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I think Henderson a lot like Shelvey is a young developing talent. There will be times when their form drops and they in turn get dropped. Shelvey doesn't justify a start at the moment, Henderson does. I expect that to be the case for at least a couple of seasons until one or both manage to establish credibility to start regularly.

he has been improving of late and he does deserve the credit for it but he is far from being a player that we couldnt do with out.
also this is a player that was told only a couple of months ago that he could leave so what did rodgers not see in him then? but does now?.
atm though i think he is a good squad player to have but i doubt he can consistently deliver those types of performances every week. as dalglish said he was at the game on sunday and other than a few moments here and there he was missing and thats typical of him.
i dont think he should be sold and kept at least for next season where hopefully he can gain that consistency and maintain a presence in games for 90 minutes.
due to the fact that allen and shelvey have been struggling he should continue to be played ahead of them and should start against arsenal.

Henderson was bought as a 21 year old to join one of the biggest clubs from Sunderland for a big fee which is straight away going to put pressure on the lad. He then gets distributed on the right hand side of a midfield 4, A position in which he never played for sunderland the year before so why he was positioned there is behond me. Dalglish persists in starting him every game and on the right hand side after a few very bad games he has a very big condifence issue, A player needs to hit the ground running at anfield especially when you have been subject of a high transfer fee.

After Dalglish got the sack we see Adam get sold Carroll put out on loan and the only 2 survivors of Dalglish British flops were Downing and Young Henderson, With talks that Henderson was going to be used as a make weight to bring Dempsey to the club.

When Rodgers came in and brought in Allen from Swansea Henderson got some time on the bench. The lad since joining the club was forced out wide suffered a massive Confidence problem the new manager wanted to exchange him and see a ready made replacement brought in.

I have read a few interviews of him talkin about getting his head down, Staying after training Etc. Since then I have seen a massive Improvement in his game and now Rodgers persists with playing him in the middle it will give the guy a boost in confidence especilally the standing ovation he recieved at Anfield on Saturday along with his goal.

Hendersons Career looks as though its turning positive and starting to warrant the money we paid. At the moment based on performance wise He is currently 2nd in the cntral midfielders just Behind Stevie.

Agree 100%. It is extremely hard to come into a team as a 21 year old with the likes of legends like Stevie and start bossing things especially with a huge transfer fee around your neck. Last season wrecked his confidence and just now he is getting it back.

in todays echo it mentions that in training they have a competition based around shooting drills in which players pair up and try to be the first partnership to score 5 goals.
apparently the pairings are generally quite flexible apart from hendo and shelvey.
thats because hendo and shelvey are unbeaten so far this season in shooting practise and apparently the rest of the squad are desperate to knock them off their perch.

Henderson is just a prime example why I loath buying 20 year olds expekting them to make big impacts on the team.
No his fault and as I wrote before I was sure Hendo would turn into a decent footballer after a few years. But to carry those players for a few years
in the 1st team on the field is pure madness!
We are not Bolton or West Ham, we are LFC, meaning we should be able to get 1st team rdy players from the off and not be a developing team, because then you will end up in a vicious cycle always developing players.
Good enough players doesn't need fifty years to adapt.
Torres didn't, but you have Micchu as a perfect example. He was cheap, foreign, never played in england before and got 10 goals in no time. You have some players Newcastle bought last year.
I want close to fully developed players(24+) if they are to be a meaningful contributor to the 1st team instead of tearing my hair of for a couple of year first, which will make the whole team suffer a waste those years.

i thought he was our MoM tonight, talk about putting a shift in.
great goal as well

A game of ups and downs from him IMO. It's still obvious that he's still very inexperienced, but has improved greatly in the past 2 months. Maybe not MOTM but still a great performance with an assist and a goal (who knew he had the balls to try something like that).

