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Postby anti-hero » Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:38 pm

i found this, worth a read. draws parallels with henry's hiring of theo epstein and the implementation of sabermetrics.

Damien Comolli is headed back to England. Comolli, the former Arsenal scout and director of football at Tottenham Hotspur, has been appointed by John Henry and his ownership team as director of football strategy at Anfield. The Frenchman, who was most recently the sporting director at Saint-Étienne, has established himself as a talent evaluator that thrives on finding undervalued players. He also shares a network with John Henry in the world of sports metrics and analytics.

While Comolli was at White Hart Lane he became good friends with Major League Baseball General Manager Billy Beane. Beane was on top of the world at the time with his analysis of the Oakland A’s baseball team through objective data on display in bookshelves across the world in Michael Lewis’ Moneyball. Comolli originally reached out to Beane with the hope of introducing the approach to European football and the two struck up a friendship that would lead to Spurs visiting Beane’s other franchise – Major League Soccer’s San Jose Earthquakes. Comolli wasn’t the only person admiring Bean’s work. A few year’s earlier John Henry pursued Beane to run the Red Sox organization when he purchased it.

When Beane eventually passed on the opportunity (after originally accepting it), Henry turned to current Red Sox General Manager Theo Epstein – a Yale graduate with little background in professional baseball. Since taking the reigns of the Red Sox, Epstein – with Henry’s backing – has focused on developing talent that produce in less appreciated but more statistically important categories.

Despite passing on the Red Sox, Beane and Henry have stayed close through the years. Strangely enough, Beane was in England when Henry’s take-over of Liverpool was completed on a panel with Arsenal boss Arsène Wenger discussing the use of statistical analysis. There is little doubt in this case that Henry reached out to Beane for assistance in pinpointing Comolli as the man to implement his system into the Premier League. Beane has taken to football and American soccer since striking up his friendship with Comolli (He’s an avid fan of Spurs despite Damien not being there) and after the Oakland A’s ownership team bought the San Jose Earthquakes he agreed to assist them in building a method for building a cost-effective club to compete with the MLS’ salary cap.

So what does all this mean for Liverpool and Roy Hodgson? Simply put – player evaluation and transfer targeting is no longer in Hodgson’s court. Comolli, who many will hail in Anfield today as the man that signed Mr. All-World Gareth Bale at Tottenham (looks better now than it did then), should be recognized more for bringing in Kolo Toure, Emmanuel Eboue and Gael Clichy to Arsenal for a fraction of their future worth. Just as Henry has relinquished complete control to Theo Epstein in the baseball personnel department at Fenway he is entrusting Comolli at Anfield to find football players that are undervalued.

While its common place in the EPL for managers to implement new systems as they swap jobs like its musical chairs, Henry wants to put an American-like system in place for the long-haul that operates from the front office down. The approach will likely emulate Olympique Lyonnais and their focus on handing the reigns over to a football director rather than putting the reigns in hands of short-term managers and coaches. With Comolli in this like role Liverpool fans can expect more signings and re-signings of players like Martin Skrtel – rather than big name splashes. But that may be a good thing for the long-term outlook at the club.

However, it doesn’t help the long-term outlook for Hodgson – even if he wins. It’s widely known in baseball circles that the Henry and Epstein had their mind made up to fire Red Sox manager Grady Little after the 2003 season – and would have done so, even if they won the World Series. He simply wasn’t the man to oversee their system on a day-to-day basis. It’d be hard to believe that they feel differently about Hodgson. Comolli has a similar track record when it comes to having a quick trigger. His return to Saint-Étienne as sporting director in 2008 quickly led to the departure of manager Laurent Roussey. If Henry’s past overtures are a barometer he and Comoli will have their eyes on a new manager after the season that they can shape into the day-to-day overseer of their system. Perhaps a young, aspiring manager, with a business degree on the wall and statistics on the mind like Aidy Boothroyd?



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Postby Reg » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:11 pm

Good post that A-H, thanks mate. Its a kick in the teeth for the high price merry-go-round players and agents. Lets hope it works - but there'll be an inevitable time lag before you see results.
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Postby Ciggy » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:31 pm

Aidy Boothroyd?  ???
There is no-one anywhere in the world at any stage who is any bigger or any better than this football club.

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Postby Reg » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:56 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aidy_Boothroyd

yeah, I had to look him up as well.......... :laugh:

I'm not totally put off to tell you the truth, I've got a sense of humour...
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Postby metalhead » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:32 pm

aidy boothroyd for Liverpool manager :buttrock

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Postby Thommo's perm » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:44 pm

metalhead wrote:aidy boothroyd for Liverpool manager :buttrock

:D

Is he Bettys dad?
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Postby lakes10 » Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:26 am

Gordon Ramsay's bank has prevented him from selling his property for security reasons, a source has claimed.

According to the Daily Mail, the Royal Bank of Scotland wants to keep his house as security against the celebrity chef's financial difficulties.

Ramsay, who hosts the US versions of MasterChef and Hell's Kitchen, has reportedly reached debts of £17 million.

Meanwhile, a spokesperson for the bank insisted that it was "entirely commonplace" and "standard business practice" for the house to be used this way


lol sort of the same thing RBS did to G&H in the last days of thesale lol
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Postby JBG » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:14 pm

Ciggy wrote:Aidy Boothroyd?  ???

Yeah, what drugs was the guy smoking when he wrote that?

Aidy Bothroyd achieved some success at Watford, but it certainly wasnt football they were playing.
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Postby stmichael » Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:26 pm

Tom Werner to become the new Chairman apparently.
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Postby tommycockles » Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:22 pm

stmichael wrote:Tom Werner to become the new Chairman apparently.

Well at least it's one of his top guys which is good to see.
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Postby Reg » Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:37 pm

tommycockles wrote:
stmichael wrote:Tom Werner to become the new Chairman apparently.

Well at least it's one of his top guys which is good to see.

Excellent mate, more positive news for the club.   

(and the banks, the city council ref the stadium, the local community and the fans etc...)

These guys are tickin' the boxes one by one.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:41 pm

Henry says Roys here to stay...
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Postby Reg » Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:51 pm

We means Roy Berkley, the guy who changes the floodlight bulbs.

Dont bring the Roy debate into this thread please Thommo, there are already enough places to vent your feelings.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:17 pm

Reg wrote:We means Roy Berkley, the guy who changes the floodlight bulbs.

Dont bring the Roy debate into this thread please Thommo, there are already enough places to vent your feelings.

So when the new owner talks about our future, which includes our current manager, its forbidden?

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Postby fivecups » Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:23 pm

Thommo's perm wrote:Henry says Roys here to stay...

Not trying to derail this thread but the full John Henry interview is coming up on SSN at 830pm and it's probably worth watching the full thing before drawing absolute conclusions.

He said no-ones future was guaranteed but that he had no plans to change the manager and NESV tend to stick with their managers if possible. He also said he was learning alot about English football and learning alot from Roy and given it wasn't his team he thought a lot of the criticism was unfair.
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