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by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:25 pm

I don't care how they adjudicate Dalglish's performance over the season ,the biggest common denominator in all this still remains the fans .
I also believe having already bore witness to the fans furious backlash against Hodgson ,they can ill afford such an occurrence happening
once more.

by **woof woof !** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:39 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:01 pm wrote:Its patently obvious (albeit from those who have their respective fingers lodged in their ears ) that Dalglish is here for the long term ,John Henry is a
shrewd and tactical man and his meetings with SOS to gauge their input when he first succeeded the two cretins spoke volumes about the man's
meticulous preparations for the new season .

John Henry and his investors will not be happy bunnies ,Liverpool were supposed to glide along like a well oiled machine this season ,but the Luis Suarez
fiasco and the circus that ensued was not something they could have planned for .

If Kenny delivers them the FA cup then it will provide valid proof that the team is capable of sustaining a challenge for trophies next season ,and with a
few tweaks ,and the return of a fully fit squad and ( LUCAS) plus some quality additions ,maybe we can return to playing the sweet football
we played earlier in the season only this time not be haunted by our unparalleled profligacy in front of goal .

To summarise ,FSG will not risk alienating the paying fans that are the lifesblood of this great club ,and to show a lack of faith in Dalglish
would be doing precisely that ..... Kenneth Dalglish has a point to prove and he's not about to slink off like some shithouse rat before
that's accomplished .

"LUCAS plus some quality additions"

Simplistic

As for

"FSG will not risk alienating the paying fans that are the lifesblood of this great club ,and to show a lack of faith in Dalglish
would be doing precisely that

I think FSG last year showed their faith and the smarts to not alienate the fans by putting Kenny in charge with a sizeable "warchest" as a welcome. A year on, given the one step forward two steps back performances from the "team" I think they and us fans are at least entitled to question what the f'uck has gone wrong ! and more importantly what is Kenny going to do about it.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:40 pm

FSG will listen to the fans, rather than the decidedly more malleable media driven lambs who imbibe ,and echo every derogatory statement delivered
with gleeful haste by the British press .

by **7_Kewell** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:47 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:40 pm wrote:FSG will listen to the fans, rather than the decidedly more malleable media driven lambs who imbibe ,and echo every derogatory statement delivered
with gleeful haste by the British press .

The eclectic, British media will have no influence on what FSG do, however; I think you’ll be disappointed if you think they’re going to subscribe to the bouts of nostalgia that many, like yourself, confuse with progress

by **spiceboys2014** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:50 pm

I think this original post is tosh, and is probably not true, a waste of words Reg.

Fenway, are not going to publish their business and internal matters or internal matters to the public, are they?

You are supposed to put the tabloid newspapers that wrap your fish and chips, in the bin Reg

not read it.
Is it keeping u up at night,mate.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:53 pm

@Woof quote

I think FSG last year showed their faith and the smarts to not alienate the fans by putting Kenny in charge with a sizeable "warchest" as a welcome. A year on, given the one step forward two steps back performances from the "team" I think they and us fans are at least entitled to question what the f'uck has gone wrong ! and more importantly what is Kenny going to do about it.

I agree we need answers from the manager ,but I still think FSG would be seriously underestimating the fans if they got rid mate .I mean Dalglish has been
shamelessly fucking pilloried in the media since the Suarez affair ,and the so called fans should stop towing the media party line and stop churning
out similar vitriol and do what we always do in a crisis and rally around the manager and the club .

by **woof woof !** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:54 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:40 pm wrote:FSG will listen to the fans, rather than the decidedly more malleable media driven lambs who imbibe ,and echo every derogatory statement delivered
with gleeful haste by the British press .

