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Postby metalhead » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:12 pm

LFC2007 wrote:We've too many sub-standard players, too many who we kid ourselves to be quite good but who - by Liverpool standards - are actually very poor, and until that's recognised and acted upon by the club hierarchy we'll continue to wonder why we aren't competing with the likes of Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal etc.

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Postby tubby » Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:17 pm

Too many sub standard players yet but that's what happens when you try to compete for the top 4 and above on a limited budget. Had we the same resources as some of the teams around us the situation would be different.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:09 am

mart wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:thing is Bav, believe it or not, Roy is trying to re-build our squad and if he was anyone else he would probably be given the time and space to do it. However, because he's English, and because he's not a big name, he's getting hammered on every poor result. If we sack him then we need a plan to push through to progress the club. Putting Kenny in charge, and putting the club in limbo would be a disasterl in my view.

Rebuild with poulsen and konshitsky? Is he getting :censored: because he is english? Really? Talk about clutching at straws, as its usually the other way around. Foreign managers and players have to be twice as good to be compared to their english counterparts.

poulsen and konshitsky were signed when we had NO MONEY.
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Postby Cool Hand Luke » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:25 am

7_Kewell wrote:
mart wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:thing is Bav, believe it or not, Roy is trying to re-build our squad and if he was anyone else he would probably be given the time and space to do it. However, because he's English, and because he's not a big name, he's getting hammered on every poor result. If we sack him then we need a plan to push through to progress the club. Putting Kenny in charge, and putting the club in limbo would be a disasterl in my view.

Rebuild with poulsen and konshitsky? Is he getting :censored: because he is english? Really? Talk about clutching at straws, as its usually the other way around. Foreign managers and players have to be twice as good to be compared to their english counterparts.

poulsen and konshitsky were signed when we had NO MONEY.

But they cost £10Mil

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Postby 7_Kewell » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:26 am

Cool Hand Luke wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
mart wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:thing is Bav, believe it or not, Roy is trying to re-build our squad and if he was anyone else he would probably be given the time and space to do it. However, because he's English, and because he's not a big name, he's getting hammered on every poor result. If we sack him then we need a plan to push through to progress the club. Putting Kenny in charge, and putting the club in limbo would be a disasterl in my view.

Rebuild with poulsen and konshitsky? Is he getting :censored: because he is english? Really? Talk about clutching at straws, as its usually the other way around. Foreign managers and players have to be twice as good to be compared to their english counterparts.

poulsen and konshitsky were signed when we had NO MONEY.

But they cost £10Mil

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well...yeah. But most of its in installments and i'm sure if Roy had money to spend he wouldn't have bought either. He had limited funds, so he brought in players he knew.
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Postby killerp » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:35 am

LFC2007 wrote:We've too many sub-standard players, too many who we kid ourselves to be quite good but who - by Liverpool standards - are actually very poor, and until that's recognised and acted upon by the club hierarchy we'll continue to wonder why we aren't competing with the likes of Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal etc.

Hit the nail on the head, think how many of our first team players would Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal want for example? I can only think of 3.
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Postby mart » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:49 am

7_Kewell wrote:He had limited funds, so he brought in players he knew.

Why didnt he spend 10 mill on 1-2 players that might be good instead of two he knows suck (he did know them right?).
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Postby 7_Kewell » Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:21 am

mart wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:He had limited funds, so he brought in players he knew.

Why didnt he spend 10 mill on 1-2 players that might be good instead of two he knows suck (he did know them right?).

i'm guessing that he thought they would be good.
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Postby akumaface » Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:48 am

If the Owner say to us fans that we are in rebuilding mold and is selling everyone. How many fans would accept that? You have to understand that there is no guarantee that we will remain competitive after the rebuilding mode. I know all of us would remain loyal to the club but I think it would not be beneficial to the club overall developement. It is better off to have a mix of veteran and young talent as i don't think we need an overhaul. Just need to toughen up mentally and bring in a few good players then we should rebuild in parallel. That should be a more viable option I think.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:57 am

NANNY RED wrote:You mighten hear it at the match i have never abused any manager at the match ,ever , but fecking hell come on you go the pubs before an after the games you hear the supporters , you read other forums . Thinga are said on Forums and in pubs after the game that are never said in the ground, we always have to be seen to get behind the team an even id go as far as Roy, but you know yourself the feeling of the fans , surely , DO YOU KNOW WHAT ive looked at quite a few id say most of the Liverpool forums today just havin a nosy , just to see if its just me ,am i in the minority who feels like this, and let me tell you . im not , its this forum and the fans who post on here that stand out by a country mile in there get behind Roy, So every other person is wrong and everyone on here is right,
I come on here wether we win or lose , i dont hide so for anyone to say anything else is talking rubbish,
We know Torres is not playing well and noone is ignoring the fact , same as i never ignored the fact that he was out with injury problems a hell of a lot last season,
And Daws im sorry but ive been going and supporting us for to long to accept we are just an average side , I fought with every bone in my body to rid people who were trying to destroy us as a club, why should i keep my mouth shut and just go along with the love in on here of a man who i think will destroy us on the football pitch , he has to go now before we get any worse , because if he doest it is gonna take a long long time to rcover, get rid now while we can still gain some self respect on the pitch

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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:06 am

Ring-of-Fire wrote:
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7_Kewell wrote:most match going fans accepted Rafa's time was up

Not the matches I went to, they didn't.

I would hazard a guess the majority of the lads who I sat in the Kop with last season  would agree with you .........
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Postby Ciggy » Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:55 pm

So they are on LFC TV at 5'oclock.

The manager said today in the Daily post.

“Roy Hodgson has conceded that Liverpool may not finish in the top half of the Premier League


Is the embracing and acceptance of mid-table mediocrity by the manager shared by the board of Liverpool Football Club?

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Postby Thommo's perm » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:16 pm

Ciggy wrote:So they are on LFC TV at 5'oclock.

The manager said today in the Daily post.

“Roy Hodgson has conceded that Liverpool may not finish in the top half of the Premier League


Is the embracing and acceptance of mid-table mediocrity by the manager shared by the board of Liverpool Football Club?

Thanks.

The players who arent currently pulling their weight need to read that and sort it pronto
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Postby tubby » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:56 pm

Ciggy wrote:So they are on LFC TV at 5'oclock.

The manager said today in the Daily post.

“Roy Hodgson has conceded that Liverpool may not finish in the top half of the Premier League


Is the embracing and acceptance of mid-table mediocrity by the manager shared by the board of Liverpool Football Club?

Thanks.

Shocking to concede if true considering it's not even xmas yet.

FFS If he has any respect for the club he will step down tonight.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:08 pm

7_Kewell wrote:well...yeah. But most of its in installments and i'm sure if Roy had money to spend he wouldn't have bought either. He had limited funds, so he brought in players he knew.

Kinell that sound very familiar that . Not a good enough excuse though apparently .  :;):
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