had leaving on his mind for over 2 years.
only after the embarressing flight home from barcelona did mcmanaman have leaving on his mind.

by **dawson99** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:53 pm

john craig wrote:
Garymac wrote:Fact is if we was doing sh!te we would all want Owen back, but everything is rosey in the garden Liverpool at the moment so its easy to have a cheap dig.

Bollox mate.

All may be rosey at the moment but the fact is we still need a top class striker and despite that there are plenty of people who wouldn't take him back even now.

Putting all the history between Owen/LFC behind us I still wouldn't have him back. He's only had one relatively injury free season in his last 4 - and that was at Madrid where he wasn't playing a lot.

It's the people who think Owen would still walk back into this current LFC team and be the star that he was the first time round that need the wake-up call. He's not as good as he once was and while he would still be an improvement on Cisse/Morientes by some way, we could do a lot better.

here here. hes gone, we have got over it and moved on, the futures bright, and it aint owen

by **Garymac** » Sat May 20, 2006 6:14 pm

dawson99 wrote:
john craig wrote:
Garymac wrote:Fact is if we was doing sh!te we would all want Owen back, but everything is rosey in the garden Liverpool at the moment so its easy to have a cheap dig.

Bollox mate.

All may be rosey at the moment but the fact is we still need a top class striker and despite that there are plenty of people who wouldn't take him back even now.

Putting all the history between Owen/LFC behind us I still wouldn't have him back. He's only had one relatively injury free season in his last 4 - and that was at Madrid where he wasn't playing a lot.

It's the people who think Owen would still walk back into this current LFC team and be the star that he was the first time round that need the wake-up call. He's not as good as he once was and while he would still be an improvement on Cisse/Morientes by some way, we could do a lot better.

here here. hes gone, we have got over it and moved on, the futures bright, and it aint owen

Dawson thats my fu*king point ive made, i dont want him back, my point is people having a pop at him because we are doing well now, he made a career move and a bad one at that but there is no need for people, 2 years later to have a cheap dig at him.

The same with Macca, these players gave us some great times and its that they should be remembered for, not what happened when they left.

Youve totally twisted my point to make it sound like im wanting Owen back, ive not even made such a statement that i want him here.

Owen can see how well we are doing without the supporters who once loved him going on, if im honest a few people sound a bit bitter by the fact he left us, Like you say Liverpool have moved on and so has he, and thats the way it should be left.

I personally couldnt give a fu*k.

And saint, tell him how Owen and Defoe will be a terrible combination, When they have never played together. I bet defenders would hate having them 2 running at them, why is simliar not a good thing, 2 out and out strikers with pace and a good finish, i cant see whats so bad about it.

by **account deleted by request** » Sat May 20, 2006 6:30 pm

why is simliar not a good thing, 2 out and out strikers with pace and a good finish, i cant see whats so bad about it.

Its only my opinion but two small similar players would be easy to defend against by playing deep and leaving no space behind the defence for them to run into. In the same way as its not usually a good idea to play two tall slow players together. the defence plays high and they cant threaten with headers. One tall one small seems to be the accepted approach.

by **matrix** » Sat May 20, 2006 6:52 pm

s@int wrote:
not one player thats left our great club has ever gone on to better things.

Steve Mcmanaman.... won 2 Champs.Leagues with Real Madrid but at least we got our own back when he finished up playing for ManCity reserves.

ive nothing against owen, i dont feel the same way about maca that son of a bit.ch walked out on a bosman he stabbed us in the heart, he then defended owen for leaving, he is the only ex reds player i hate he thought he was bigger than the club, like fecking hell he was :angry:

by **azriahmad** » Sat May 20, 2006 6:56 pm

I gont no problems with Owen, he contributed a lot towards the Liverpool FC cause when he was with us and was a great servant.

He chose to leave and he again chose to join Newcastle Utd. He could have just said "I want to got to Liverpol and refused to sign up with Newcastle but he did not do that. Good luck to him.

by **murphy0151** » Sat May 20, 2006 7:23 pm

hang him

by **kunilson** » Sun May 21, 2006 2:27 am

Owen's departure was disappointing to say the least....he treated a club which gave him his career with none of the respect we deserved. Not only did he disappoint his fellow players, but the fans and management. Fans obviously being most important

BUT, saying that...we have seen how loyalty can pay-off in Steven Gerrard, which is why i think the resentment towards Owen has been amped up. Back then, i was angry in the way he left, but i guess i could understand if he wanted to win trophies....but he never gave rafa a chance, and poetic justice is a bitch aint it michael?

im sure he looks back on it as a BIG mistake in his career, but who knows what the future will hold? if he comes back to lfc for whatever reason....he can let his football do the talking and maybe win over the fans...one thing is for sure though, he won't get the reception on his return that GODS are worthy of.....

by **66-1112520797** » Sun May 21, 2006 2:51 am

So the season has finished and there's f.uck all else to talk about !

Low and behold the Michael Owen topic is brought up, well I tell you what I'd almost forgotton who he was until now. As the old saying goes ' once you leave Liverpool your on a downhill slope' or something like that. This is true and Owens case opitimises this if I ever I'd seen it.
How does he feel ? Gutted I'd imagine, he's gone off the footballing radar as a world class striker now IMHO, due to his injuries, he will never get back his pace, which was his biggest asset aswell as sticking the ball in the back of the net. Thats all gone now I'm just glad we had him when we did, young, raw, blistering pace and a no fear attitude to take on players. We had him at his prime and lets not hide from the fact Owen was a World class striker when he was with us and gave us some of the best moments along with Stevie G in recent history. When I look back at his departure from the club it tends to leave me with a slightly bitter taste in my mouth, in truth. But I've gotton over that and so should most Liverpool fans, the only one who shouldnt of gotton over the mistake is Mikey himself.

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