burjennio » Wed May 16, 2012 5:32 pm wrote:Thommo's perm » Wed May 16, 2012 5:29 pm wrote:burjennio » Wed May 16, 2012 5:17 pm wrote:You misread my point Thommo, what I meant was that Klopp was a virtual unknown when he took over at Dortmund, a MASSIVE club especially in Germany and he has taken them to two league titles in a row and just trounced Champions League finalists Bayern Munich 5-2 in the cup final.
It takes more than experience is all Im saying, some men are just destined for greatness, but it often takes a large slice of luck and an opportunity for them to get there.
Mate we are not in Germany. Why would Klopp leave to start all over again here?
We have been down the road of sacking a successful manager and bringing in someone who was accused of "not getting us" because, despite being recognised as a good international coach, he was too small minded.
We are now in that position again where one of our most successful managers (not this season) has been fu'cked off to be replaced by ?
We dont have the time or patience for building a great team, the owners have seen to that. We need a proven, guaranteed, experienced WINNER because the fans demand it. The owners have painted themselves into a corner and the only way out it to bring in a massive name who will give them, and us what we want.
Jesus Thommo IM NOT SAYING WE SHOULD SIGN KLOPP!! I just pointed out that he had very little experience prior to taking the Dortmund job but turned them into a top, top side.
burjennio » Wed May 16, 2012 5:32 pm wrote:Thommo's perm » Wed May 16, 2012 5:29 pm wrote:burjennio » Wed May 16, 2012 5:17 pm wrote:You misread my point Thommo, what I meant was that Klopp was a virtual unknown when he took over at Dortmund, a MASSIVE club especially in Germany and he has taken them to two league titles in a row and just trounced Champions League finalists Bayern Munich 5-2 in the cup final.
It takes more than experience is all Im saying, some men are just destined for greatness, but it often takes a large slice of luck and an opportunity for them to get there.
Mate we are not in Germany. Why would Klopp leave to start all over again here?
We have been down the road of sacking a successful manager and bringing in someone who was accused of "not getting us" because, despite being recognised as a good international coach, he was too small minded.
We are now in that position again where one of our most successful managers (not this season) has been fu'cked off to be replaced by ?
We dont have the time or patience for building a great team, the owners have seen to that. We need a proven, guaranteed, experienced WINNER because the fans demand it. The owners have painted themselves into a corner and the only way out it to bring in a massive name who will give them, and us what we want.
Jesus Thommo IM NOT SAYING WE SHOULD SIGN KLOPP!! I just pointed out that he had very little experience prior to taking the Dortmund job but turned them into a top, top side.
D___C » Wed May 16, 2012 5:59 pm wrote:Bielsa at Athletic Bilbao would be my pick.. and hopefully take one or two players with him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa
Great motivator, great tactician, great football.
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed May 16, 2012 5:22 pm wrote:metalhead » Wed May 16, 2012 5:00 pm wrote:ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed May 16, 2012 4:55 pm wrote:this isnt the time to gamble on unknown quantities, managing liverpool is a world away from managing a wigan or norwich, get someone back who has handled the pressure for 6 years.
benitez has won the spanish title twice, the uefa cup, the champions league, the f.a cup, the world club championship and the italian cup.
rafael benitez was a miracle worker, by rights we didnt have the money to compete with the chelsea`s, uniteds, barcelona`s and real madrids but rafa had us trading blows with those clubs toe to toe, every f**ker in europe dreaded drawing liverpool in the CL draw, mourinho had the riches of solomon backing him but twice rafa sent him packing in CL semi finals.
rafa didnt want billions to compete with the other big sides, he didnt even need parity, if they had more money that wasnt a problem, but to expect him to compete with hicks and gillette sending us backwards was a bridge too far for even him.
under rafa we beat barcelona, real madrid, inter milan, ac milan, juventus, man united, chelsea (when they were like man city)......infact it`s easier to list who we didnt beat. get him back.
mate, FSG listened to us and got Kenny back, look what happened, will they listen to us again? no, they will go for someone younger and their choice
if they want to gamble it`s up to them, the wrong manager now though could really set us back years.
plus benitez is a bit diffent to kenny, it was only 5 years ago he had us in our second CL final.
NorfolkRed » Wed May 16, 2012 5:38 pm wrote:hasnt Rafa said in the past that he'd love to come back?
metalhead » Wed May 16, 2012 5:45 pm wrote:We are linked with AVB now. I'm not so sure about AVB, looks tactical astute but lacks proper man management.
Only candidate is Pepe Guardiola, but he is taking a year off
RichardLFC1 » Wed May 16, 2012 6:47 pm wrote:NorfolkRed » Wed May 16, 2012 5:38 pm wrote:hasnt Rafa said in the past that he'd love to come back?
http://sports.mobile.msn.com/en-us/socc ... 0&pg1=1701
Thommo's perm » Wed May 16, 2012 5:48 pm wrote:metalhead » Wed May 16, 2012 5:45 pm wrote:We are linked with AVB now. I'm not so sure about AVB, looks tactical astute but lacks proper man management.
Only candidate is Pepe Guardiola, but he is taking a year off
AVB has just been unceremoniously booted out of a club where none of the players respected him because they were a bunch or arrogant, overhyped chav c*nts
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