Liverpool FC Forum

stmichael wrote:it just seems to me that all the egotistical members of the liverpool board are contradicting themselves. moores comes out at the agm and says fourth is the MINIMUM REQUIREMENT for this season. if we miss out and he keeps houllier on then it's a disgrace because he will have lied to everybody.

JohnBull wrote:Once again the powers in charge at Liverpool have shown their brilliance at avoiding the real issue. The group of no-marks who are in charge now would never reach such positions of importance anywhere else. It is in their short-term interests to keep things as they are and bringing in expensive signings and pointing fingers at the past failings which THEY approved just fog the issue.
Rick Parry is an overpaid chancer, David Moores is a wealthy son of a grafter but does nothing, Houlliere is a school teacher promoted beyond his ability, Phil Thompson was an average midfielder moved to defence, who managed 42 caps because he played for Liverpool, not because he was international quality,and who then had the nerve to question Paisley when the Hanson/Lawro partnership was formed, spat his dummy out and went to Sheffield Utd,  Steve Heighway has done nothing to improve the relationship between the Academy and Melwood because he is an arrogant ba#ta#d who always knows better.
How can anyone expect teamwork on the pitch when there is f##k-all behind the scenes?
The great days, which I was lucky to see, created an empire which has slowly but surely been taken over by the hangers-on. the carpet-baggers,the "prawn sandwich" munchers, the fair weather supporters who did nothing to contribute to the circus now evident at Anfeild Road which has created a load of millionaires but no true LFC Men.
A revolution is required and as normal the working man will pay for it and the fancy-Dans will walk away whistling Dixie.

stu_the_red wrote:

I dont think there need be that many changes to the current squad. Kenco there said "new team new manager" we cant have a whole new team.

The current squad looks like this :
                        KIRKLAND
               HYYPIA           HENCHOZ
    FINNAN                                  RIISE
               
              GERRARD       HAMANN
      DIOUF                               KEWELL
             
                  OWEN        BAROS

THAT DOESNT REALLY LOOK LIKE A BAD TEAM THOSE IT NOW ?
A good new manager would greatly improve that team.


This would be realistically and hopefull the squad for next year :

                           KIRKLAND
                   HYYPIA          MEXES
        FINNAN                                RIISE

                   GERRARD        PARKER
          DIOUF                              KEWELL

                       OWEN      CISSE

Subs : Dudek,Henchoz,Hamann,Baros,LeTellec.   

I really dont see a need for a new left-back or right wing because Riise is good enough and  Diouf is improving every game so changes in these positions arent urgent.
A good new striker is necessary whether its cisse or somebody else.
It would be great if we could get Parker (if his p#ssed off with lack of games and games out of position) or another creative + attacking central midfielder. Altough Hamann is a good player (whom I greatly admire) so changes in this position also arent urgent.
But changes in centre back are very necessary and a new c.defender has to come in whether its mexes or somebody else.
Also some people think we need a new keeper but I dont agree with this as Kirkland is class but is injured all the time and Dudek is great cover.

A new manager is the first priority at the moment.
(Martin O'Neill).

I think if O'Neill was our manager we could get far with our current squad.

Parker is a Chelsea player. Stop dreaming. He isn't the answer anyways. He's a box to box midfielder... not a specialised play maker. Riise is good enough imo and so is Carragher. Diouf certainly is not. He flatters to decieve.

As for your point on O'Neil. He wouldn't play a 4-4-2. He'd go 3-5-2 and that won't win you s##t. Especially in this country and europe.

stu_the_red wrote:

We need probably three players minimum : -

Kirkland
Carragher*
Hyypia
Henchoz*
Finnan
Kewell
Hamann
Gerrard
Murphy*
Owen
Baros

* indicates a player who could do with replacing or competition (Carragher isn't left-footed, Henchoz and Hyypia aren't the quickest and we haven't any natural right-sided midfielders) Also consider the strength of replacements when we get injuries, suspensions and dips in form, not to mention for tactical options, and I'd say six new players might be needed to get us up towards the top three.

We won't do much in the CL with our current squad, ffs we can't even be certain of top four placings in the Premiership in spite of having better players man for man than the teams still just about below us

Right.. Carragher doesn't need replacing. We have Finnan, Carragher, Riise and Vignal for the full back positions and hopefully Babbel aswell. We are more than sorted there.

At centre half we do need a pacey classy player. Who we could get and fits the bill though i have no idea.

In midfield we NEED a right WINGER. Not Malbranque, a winger.... I.E. Jermaine Pennant. We also need a play maker in the centre to replace Hamann but that can come at a later stage.

We desperately need a strike partner for Owen. Those of you who think Baros is the answer are sadly mistaken. He has potential and decent ability but he's never going to be top class.

I dont think there need be that many changes to the current squad. Kenco there said "new team new manager" we cant have a whole new team.

The current squad looks like this :
                        KIRKLAND
               HYYPIA           HENCHOZ
    FINNAN                                  RIISE
               
              GERRARD       HAMANN
      DIOUF                               KEWELL
             
                  OWEN        BAROS

THAT DOESNT REALLY LOOK LIKE A BAD TEAM THOSE IT NOW ?
A good new manager would greatly improve that team.


This would be realistically and hopefull the squad for next year :

                           KIRKLAND
                   HYYPIA          MEXES
        FINNAN                                RIISE

                   GERRARD        PARKER
          DIOUF                              KEWELL

                       OWEN      CISSE

Subs : Dudek,Henchoz,Hamann,Baros,LeTellec.   

I really dont see a need for a new left-back or right wing because Riise is good enough and  Diouf is improving every game so changes in these positions arent urgent.
A good new striker is necessary whether its cisse or somebody else.
It would be great if we could get Parker (if his p#ssed off with lack of games and games out of position) or another creative + attacking central midfielder. Altough Hamann is a good player (whom I greatly admire) so changes in this position also arent urgent.
But changes in centre back are very necessary and a new c.defender has to come in whether its mexes or somebody else.
Also some people think we need a new keeper but I dont agree with this as Kirkland is class but is injured all the time and Dudek is great cover.

A new manager is the first priority at the moment.
(Martin O'Neill).

I think if O'Neill was our manager we could get far with our current squad.

Parker is a Chelsea player. Stop dreaming. He isn't the answer anyways. He's a box to box midfielder... not a specialised play maker. Riise is good enough imo and so is Carragher. Diouf certainly is not. He flatters to decieve.

As for your point on O'Neil. He wouldn't play a 4-4-2. He'd go 3-5-2 and that won't win you s##t. Especially in this country and europe.