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NANNY RED wrote:Torres : "When you say' three two three two', is that our new shape?"
Woy: "I said 'twee twoo, twee twoo' "

 

Stop being an OWLarse Nan

rocky29 wrote:

bigmick wrote:I watched the first half of the West Ham v Newcastle game, and the contrast between what they're being offered from the front and waht Torres is offering us so far this season is frightening. DISCLAIMER AT THIS POINT: I AM NOT SAYING THAT ANY OF THEIR PLAYERS ARE BETTER, NOR AM I SAYING WE SHOULD SWAP TORRES FOR THEM.


Anyway that over with, Newcastle have Carroll and Ameobe up front. Carroll in particular does what a good centre forward should do when you are playing away, he fights for it, he holds it up, he contests everything. In short he is a pain in the erse for the opposition defence. West Ham have that Piquione who was at Pompey and is a decent player, constantly trying to run in behind and diagonally into the channels, and Carlton Cole for whom any ball hoisted over the top is fair game. Both teams have an out ball all the time, and both teams front players get through some graft.

Torres used to for us as well. Forget all this nonsense about "it's the way we're playing" and all that sh!t as well, he used to contest everything, fight for the football, look to run in behind, argue with defenders, niggle, get on the refs case. In short he was a nasty little fecker as well as being a fecking good player. Strikers have to be. Remember the goal he got us at Old Trafford where we launched it from the edge of our area (it wasn't anywhere near a pass, it was a clearance) and he worried Vidic out of it before scoring the equaliser. We spent the whole of that game launching it to great effect (this is in no way shape or form a criticism, it was a well formed plan which exposed their tendancy to attack in too heavy a number) and Torres terrorised them. Remember the lung bursting surge which took him clear of Ferdinand and onto Benayouns slip in for the 1-0 win at Anfield? Remember not just the pace, but the run, the hunger and the fight to ward off the advances of a top class defender.

N'Gog always looks to me like a lovely lad when he plays. I'll bet he's the most polite player at the club. Babel looks like he's away with the fairies much of the time, while Torres looks like he's totally disinterested and wants away. Unless the rest of the players, the manager or Torres himself can find a way to unlock the devil and the hunger in him again, we are going to be struggling all the way until January when the window opens.

you see emerald even bigmick knows im right. All im interested in is the here and now i dont care what a player has done in the past. Theres way to much player power in my opinion. Its a TEAM sport and no individual is bigger than the club.

bavlondon wrote:Torres is fine, it's the system Roy is employing that isn't working. That system results in less chances on goal for Torres as we don't press as often as we used to. Not saying he isn't sulking but it's not fair to blame him.

maguskwt wrote:

rocky29 wrote:

bigmick wrote:I watched the first half of the West Ham v Newcastle game, and the contrast between what they're being offered from the front and waht Torres is offering us so far this season is frightening. DISCLAIMER AT THIS POINT: I AM NOT SAYING THAT ANY OF THEIR PLAYERS ARE BETTER, NOR AM I SAYING WE SHOULD SWAP TORRES FOR THEM.


Anyway that over with, Newcastle have Carroll and Ameobe up front. Carroll in particular does what a good centre forward should do when you are playing away, he fights for it, he holds it up, he contests everything. In short he is a pain in the erse for the opposition defence. West Ham have that Piquione who was at Pompey and is a decent player, constantly trying to run in behind and diagonally into the channels, and Carlton Cole for whom any ball hoisted over the top is fair game. Both teams have an out ball all the time, and both teams front players get through some graft.

Torres used to for us as well. Forget all this nonsense about "it's the way we're playing" and all that sh!t as well, he used to contest everything, fight for the football, look to run in behind, argue with defenders, niggle, get on the refs case. In short he was a nasty little fecker as well as being a fecking good player. Strikers have to be. Remember the goal he got us at Old Trafford where we launched it from the edge of our area (it wasn't anywhere near a pass, it was a clearance) and he worried Vidic out of it before scoring the equaliser. We spent the whole of that game launching it to great effect (this is in no way shape or form a criticism, it was a well formed plan which exposed their tendancy to attack in too heavy a number) and Torres terrorised them. Remember the lung bursting surge which took him clear of Ferdinand and onto Benayouns slip in for the 1-0 win at Anfield? Remember not just the pace, but the run, the hunger and the fight to ward off the advances of a top class defender.

N'Gog always looks to me like a lovely lad when he plays. I'll bet he's the most polite player at the club. Babel looks like he's away with the fairies much of the time, while Torres looks like he's totally disinterested and wants away. Unless the rest of the players, the manager or Torres himself can find a way to unlock the devil and the hunger in him again, we are going to be struggling all the way until January when the window opens.

you see emerald even bigmick knows im right. All im interested in is the here and now i dont care what a player has done in the past. Theres way to much player power in my opinion. Its a TEAM sport and no individual is bigger than the club.

