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Benny The Noon » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:34 pm wrote:Quite disappointed if we haven't got Siqueria. Seems a player definitely under the radar.

Cissohko will be a squad member - certainly allow Enrique to be rested

Liverpool had a £5m bid for Siqueira rejected. Granada upped their value of player to £12m, so deal was abbandoned

Redman in wales » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:15 pm wrote:

Benny The Noon » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:34 pm wrote:Quite disappointed if we haven't got Siqueria. Seems a player definitely under the radar.

Cissohko will be a squad member - certainly allow Enrique to be rested

Liverpool had a £5m bid for Siqueira rejected. Granada upped their value of player to £12m, so deal was abbandoned

£12mil !?!

When did that over inflated price appear ? No wonder they walked away.

Wonder what wages Cissohko is on

@GetFootballNews: Willian's agent confirms Manchester United are interested in signing him. (@BrazilStats) #MUFC



Bloody hope not - get this lad signed and sealed. Even Ayre can't f*ck up this signing

Redman in wales » Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:15 pm wrote:

Benny The Noon » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:34 pm wrote:Quite disappointed if we haven't got Siqueria. Seems a player definitely under the radar.

Cissohko will be a squad member - certainly allow Enrique to be rested

Liverpool had a £5m bid for Siqueira rejected. Granada upped their value of player to £12m, so deal was abbandoned

i think we have learnt our lesson when to walk away

Benny The Noon » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:26 pm wrote:@GetFootballNews: Willian's agent confirms Manchester United are interested in signing him. (@BrazilStats) #MUFC



Bloody hope not - get this lad signed and sealed. Even Ayre can't f*ck up this signing

Probably a ploy to get the price up

Dominic Campbell ‏@dom_campbell  on twitter - seems to know his stuff, but take it as you will


Don't pay too much attention to the United rumours re Willian. Liverpool moving very quickly with this one and talks are advanced.

The club know that missing out on yet another big name is going to be counter productive to our transfer ambitions. So yeah, quick moving. It would be naive to think nobody is going to show interest. Tottenham and United could, at any moment, turn serious in their interest.

This is pretty much the last chance for the club. Not many other targets open to a move. So negotiations have to be quick and smooth. And despite negotiations being advanced, it is no done deal as we have seen with other targets. But the mood seems very positive toward this being wrapped up. The question is, though, is he worth the money?

Willian is arguably better than Coutinho. He's quicker & more skillful, but with the same creative flair. Definitely better than Mkhitaryan. In this case I think we are paying a certain fee for the player, and that extra bit for the guarantee of getting it wrapped up.

Willian is like Coutinho, but with much more of a physical presence and (something many can't comprehend) more creativity. {retweet}

More skill and pace, too. Having both in the team would create so many chances.

You can see why we are going for Willian though. Coutinho is amazing. He is. But Willian is just as good if not better. Thus the fee.

Great post mate - spot on about Willian - there seems to be a bit too much concentration on his stats but ability wise i think he is ready to really explode and what better stage to do than with us in the prem !

We all thought the same about Carroll

Did we ?

I certainly didnt

Are we going to dismiss every player that might cost £30mil based on Carroll ?

Everyone knows he was never worth £35mil.

bunglemark2 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:38 pm wrote::bump

We all thought the same about Carroll

no I don't think so

If we don't actually bag at least one 'marquee' signing this summer I think Ayres could be in trouble.

He must be under pressure to deliver a real game changer for us when deals for Mkhtiryan and Costa
seemed close then died, and now its Willian.

Whilst smart deals for these young guys is encouraging, and decent work getting an off the radar player
like Aspas are welcome, its the big money transactions that will truly reshape us in the shorter term and
Ian Ayre seems to struggle with those I feel.

I really hope he can deliver and I will happy to take it back, but I dunno, hes not convincing to me.

Thanks once again BTN for your useful post. Keep 'em comin'...

bunglemark2 » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:27 am wrote:Thanks once again BTN for your useful post. Keep 'em comin'...

Give it a break champ.

This signing has all the hallmarks of a snap decision to be "seen" to sign a big name player, who ironically is not a big name.
It would make infinitely more sense to spend big on players who will stop the bloody ball getting near Mignolet. Totally misguided policy by the club. We won't score more than we will concede from corners, dead balls etc.
willian is the wrong focus right now.

Willian is about as a big a name as Suarez was when we signed him. At 30mill, he might be a bit overvalued but then again who isn't nowadays. We need a big name signing and while I too would have preferred it if we spent big on a defender, this -at least- is better than nothing since a player operating on the right flank is something we need after the Downing sale.

Generally speaking, defenders shouldn't cost that much and I think the fact we havent gone for a CB is more about the manager being content with what we have (for whatever reason) rather than the money not being there. The club's policy with transfers overall is a bit haphazard, but this is an exciting transfer imo and one we should be fighting to get sealed as soon as possible.