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by **andy_g** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:16 pm

we've got excellent owners who have put their hands deep in their pockets in an effort to revitalise the club and gave us the manager we wanted. and some of you are hoping they sell up now because they maybe didn't intervene quick enough. don't you remember the fecking enormous barrel of shít we were in with the last lot? beggar's belief, it really does.

by **yckatbjywtbiastkamb** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:40 pm

andy_g wrote:we've got excellent owners who have put their hands deep in their pockets in an effort to revitalise the club and gave us the manager we wanted. and some of you are hoping they sell up now because they maybe didn't intervene quick enough. don't you remember the fecking enormous barrel of shít we were in with the last lot? beggar's belief, it really does.

of course they are better than h+g but they are here for the same reason - to make money
do you think all the american owners that are suddenly in the prem are over here because they are huge footy fans?

by **mart** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:48 pm

yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:of course they are better than h+g but they are here for the same reason - to make money
do you think all the american owners that are suddenly in the prem are over here because they are huge footy fans?

Football is a business.

Yes ofcourse the owners want to make money from the club. There are only a few owners that keep the club like some sort of trophy or toy they can play with.

by **andy_g** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:53 pm

yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:
andy_g wrote:we've got excellent owners who have put their hands deep in their pockets in an effort to revitalise the club and gave us the manager we wanted. and some of you are hoping they sell up now because they maybe didn't intervene quick enough. don't you remember the fecking enormous barrel of shít we were in with the last lot? beggar's belief, it really does.

of course they are better than h+g but they are here for the same reason - to make money
do you think all the american owners that are suddenly in the prem are over here because they are huge footy fans?

of course i don't. but it seems bizarre to me that people are so nonchalant about whether they stay with us or not after the last lot almost finished the club completely. seems like they forgot how lucky we were to get FSG.

by **metalhead** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:00 pm

andy_g wrote:we've got excellent owners who have put their hands deep in their pockets in an effort to revitalise the club and gave us the manager we wanted. and some of you are hoping they sell up now because they maybe didn't intervene quick enough. don't you remember the fecking enormous barrel of shít we were in with the last lot? beggar's belief, it really does.

Good point, some people are going OTT on slagging off the owners, but I cannot hide the fact that I'm dissapointed in them for not making it clear from day one their stance on the issue. They should have taken control of such sensitive issue from the start

by **tubby** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:20 pm

They hung Kenny out to dry on this on MH. He is coming across as the bad guy for standing by his player. He shouldn't have to be apologising for anything let alone backing his player.

That Shreeves is a kunt.

by **redtrader74** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:22 pm

metalhead wrote:
andy_g wrote:we've got excellent owners who have put their hands deep in their pockets in an effort to revitalise the club and gave us the manager we wanted. and some of you are hoping they sell up now because they maybe didn't intervene quick enough. don't you remember the fecking enormous barrel of shít we were in with the last lot? beggar's belief, it really does.

Good point, some people are going OTT on slagging off the owners, but I cannot hide the fact that I'm dissapointed in them for not making it clear from day one their stance on the issue. They should have taken control of such sensitive issue from the start

Agree with that. If we as a club felt that Luis was being misrepresented, and that his actions were cultural nuances rather than racism we should have been far more forthright from the outset. Ian ayre should have been behind the scenes dealing with the issue and speaking to the FA. The saddest thing is that a statement along the lines of ' Luis has used terminology that is common in his native Uruguay, and it has been made clear to him that in the Britain it is unacceptable. He understands his responsibilities and will refrain from its use, and we apologie for any distress caused to the kunt' would probably have been enough. Hence the need fo strong leadership.

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:35 pm

redtrader74 wrote:
metalhead wrote:
andy_g wrote:we've got excellent owners who have put their hands deep in their pockets in an effort to revitalise the club and gave us the manager we wanted. and some of you are hoping they sell up now because they maybe didn't intervene quick enough. don't you remember the fecking enormous barrel of shít we were in with the last lot? beggar's belief, it really does.

Good point, some people are going OTT on slagging off the owners, but I cannot hide the fact that I'm dissapointed in them for not making it clear from day one their stance on the issue. They should have taken control of such sensitive issue from the start

Agree with that. If we as a club felt that Luis was being misrepresented, and that his actions were cultural nuances rather than racism we should have been far more forthright from the outset. Ian ayre should have been behind the scenes dealing with the issue and speaking to the FA. The saddest thing is that a statement along the lines of ' Luis has used terminology that is common in his native Uruguay, and it has been made clear to him that in the Britain it is unacceptable. He understands his responsibilities and will refrain from its use, and we apologie for any distress caused to the kunt' would probably have been enough. Hence the need fo strong leadership.

well said mate.

by **devaney** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:51 pm

metalhead wrote:
andy_g wrote:we've got excellent owners who have put their hands deep in their pockets in an effort to revitalise the club and gave us the manager we wanted. and some of you are hoping they sell up now because they maybe didn't intervene quick enough. don't you remember the fecking enormous barrel of shít we were in with the last lot? beggar's belief, it really does.

Good point, some people are going OTT on slagging off the owners, but I cannot hide the fact that I'm dissapointed in them for not making it clear from day one their stance on the issue. They should have taken control of such sensitive issue from the start

They have spent a net sum of just over £35m in the transfer market and bought the club for £300m which was the absolute bottom book value. I agree that they seem like decent people but let's not get carried away with how deep they have put their hands in their pockets.

by **yckatbjywtbiastkamb** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:37 pm

redtrader74 wrote:
metalhead wrote:
andy_g wrote:we've got excellent owners who have put their hands deep in their pockets in an effort to revitalise the club and gave us the manager we wanted. and some of you are hoping they sell up now because they maybe didn't intervene quick enough. don't you remember the fecking enormous barrel of shít we were in with the last lot? beggar's belief, it really does.