Worked really hard tonight and was one of our star men. Well played Hendo

Ola Mr Benitez » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:31 pm wrote:Worked really hard tonight and was one of our star men. Well played Hendo

Agreed
Much better and balls growing bigger by the day

Everything from him was great until the crucial part - his final ball - it was awful. If he is going to continue to be the higher of the three he needs to be creative and make better use of the ball.

Benny The Noon » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:27 pm wrote:Everything from him was great until the crucial part - his final ball - it was awful. If he is going to continue to be the higher of the three he needs to be creative and make better use of the ball.

I cant believe im saying this but agree with Benny  Henderson put a lot of work in tonight and did well on the goals but his general distribution was poor throughout and his final ball was shocking on several promising counter attacks. Improvements are clearly being made but he lacks the quality to ever be a top player IMO, lots of stamina and hard work but what does it matter if you cant find your team mates with routine passes

Fowler_E7 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:17 am wrote:

Benny The Noon » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:27 pm wrote:Everything from him was great until the crucial part - his final ball - it was awful. If he is going to continue to be the higher of the three he needs to be creative and make better use of the ball.

I cant believe im saying this but agree with Benny  Henderson put a lot of work in tonight and did well on the goals but his general distribution was poor throughout and his final ball was shocking on several promising counter attacks. Improvements are clearly being made but he lacks the quality to ever be a top player IMO, lots of stamina and hard work but what does it matter if you cant find your team mates with routine passes

Disagree totally. He can pass well, and was passing just fine except for making a few errors with the final passes.

kartiek » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:12 am wrote:

Fowler_E7 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:17 am wrote:

Benny The Noon » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:27 pm wrote:Everything from him was great until the crucial part - his final ball - it was awful. If he is going to continue to be the higher of the three he needs to be creative and make better use of the ball.

I cant believe im saying this but agree with Benny  Henderson put a lot of work in tonight and did well on the goals but his general distribution was poor throughout and his final ball was shocking on several promising counter attacks. Improvements are clearly being made but he lacks the quality to ever be a top player IMO, lots of stamina and hard work but what does it matter if you cant find your team mates with routine passes

Disagree totally. He can pass well, and was passing just fine except for making a few errors with the final passes.

he makes good 5-10 yard passes but lacks vision and creativity.
he did play well tonight and was rewarded with a goal but his final ball needs working on big time. maybe its still a confidence thing with him but he looks to give it away as soon as he gets it. in those tight situations he needs to turn and run with it instead of squaring it back to where it came from.
improving yes but hopefully he's far from the finished article

Penguins » Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:18 am wrote:Henderson is just a prime example why I loath buying 20 year olds expekting them to make big impacts on the team.
No his fault and as I wrote before I was sure Hendo would turn into a decent footballer after a few years. But to carry those players for a few years
in the 1st team on the field is pure madness!
We are not Bolton or West Ham, we are LFC, meaning we should be able to get 1st team rdy players from the off and not be a developing team, because then you will end up in a vicious cycle always developing players.
Good enough players doesn't need fifty years to adapt.
Torres didn't, but you have Micchu as a perfect example. He was cheap, foreign, never played in england before and got 10 goals in no time. You have some players Newcastle bought last year.
I want close to fully developed players(24+) if they are to be a meaningful contributor to the 1st team instead of tearing my hair of for a couple of year first, which will make the whole team suffer a waste those years.

Good post mate.

As an aside, people still use Henderson's lack of confidence as an excuse. Look at my signature photo, Keegan pumped up having scored against Citeh in 1977, Phil Neal totally relaxed, Emlyn strolling over looking totally in control (it was a 1-0 hard fought victory, not a walk over). This is the maturity we are missing at the moment. No point having 7x 20 year old Keegan's with self doubts. We need 'special' players with natural confidence and old enough to assert themselves - it is unavoidable we need half a team of younger players and half a team of Emlyn's, Kenny's and yer odd Souness and Ray Kennedy's.   (or Sami, Masher, Alonso and Torres in more recent times.)   I never believed it would be so difficult to replace players we gave away so easily.