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by **maypaxvobiscum** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:45 am

Roger Red Hat wrote:
SouthCoastShankly wrote:Stat of the day -

World's richest man, Carlos Slim ($74Bn), owns 7% of NYT, which owns 17% of FSG, which owns LFC. Technically he has 1.2% of LFC.

well he needs to dip into his pocket and toss £50m in Kenny's direction.

oh please. what's 50million today? we could only afford Gareth Bale with that kinda money. especially when they have a raving lunatic as their manager who hikes up the price of his players admirably

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:32 am

maypaxvobiscum wrote:
Roger Red Hat wrote:
SouthCoastShankly wrote:Stat of the day -

World's richest man, Carlos Slim ($74Bn), owns 7% of NYT, which owns 17% of FSG, which owns LFC. Technically he has 1.2% of LFC.

well he needs to dip into his pocket and toss £50m in Kenny's direction.

oh please. what's 50million today? we could only afford Gareth Bale with that kinda money. especially when they have a raving lunatic as their manager who hikes up the price of his players admirably

If they do stump any cash for investment up, they need to do it soon. Now the financial fair play rules are starting to take effect, we can only overspend by £65m in total up to 2013.

After then its pure break even accounts only who will avoid sanctions.

by **PabloMedina28** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:06 pm

SouthCoastShankly wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:
Roger Red Hat wrote:
SouthCoastShankly wrote:Stat of the day -

World's richest man, Carlos Slim ($74Bn), owns 7% of NYT, which owns 17% of FSG, which owns LFC. Technically he has 1.2% of LFC.

well he needs to dip into his pocket and toss £50m in Kenny's direction.

oh please. what's 50million today? we could only afford Gareth Bale with that kinda money. especially when they have a raving lunatic as their manager who hikes up the price of his players admirably

If they do stump any cash for investment up, they need to do it soon. Now the financial fair play rules are starting to take effect, we can only overspend by £65m in total up to 2013.

After then its pure break even accounts only who will avoid sanctions.

Thats why its great to see so many players coming through the reserves and academys

by **red till i die!!** » Fri May 06, 2011 11:48 pm

not sure if this was posted in another thread.

Reds lay bare financial ruin of old regime

Friday May 06 2011
How bleak Liverpool's future was before the club's £300m takeover by Fenway Sports Group has been laid bare after the last set of accounts from the Tom Hicks and George Gillett regime revealed a £20m pre-tax loss despite increased revenues and profit on player sales.

Liverpool's accounts for the year ending July 2010 were filed yesterday, offering fans a glimpse as to what the future might have entailed had new ownership not been found in October.

Only a £23m profit on player trading -- thanks to the £30m sale of Xabi Alonso -- prevented the club matching the record £55m loss of the previous financial year.

Liverpool also posted improved revenues of £184m, up £7m, though that was offset by soaring administration expenses of £182m and an £8m pay-off to Rafael Benitez and his coaches.

That the club still managed to record such a substantial loss was due in part to a soaring wage bill -- more than £100m for the second consecutive year -- and the mounting cost of servicing the interest accrued by Hicks and Gillett when they bought the club in 2007. Liverpool spent £17.7m on interest in the last year of their tenure, an increase of £5m on the previous 12 months.

Managing director Ian Ayre said: "FSG has paid off £200m of acquisition debt from the previous owners, dramatically reducing interest payments as a result and meaning we are able to invest more revenue in the team rather than servicing debt." (© Daily Telegraph, London)

- Rory Smith.
http://www.independent.ie/sport....08.html

by **alwayslfc** » Sat May 07, 2011 2:05 pm

Do we really need a director of football? I am a bit cynical about this Comolli guy. I believe it is the manager's job to identify which players to sign because the manager is the one who will be working with the players on a daily basis not the director of football. But the manager does need good scouts to help him identify and report to him about any good potentials. From what I'm reading, this Comolli guy seems to have more say than the manager in terms of transfers and in the long term this may cause the King to leave all of a sudden once more because of this Comolli. He gives me the impression he's interfering with Kenny's job as far as transfers are concerned.

by **Ben Patrick** » Sat May 07, 2011 3:41 pm

alwayslfc wrote:Do we really need a director of football? I am a bit cynical about this Comolli guy. I believe it is the manager's job to identify which players to sign because the manager is the one who will be working with the players on a daily basis not the director of football. But the manager does need good scouts to help him identify and report to him about any good potentials. From what I'm reading, this Comolli guy seems to have more say than the manager in terms of transfers and in the long term this may cause the King to leave all of a sudden once more because of this Comolli. He gives me the impression he's interfering with Kenny's job as far as transfers are concerned.

I sort of agree.

But we dont know what goes on and who has what say etc.
What gives you the feeling that he is interfering ?
We have had one transfer window so far under Kenny and Comolli and i am made up with who was brought in.
The time we will know is in the summer, we are linked with all sorts of french promising players due to Comolli but thats not to say any of them will end up here. Hopefully Comolli is there to recommend players and if Kenny doesnt want them they wont be coming.

by **Scottbot** » Sat May 07, 2011 9:03 pm

I've been impresse with everything the owners have done so far, they've said all thr right things and seem like they know what they're doing but it does seem like they get a lot of plaudits for spending all this money when technically our net spend in the January window was 6-7 million. I'm not slating them but there is a bit of a love-in in the press foir them where as it's gonna be interesting to see what Kenny gets to spend come the summer.

