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john craig wrote:I wonder if some of you would be so venomous in your replies if you weren't English.  Seems to me many on here have trouble accepting that the greatest footballer Britain has ever produced was from the comparitively tiny country of Northern Ireland and not England.  Most of you do concede that he was an exceptional player, but do you appreciate just how exceptional?  I doubt it. 

Bottom line is that alcoholism is a disease and there is a genetic element in a lot of cases.  Best's mother died an alcoholic, and it's a trait he has obviously inherited.  He left home at 14 to go to united, earned a hell of a lot of money for his age, was a nationwide pin-up, and enjoyed a drink, who wouldn't in his situation?  He lived in a world where every time he walked into a pub people wanted to buy him a drink.  For a guy who has alcoholism in his genes, what chance did he have?

I don't agree with him getting a new liver, but don't blame Best for that, blame the laws that allow it to happen.  If you are on your death bed and can afford life-saving treatment, are you going to turn it down?  Are you fu.ck.

I don't agree with his violence towards women and I won't try and defend that, I'm not saying he was a top human being, but remember this.  The English media has enjoyed nothing more over the years than putting Best down.  Nothing to write about?  What's George been up to?  Send a couple of boys down the pub and get them to ply him with drink, then take a picture of him sleeping it off on the park bench.  Because that sort of thing went on, no doubt about it.  He may get the violent head on when he's pis.sed, but nothing like to the scale of what the tabloids make out.

And now, when the guy is lying on his death bed, some uninformed come on here and feel the need to share their wisdom on how he deserves to die??  Shower of w@nkers and you should be ashamed of yourselves.

In 20 years time when it's Gazza, an ENGLISH footballing hero, lying on his death bed after falling off the wagon spectacularly and after a life of binge drinking and wife-beating, remember what you said about George Best.  Let's see what you say then.

Well said as ever Mister Craig  

People need to wake up to the fact that alcoholism is a mental illness and ditch the shi.tty stigma
Its easy to pass judgement on what you dont understand...a hell of a lot harder to judge correctly

john craig wrote:I wonder if some of you would be so venomous in your replies if you weren't English.  Seems to me many on here have trouble accepting that the greatest footballer Britain has ever produced was from the comparitively tiny country of Northern Ireland and not England.  Most of you do concede that he was an exceptional player, but do you appreciate just how exceptional?  I doubt it. 

Bottom line is that alcoholism is a disease and there is a genetic element in a lot of cases.  Best's mother died an alcoholic, and it's a trait he has obviously inherited.  He left home at 14 to go to united, earned a hell of a lot of money for his age, was a nationwide pin-up, and enjoyed a drink, who wouldn't in his situation?  He lived in a world where every time he walked into a pub people wanted to buy him a drink.  For a guy who has alcoholism in his genes, what chance did he have?

I don't agree with him getting a new liver, but don't blame Best for that, blame the laws that allow it to happen.  If you are on your death bed and can afford life-saving treatment, are you going to turn it down?  Are you fu.ck.

I don't agree with his violence towards women and I won't try and defend that, I'm not saying he was a top human being, but remember this.  The English media has enjoyed nothing more over the years than putting Best down.  Nothing to write about?  What's George been up to?  Send a couple of boys down the pub and get them to ply him with drink, then take a picture of him sleeping it off on the park bench.  Because that sort of thing went on, no doubt about it.  He may get the violent head on when he's pis.sed, but nothing like to the scale of what the tabloids make out.

And now, when the guy is lying on his death bed, some uninformed come on here and feel the need to share their wisdom on how he deserves to die??  Shower of w@nkers and you should be ashamed of yourselves.

In 20 years time when it's Gazza, an ENGLISH footballing hero, lying on his death bed after falling off the wagon spectacularly and after a life of binge drinking and wife-beating, remember what you said about George Best.  Let's see what you say then.

maximus wrote:Boo hoo hoo!!

As for Gazza he is a complete wife beating no.b head too!!

Really well thought out response mate 

supersub wrote:alcoholic gene...there's a new one.Sympathy for Best..no
                                               Sympathy for Gazza..no

Country of origin has nothing to do with it...being a selfish pi.sshead is the reason.

Lando_Griffin wrote:John Craig - I hope you didn't aim that at me.
I never once mentioned his alcoholism. He is a complete tw*t, who's beaten the f*ck out of countless women, thinks he's above the law, and has refused to do anything for anyone else. If he had, he'd have given up the booze for his family. (Alcoholism is not inherited. A person only becomes dependant upon drink (or drugs) after abusing it. They see it as an escape from depression without realising that the beer IS the depressant.)
As far as I am aware, he's never done anything for charity despite his massive fame. (I could be wrong).
Not only that, but from the interviews I've read he also sounds like a self-obsessed, arrogant bully.
I'm boggered if you think I'm going to start kissing his a*se now he's dying.

P.S. I honestly couldn't give a sh*t where he's from, and before you start with the territorial b*llocks, it may interest you to know that I think Gazza is just as big a c*nt as Best.

john craig wrote:

supersub wrote:alcoholic gene...there's a new one.Sympathy for Best..no
                                               Sympathy for Gazza..no

Country of origin has nothing to do with it...being a selfish pi.sshead is the reason.

Alcoholic gene a new one?  I never said that, there has not been a specific gene discovered relating to alcoholism, but it's been proven that there definitely is an inherited element to it.  Read the odd broadsheet once in a while and you'd know that.

Country of origin has nothing to do with it?  In terms of the fact that both Best and Gazza are wife beaters, you're right.  But in terms of the way a lot of people and the English media portray Best, you're wrong.

Poor Gazza the fallen hero, just lost his way a bit.  Evil George Best the wife beater, deserves all he gets.  But in reality they're very similar, except Best was 10 times the player Gazza could ever have hoped to be.  Country of origin has a massive bearing on how the English public perceive these two.

Bamaga man wrote:

john craig wrote:

supersub wrote:alcoholic gene...there's a new one.Sympathy for Best..no
                                               Sympathy for Gazza..no

Country of origin has nothing to do with it...being a selfish pi.sshead is the reason.

Alcoholic gene a new one?  I never said that, there has not been a specific gene discovered relating to alcoholism, but it's been proven that there definitely is an inherited element to it.  Read the odd broadsheet once in a while and you'd know that.

Country of origin has nothing to do with it?  In terms of the fact that both Best and Gazza are wife beaters, you're right.  But in terms of the way a lot of people and the English media portray Best, you're wrong.

Poor Gazza the fallen hero, just lost his way a bit.  Evil George Best the wife beater, deserves all he gets.  But in reality they're very similar, except Best was 10 times the player Gazza could ever have hoped to be.  Country of origin has a massive bearing on how the English public perceive these two.

No mate your way off the mark with this English hang-up thing.

The British press will put anyone done and they did this with Gazza also. I never saw Best play but my Dad tells me he was one of the best footballers he's ever seen, (my dad is English) and I have heard many Englishman say this.

But dont forget your on a Liverpool forum so judgement may be clouded a bit .

Bamaga man wrote:You can stick to your opinion right or wrong I dont really care but it just seems with a couple of your posts you have a slight chip on your block.