Sick and f'ucking tired of this "the whole worlds against us" routine. We've been sh'it and Kenny's "interviews" have alienated media, WTF did you expect their reaction to be ?

by **RedAnt** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:55 pm

To put it in perspective, Kenny has had one season to turn around a rather awful Liverpool team. We've brought in some new players and outwardly these guys appear to be failures. But they too are new to our club and need time to gel and click and get to know eachother. The teams above us are mostly teams that are established and used to playing together. Our own team has showed great potential for me. Results and performances have been atrocious in the last few weeks, and over the season we've been very poor. But it's still season one in the great rebuilding project. To have one cup in the bag and the possibility of another added to it isn't a bad return at all when one considers just how bad we were before Kenny arrived. So ok, things haven't worked out this season, but I repeat...it's only season one. I'm positive we will see a much better team next season. I don't think we need to get rid of any of our current players. A few additions and we'll be on our way. Mark my words :nod

by **Boxscarf** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:56 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:25 pm wrote:I don't care how they adjudicate Dalglish's performance over the season ,the biggest common denominator in all this still remains the fans .
I also believe having already bore witness to the fans furious backlash against Hodgson ,they can ill afford such an occurrence happening
once more.

Fans should have no say in boardroom or business decisions of the club, John W Henry and the rest of FSG are more than capable of making those decisions.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:58 pm

7_Kewell » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:47 pm wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:40 pm wrote:FSG will listen to the fans, rather than the decidedly more malleable media driven lambs who imbibe ,and echo every derogatory statement delivered
with gleeful haste by the British press .

The eclectic, British media will have no influence on what FSG do, however; I think you’ll be disappointed if you think they’re going to subscribe to the bouts of nostalgia that many, like yourself, confuse with progress

I would strongly suspect that its your good self that will be left deflated lad ,because Dalglish is going nowhere :eyebrow

by **Boxscarf** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:59 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:58 pm wrote:
I would strongly suspect that its your good self that will be left deflated lad ,because Dalglish is going nowhere

We'll find out one way or another in the summer. It wouldn't surprise me if he stays and it would surprise me if he's sacked.

by **metalhead** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:01 pm

It all depends from now till the end of the season

Let's hope we wi the FA cup

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:03 pm

woof woof ! » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:54 pm wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:40 pm wrote:FSG will listen to the fans, rather than the decidedly more malleable media driven lambs who imbibe ,and echo every derogatory statement delivered
with gleeful haste by the British press .

Sick and f'ucking tired of this "the whole worlds against us" routine. We've been sh'it and Kenny's "interviews" have alienated media, WTF did you expect their reaction to be ?

I think the point your missing is I couldnt give a flying fuck about the media's reaction, its the fucking blurts who spout the same tired
shite instead of backing the club thats gave them possibly the greatest nights in their sad little fucking lives that gall me .

by **7_Kewell** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:05 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:58 pm wrote:
7_Kewell » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:47 pm wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:40 pm wrote:FSG will listen to the fans, rather than the decidedly more malleable media driven lambs who imbibe ,and echo every derogatory statement delivered
with gleeful haste by the British press .

The eclectic, British media will have no influence on what FSG do, however; I think you’ll be disappointed if you think they’re going to subscribe to the bouts of nostalgia that many, like yourself, confuse with progress

We’ll have to wait and see.

But as Woof said, the false belief that the entire world is against us is nonsense, for the most part. Kenny's aggressive stance with the media has led to him being isolated, which is fine if you’re winning titles, but not so when you’re setting new records for being cr@p.
There's no secret agenda, just a few editors and tv/radio producers sick of Kenny's attitude.

by **Boxscarf** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:07 pm

metalhead » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:01 pm wrote:It all depends from now till the end of the season

Let's hope we wi the FA cup

If Dalglish wins the FA Cup, that's a cup double right there, FSG will no doubt find it hard to justify sacking a manager who has won two trophies in one season, but I suppose it will come down to whether or not they'll give him more money to spend in the summer transfer window. Given Kenny's track record so far, you couldn't blame FSG for having apprehensions about giving Dalglish anymore money to spend on players.

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