by **parchpea** » Sun May 08, 2011 7:13 pm

I just pray that events over in Manchester today have sent a shockwave over the pond and the corridors of power at Anfield shook this afternoon whith the realisation our records gone. This summer has to be a big one and the club need to get it bang on next season to try and be the obstacle in the way of number 20 going over there. People are fond of talking up clubs like Chelsea, City the Arsenal but the truth is, and always has been, that we are the one and only football club big enough and powerful enough to get in their way. If we cant do it they will, and have, helpded themselves. NESV have to do everything possible to put this right now, absolutely everything.

by **ethanr** » Sun May 08, 2011 8:34 pm

parchpea wrote:I just pray that events over in Manchester today have sent a shockwave over the pond and the corridors of power at Anfield shook this afternoon whith the realisation our records gone. This summer has to be a big one and the club need to get it bang on next season to try and be the obstacle in the way of number 20 going over there. People are fond of talking up clubs like Chelsea, City the Arsenal but the truth is, and always has been, that we are the one and only football club big enough and powerful enough to get in their way. If we cant do it they will, and have, helpded themselves. NESV have to do everything possible to put this right now, absolutely everything.

by **roberto green** » Sun May 08, 2011 9:30 pm

ethanr wrote:
parchpea wrote:I just pray that events over in Manchester today have sent a shockwave over the pond and the corridors of power at Anfield shook this afternoon whith the realisation our records gone. This summer has to be a big one and the club need to get it bang on next season to try and be the obstacle in the way of number 20 going over there. People are fond of talking up clubs like Chelsea, City the Arsenal but the truth is, and always has been, that we are the one and only football club big enough and powerful enough to get in their way. If we cant do it they will, and have, helpded themselves. NESV have to do everything possible to put this right now, absolutely everything.

Double

by **damjan193** » Sun May 08, 2011 11:20 pm

I kind of dont agree with having a man like Comolli as well. The guy is definitely great at what he does, no question about that, but I dont like having someone who will have a bigger say in who comes and who goes than the manager.

Allegedly, as I've red, the owners thought that the key to previous failures was giving the manager a bigger freedom in transfer policy so now they wont give the manager any or very little say in transfers. That's why they brought Comolli and that's why Kenny might not be the kind of manager they are looking for. Dalglish is the kind of manager that would like to have his own players on the pitch rather than having someone else to construct the team for him. I've even heard that one of the main reasons for Dalglish not signing a long term deal yet is because of the fact that he'll have so little to say in making his team and bringing in the players that he'll have to work with. There has apparently already been a quarrel between the two, with Kenny wanting the likes of Scott Dann and Stewart Downing over Comolli's targets Garry Cahill and Ashley Young. This stuff is just what I've red or atleast remember reading so it might not be true.

Anyway, IMO this partnership will hardly work and if there are more failures still to come this will be one of the highlighted reasons for them.

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Mon May 09, 2011 1:50 am

damjan193 wrote:There has apparently already been a quarrel between the two, with Kenny wanting the likes of Scott Dann and Stewart Downing over Comolli's targets Garry Cahill and Ashley Young. This stuff is just what I've red or atleast remember reading so it might not be true.

irregardless of whether or not it is true that such an incident occurred, i find it hard, almost impossible, not to prefer Damien's choices over Kenny's.

by **The Good Yank** » Mon May 09, 2011 6:15 am

maypaxvobiscum wrote:
damjan193 wrote:There has apparently already been a quarrel between the two, with Kenny wanting the likes of Scott Dann and Stewart Downing over Comolli's targets Garry Cahill and Ashley Young. This stuff is just what I've red or atleast remember reading so it might not be true.

irregardless of whether or not it is true that such an incident occurred, i find it hard, almost impossible, not to prefer Damien's choices over Kenny's.

I gotta agree Maypax, If that was an issue, Comolli wins that one hands down.

I know many on here will probably not like this, but the way it looks is that FSG are in a way operating the way all sports in the US operate. All teams have a GM and he chooses the players and deals with the contracts etc. Then they have a Head Coach / Manager. The head coach/ managers do have some say in who is brought in but the bulk of the decisions are made by the General manager.

by **ethanr** » Mon May 09, 2011 7:37 am

The Good Yank wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:
damjan193 wrote:There has apparently already been a quarrel between the two, with Kenny wanting the likes of Scott Dann and Stewart Downing over Comolli's targets Garry Cahill and Ashley Young. This stuff is just what I've red or atleast remember reading so it might not be true.

irregardless of whether or not it is true that such an incident occurred, i find it hard, almost impossible, not to prefer Damien's choices over Kenny's.

I gotta agree Maypax, If that was an issue, Comolli wins that one hands down.

I know many on here will probably not like this, but the way it looks is that FSG are in a way operating the way all sports in the US operate. All teams have a GM and he chooses the players and deals with the contracts etc. Then they have a Head Coach / Manager. The head coach/ managers do have some say in who is brought in but the bulk of the decisions are made by the General manager.

Agree with both you... Young and Cahill would definitely be the better choice.

Tho I haven't heard anything of a disagreement yet and I'm not sure where that's come from. I'd prefer it's not true and that the two are getting along well because that's what we need, but more importantly we need the best possible players.

by **Waldo** » Mon May 09, 2011 12:41 pm

I disagree on Commolli. The guy has a superb track record of finding top young talent worldwide and by all accounts has developed a very strong network in the footballing world and is extremely highly regarded by many.

I don't believe for a minute that he has more of a say than the manager on transfers, especially not Kenny.

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