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by **Woollyback** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 10:09 am

I think the middle ground is the place to be here. I agree you can't have the players shouting down the manager and trying to run the club, but when a manager is so obviously failing and making inexplicable decisions then it is right for his decisions to be quesionned.

Choosing Biscan ahead of Henchoz is absolutely baffling. Surely not even Stu, can you defend that?

by **Fowler_E7** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 10:12 am

It just seems to me that houllier never trys to mend a rift he just gets rid of the player.

by **Owzat** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:21 pm

woof woof ! wrote:
Woollyback wrote:Can't agree with that boys. Do you accept everything the government does and says without questioning it?

Blind faith is a dangerous thing in any walk of life, football included

I know what you're saying , I think Stu is from the Brian Clough school of management and thats ok too.
You can't have players constantly questioning your decisions.
Anyway as Stu pointed out all Henchoz said was (when asked)
"I don't know why I'm not playing"

Houllier should have gone by now. I'd be pretty p1ssed off if I was Henchoz sitting on the bench with Biscan in my place

by **woof woof !** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:46 pm

zackboxer wrote:I'd feel pretty baffled if Igor Biscan got chosen instead of me and I haven't kicked a ball in years!!

Neither has Biscan

Or did I miss something

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:15 pm

all i can say on the matter of Henchoz's ommission from our quality squad,is what the F**K IS THAT FOOL OF A MANAGER THINKING OF IS HE TOTALLY FUC*KING CLUELESS ,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 OK IM CALM NOW

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:17 pm

OH BEFORE I GET REPLIE'S QUOTING ME ON THE TERM QUALITY SQUAD ,IT WAS SARCASTIC, CHEERS

by **The_Rock** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:49 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:OH BEFORE I GET REPLIE'S QUOTING ME ON THE TERM QUALITY SQUAD ,IT WAS SARCASTIC, CHEERS

i thought it was a belated april fools...hahhahah.

I can see where u are going. The only way i will drop henchoz is if i had Terry, Gallas or Nesta.

by **JBG** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:12 pm

I think Stu is right when he says players shouldn't critise managers (especially in public) but I do sympathise with Henchoz because in my opinion he is the best out and out defender at the club (better than Hyppia in defending although doesn't have Hyppia's aerial ability nor leadership skills).

by **Fowler_E7** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:16 pm

Players shoudnt criticise, but they should be allowed to speak there minds in a way that wont effect the reputatuion of the club. Houllier goes mad if any player talks to the press about anything other than how great we are! take litmanen for eg, i think he just said he was unhappy about being left out so much, he didnt criticise houllier directly and he was gone in days! Houllier just a stubborn, arrogant moron he couldnt win us the league if man u, arsenal and chelsea dropped out!

by **steviec** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:19 pm

With a bit of luck, Heskey, Biscan, Diouf, and Traore will start complaining too?

by **The_Rock** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:29 pm

steviec wrote:With a bit of luck, Heskey, Biscan, Diouf, and Traore will start complaining too?

hahahha......nice one, but i don't think so. If they wanted to complain they would have done so long time ago. I remember Vignal once complained too about not playing and look where is he...... (loan spell after loan spell).

by **The_Rock** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:58 pm

John Barnes' Granny wrote:I think Stu is right when he says players shouldn't critise managers (especially in public) but I do sympathise with Henchoz because in my opinion he is the best out and out defender at the club (better than Hyppia in defending although doesn't have Hyppia's aerial ability nor leadership skills).

dude granny,

I don't think any liverpool player has criticised houllier while playing under him (Camara & Westerveld only criticised houllier after they left the club). What most of them said was respective to their own postion ie... don't like sitting on the bench. They have the right to complain. It is their rice bowl. I mean even GH complained when the papers linked MON with liverpool. Why did he do that...? It is because his rice bowl could be affected. So is there anything wrong with Henchoz asking why he is left out.

a)He is 29-30. This is supposed to be his peak as a footballer (first blow).
b)Being dropped for a player not as half good as him (2nd blow).
c)Houllier not speaking to him about it (3rd blow).

No wonder he is speaking out. If my boss, did this to me, i would barge inside his room and question his motive..... no doubt.

For Info :
Thirry Henry has said he was too tired to play so many games (indirectly questioning Wenger). Was he benched ? Keane basically criticses his whole team that other week. Does he get sold ?

I am really disgusted how the situation is going from bad to worse at the club. I get the feeling hamann might be targeted next.

by **zackboxer** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 4:19 pm

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N144438040402-1502.htm

Houllier doesn't seem too happy with Henchoz !

by **The_Rock** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 4:56 pm

zackboxer wrote:http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N144438040402-1502.htm

Houllier doesn't seem too happy with Henchoz !

Well you can already smell it. Goodbye Henchoz.

by **JBG** » Fri Apr 02, 2004 7:55 pm

The RocK: read my post again and you'll see I dind't say anything about players criticising Houllier.

I just said that I agreed with Stu that players (in general) shouldn't criticise their managers in public.

I think the only time I can remember of any Liverpool player criticising the Houllier regime was when Baros criticised Phil Thompson when Houllier was out ill.

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