Good point, some people are going OTT on slagging off the owners, but I cannot hide the fact that I'm dissapointed in them for not making it clear from day one their stance on the issue. They should have taken control of such sensitive issue from the start

Agree with that. If we as a club felt that Luis was being misrepresented, and that his actions were cultural nuances rather than racism we should have been far more forthright from the outset. Ian ayre should have been behind the scenes dealing with the issue and speaking to the FA. The saddest thing is that a statement along the lines of ' Luis has used terminology that is common in his native Uruguay, and it has been made clear to him that in the Britain it is unacceptable. He understands his responsibilities and will refrain from its use, and we apologie for any distress caused to the kunt' would probably have been enough. Hence the need fo strong leadership.

thats my point though, remember at the beginning when the club released that strongly worded beligerent statement backing suarez to the hilt that prompted a backlash from the media, who do you think wrote that and okay`d it? suarez? dalglish?
on an issue as serious as this i think they had to get clearance from the top, it looks to me that as soon as the sponsors etc have started having concerns about the situation suarez and kenny are being hung out to dry when i reckon everyone at the club could have handled it better.
instead of releasing that statement the senior management should have said lets play the situation down here.
they`ve talked tough at first to help stir the hornets nest and then done a pontius pilate when the media storm goes crazy.
kenny and suarez are being hung out to dry.

by **tubby** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:47 pm

devaney wrote:
metalhead wrote:
andy_g wrote:we've got excellent owners who have put their hands deep in their pockets in an effort to revitalise the club and gave us the manager we wanted. and some of you are hoping they sell up now because they maybe didn't intervene quick enough. don't you remember the fecking enormous barrel of shít we were in with the last lot? beggar's belief, it really does.

Good point, some people are going OTT on slagging off the owners, but I cannot hide the fact that I'm dissapointed in them for not making it clear from day one their stance on the issue. They should have taken control of such sensitive issue from the start

They have spent a net sum of just over £35m in the transfer market and bought the club for £300m which was the absolute bottom book value. I agree that they seem like decent people but let's not get carried away with how deep they have put their hands in their pockets.

Correct. People are forgetting we sold a player for 50Mil. And we didn't even buy anyone in the Jan window.

Not to mention still no movement on the new stadium.

by **yellsub66** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:14 pm

eds wrote:
RUSHIE#9 wrote:For an organisation the size of Liverpool FC it shouldn't need the owners having to get on the phone from Boston, the hierarchy at Anfield should have gotten this sorted themselves.

After the continual interfering from H&G in their spell I'm happy for FSG to take a back seat like they have been doing and letting the club operate as it's own entity. All this episode has shown is that the people at Anfield don't appear to be skilled enough in PR and come the summer (after everything has hopefully died down a bit) bring in a skilled PR director to make sure this debacle never happens again.

This has nothing to do with PR Rushie.

The owners should have appealed this and taken it to the highest courts of England, free speech literally on trail. We would have won hands down, based on the fact that manure and Evra HAD no real evidence to back the accusations levelled at Suarez.

To add insult they have then demanded Suarez and Kenny apologise to the very club that condoned Evra's racist comments directed at Suarez which kicked off this whole mess.

This is the lowest I have ever felt as a supporter, the owners and the entire management of this club are a f**kin disgrace. You stand by your players and manager you don't hang them out to dry for the whole world to laugh at them.

This is exactly how I feel!!

We have been made to look like a bunch of fools! Do you think Chelsea, Man City or Arsenal would have taken the f**ckin s**t that we have from Utd??

Something is going on behind the scenes here..deep and utter corruption in the premier league and the FA.

We should have taken this to the law courts yet we stupidly accepted an 8 game ban. We are so 'soft' it is unreal.

Sad, sad days for the club :no

by **dundreamin** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:22 pm

Some people are unreal. Do they remember the g&h years then FSG pulled us out of real deep S.HIT got rid of a puppet manager, brought back kenny and now some having a dig at FSG. FFS get real wake up they rescued us. Rant over

by **Thommo's perm** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:33 pm

They are foreign and left it because they believed that KK and Ayre knew what they were doing. Its obvious that they didnt.
That said, it is not the big disaster that the scumbag press and media are making out. Dont forget they need hysterical headlines to fill the boring sh'it they pump out 24/7. This will die away and we must get back to winning ways asap
That will solve all our problems

by **yellsub66** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:39 pm

dundreamin wrote:Some people are unreal. Do they remember the g&h years then FSG pulled us out of real deep S.HIT got rid of a puppet manager, brought back kenny and now some having a dig at FSG. FFS get real wake up they rescued us. Rant over

So Dundreamin...are you happy being a Liverpool fan at the moment?
We have been shat all over by manure and their evil dictator, vilified by the press and stitched up by the FA!!

We are a 'business' as well as a football club. Do you feel that our owners have handled this whole saga well?

I for one feel they have been completely useless and a 'business competitor' has destroyed the reputation of their 'business'!!

Does this mean they are worthy custodians of the club and 'the business' or that they have failed on all fronts with this issue, in the process putting the clubs greatest ever servant in a position of total humiliation. I wouldn't blame Kenny if he walked out!

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