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by **7_Kewell** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:47 am

Well there’s no denying that our new owners are putting their money where their mouths are.

Over the last 6 months we’ve spent over 75 million....and (according to the press) we’re still in the hunt for a left back and central defender. So that figure could break the 100 million mark easily....

Are we over spending? Are the players we’re signing worth the cash we’re paying?

Personally i think we’re are...maybe it’s our new policy of buying home grown or the fact the other clubs know we’re looking to improve, but we’re defiantly spending more than we should. Don’t get me wrong, i think our new players are improving the squad and we’ll be challenging....I just fear the silly season is descending upon Anfield and we're getting ripped off on a massive level on our transfers

by **metalhead** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:56 am

I'm delighted, finally we are spending and not worrying about selling to buy or repaying our debts

by **woof woof !** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:56 am

For the money spent John Barnes was saying on LFCTV earlier today that we may have got better quality players abroad but we're looking to get players with "spirit" as well as skill.

by **Benny The Noon** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:56 am

If we hadn't spent a money and sold players to buy players people would be complaining . The owners are putting their hands in their pocket - all players are overpriced - it's nothing new , the difference is we are actually involved in the buying for once and not looking on in envy as other clubs spend 50 mil plus on players .

If we get back into the CL ( I think we will ) and if we close the gap and get in the mix ( I think we will ) then every single penny spent is worth it .

The money being spent is coming from the owners , it's not being put on as debt , it's not finance - it's hard cash .

We have bought established prem players , we have bought potential and we have bought experience .

The main question to ask yourself is - have we improved as a squad .

The answer for me is yes . Ignore the price tags , that's the owners responsibilty .

The manager has asked for players and he is getting them .

Finally we are having a positive transfer window , no more 6-9 million Carlos Kickabouts from abroad . No more selling a top player to buy other players .

If people are going to just focus on the prices and complain about over paying then it's a sure sign they will never be happy unless we are buying , Messi , Augero or Iniesta ( even then I expect there would be complaints )

by **Greavesie** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:01 pm

£75m?

?

anyways that issue aside I'm just going to echo MH's sentiments and say its nice to be investing in the squad and not worrying about the accounts. It was badly needed this summer, still more areas to address but it's going to be a case of years I reckon

by **Benny The Noon** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:05 pm

Doni - free
Henderson - 16.5 mil ( may rise to 20 )
Adam - 6.5/7.5 mil ( may rise to 9)
Downing - 18.5 mil ( may rise to 20 )

My maths make that 42 mil ish spend maybe rising to 49 mil - still nowhere near 75 mil ?!?!

by **7_Kewell** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:05 pm

woof woof ! wrote:For the money spent John Barnes was saying on LFCTV earlier today that we may have got better quality players abroad but we're looking to get players with "spirit" as well as skill.

i've noticed that...and, putting my gripes about cost to one side, it reminds me of the 80s when we signed the likes of Barnes, Beardsley and Rush.

I have confidence in Kenny...i just fear we're getting our pants pulled down on every deal

by **Greavesie** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:07 pm

My maths make that 42 mil ish spend maybe rising to 49 mil - still nowhere near 75 mil ?!?!

not just me then, I thought I went mad and was missing something

by **7_Kewell** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:08 pm

Greavesie wrote:£75m? ?

anyways that issue aside I'm just going to echo MH's sentiments and say its nice to be investing in the squad and not worrying about the accounts. It was badly needed this summer, still more areas to address but it's going to be a case of years I reckon

sorry, i've included our winter signings in that. will adjust first post :lookaround

by **Benny The Noon** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:09 pm

I think the mancs have even spent more than us but you don't hear the negative from the press about their spend

by **Benny The Noon** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:10 pm

If you include our winter signings then we have spent close to a 100 mil

by **7_Kewell** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:11 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:I think the mancs have even spent more than us but you don't hear the negative from the press about their spend

because they're successful and Slur Alex has a record of making the right calls in the transfer market...pains me to say it, but 'tis the reason they're not the focus of the media

by **Kenny Kan** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:12 pm

Firstly, I'd like to take my proverbial hat off to our owners. A year ago who would have thought Liverpool could have been flexing their muscles in the transfer market? These new owners have done EVERYTHING right so far and we've been able to do things 'the Liverpool way', from keeping the press guessing our next transfer to reviving the fan's hopes and dreams again.

I wouldn't say we are overspending our squad needed significant investment - that was as plain as the nose on your face. Are the players we're signing worth the cash? As of yet nobody knows the answer but I'm sure people are able to make educated guesses whether they are or not. The other day another poster and I had a ''too & throw'' over the signing of Charlie Adam. FWIW I think he has represented good value for money over our other signings. I honestly don't know too much about Henderson to be honest, most neutrals think we've done a 'Citeh' with him and paid over the odds, others like Rawk-ites believe he's the best thing since sliced watermelon. I don't know, I can't say but it is a lot of money and we've been here before with Keane and Aqulliani - albeit not with Kenny. We've also bought some gems like Torres and Suarez at similar prices so it swings in roundabouts. Downing, personally I'm not 'over the moon' about, always remember him at Boro being a very ordinary and limited player - even when there was all the hype about him.

I did read an article the other day re Kenny and his signings at LFC, Blackburn and Newcastle and it highlighted that when Kenny [generally speaking] brought British talent he got fantastic results. I think Ripley and Wilcox at Blackburn [not sure if he bought them in] got so much out of them along with Shearer and Sutton. We all know what he achieved at Liverpool in the 80's. At Newcastle he brought a mixture of foreign and British talent and got mixed results from it.

So Kenny has a good track record getting the best out of British.Also along with the FIFA rules being implemented and our owner's philosophy in recruiting young talent I think it plays into Kenny's hands and to his strengths. If there is one person that can turn players like Downing and Henderson from average and potential (respectively) to important and dependable players Kenny Kan.

by **Benny The Noon** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:14 pm

Yes but no focus on the fact they spent 18 mil on a cb yet already have 4 established CB's , Spent 17 mil on a wide player yet already have 50 mil worth of wide players at the club and a very youg gk for a lot of money - they have spent money buy only one signing has addresses their probs and even he is a massive risk .

by **7_Kewell** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:14 pm

Kenny Kan wrote:Firstly, I'd like to take my proverbial hat off to our owners. A year ago who would have thought Liverpool could have been flexing their muscles in the transfer market? These new owners have done EVERYTHING right so far and we've been able to do things 'the Liverpool way', from keeping the press guessing our next transfer to reviving the fan's hopes and dreams again.

I wouldn't say we are overspending our squad needed significant investment - that was as plain as the nose on your face. Are the players we're signing worth the cash? As of yet nobody knows the answer but I'm sure people are able to make educated guesses whether they are or not. The other day another poster and I had a ''too & throw'' over the signing of Charlie Adam. FWIW I think he has represented good value for money over our other signings. I honestly don't know too much about Henderson to be honest, most neutrals think we've done a 'Citeh' with him and paid over the odds, others like Rawk-ites believe he's the best thing since sliced watermelon. I don't know, I can't say but it is a lot of money and we've been here before with Keane and Aqulliani - albeit not with Kenny. We've also bought some gems like Torres and Suarez at similar prices so it swings in roundabouts. Downing, personally I'm not 'over the moon' about always remember him a Boro being a very ordinary and limited player - even when there was all the hype about him.

I did read an article the other day re Kenny and his signings at LFC, Blackburn and Newcastle and it highlighted that when Kenny generally speaking brought British talent he got fantastic results. I think Ripley and Wilcox at Blackburn (not sure if he bought them in) got so much out of them along with Shearer and Sutton. We all know what he achieved at Liverpool in the 80's. At Newcastle he brought a mixture of foreign and British talent and got mixed results from it.

So Kenny has a good track record getting the best out of British.Also along with the FIFA rules being implemented and our owner's philosophy in recruiting young talent I think it plays into Kenny's hands and to his strengths. If there is one person that can turn players like Downing and Henderson from average and potential (respectively) to important and dependable players Kenny Kan.

good post...like what you did at the end there

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