Yes it's a TEAM sport... I wonder why Torres is not getting any support from the TEAM?

Because we play like pussies and play 10 man behind the ball that's why...

I think you meant

"We play like Poulsens"

rocky29 wrote:

bavlondon wrote:Torres is fine, it's the system Roy is employing that isn't working. That system results in less chances on goal for Torres as we don't press as often as we used to. Not saying he isn't sulking but it's not fair to blame him.

i will remember you said that and remind you when you change your mind id say give it another month and you and emerald will be slegging him off just like we are. Unfortunately your both abit thick to realise whats going on at the moment.

yes all we need to do is bring back Aquilani and buy another striker isn't it? 

bavlondon wrote:Torres is fine, it's the system Roy is employing that isn't working. That system results in less chances on goal for Torres as we don't press as often as we used to. Not saying he isn't sulking but it's not fair to blame him.

maguskwt wrote:

rocky29 wrote:

bavlondon wrote:Torres is fine, it's the system Roy is employing that isn't working. That system results in less chances on goal for Torres as we don't press as often as we used to. Not saying he isn't sulking but it's not fair to blame him.

i will remember you said that and remind you when you change your mind id say give it another month and you and emerald will be slegging him off just like we are. Unfortunately your both abit thick to realise whats going on at the moment.

yes all we need to do is bring back Aquilani and buy another striker isn't it? 

maguskwt wrote:

rocky29 wrote:

bavlondon wrote:Torres is fine, it's the system Roy is employing that isn't working. That system results in less chances on goal for Torres as we don't press as often as we used to. Not saying he isn't sulking but it's not fair to blame him.

i will remember you said that and remind you when you change your mind id say give it another month and you and emerald will be slegging him off just like we are. Unfortunately your both abit thick to realise whats going on at the moment.

yes all we need to do is bring back Aquilani and buy another striker isn't it? 

Two strikers, two!!

rocky29 wrote:

maguskwt wrote:

rocky29 wrote:

bavlondon wrote:Torres is fine, it's the system Roy is employing that isn't working. That system results in less chances on goal for Torres as we don't press as often as we used to. Not saying he isn't sulking but it's not fair to blame him.

i will remember you said that and remind you when you change your mind id say give it another month and you and emerald will be slegging him off just like we are. Unfortunately your both abit thick to realise whats going on at the moment.

yes all we need to do is bring back Aquilani and buy another striker isn't it? 

well we do miss aqua and yes we do need a fecking striker dont we. So th.anks for bringing it to light to everyone. That im always right.

bigmick wrote:

bavlondon wrote:Torres is fine, it's the system Roy is employing that isn't working. That system results in less chances on goal for Torres as we don't press as often as we used to. Not saying he isn't sulking but it's not fair to blame him.

Why say Torres is "fine" when he palpably isn't? Whether or not the system we are playing is working (it isn't) doesn't or shouldn't have any effect on how hard he works without the ball, whetherer he makes himself available, whether he runs the channels, whether he shows short, whether he fights for the football.

"Not saying he isn't sulking but who can blame him". What are you on about mate? Fans have slagged Gerrard off for years for "sulking", and this is while he is still turning in Roy of the Rovers performances every week.

Torres needs to put a shift in. Whether or not he is "sulking", whether he likes Roy or thinks he is a c... is immaterial. He needs to graft for the team, simple really.

maguskwt wrote:

bigmick wrote:

bavlondon wrote:Torres is fine, it's the system Roy is employing that isn't working. That system results in less chances on goal for Torres as we don't press as often as we used to. Not saying he isn't sulking but it's not fair to blame him.

Why say Torres is "fine" when he palpably isn't? Whether or not the system we are playing is working (it isn't) doesn't or shouldn't have any effect on how hard he works without the ball, whetherer he makes himself available, whether he runs the channels, whether he shows short, whether he fights for the football.

"Not saying he isn't sulking but who can blame him". What are you on about mate? Fans have slagged Gerrard off for years for "sulking", and this is while he is still turning in Roy of the Rovers performances every week.

Torres needs to put a shift in. Whether or not he is "sulking", whether he likes Roy or thinks he is a c... is immaterial. He needs to graft for the team, simple really.

If the system isn't working, we cannot be sure whether Torres is fine or he isn't. The main problem is the system which should be fixed first before we make scapegoats of our star players...

rocky29 wrote:lol are you still at primary school or what. So you take the pess out of me. You bring up aqua when i never mentioned aqua so your posting in the wrong thread. Go get your mummy and tell her to get your dummy.

maguskwt wrote:

rocky29 wrote:lol are you still at primary school or what. So you take the pess out of me. You bring up aqua when i never mentioned aqua so your posting in the wrong thread. Go get your mummy and tell her to get your dummy.

"Exhibit 1B: More materials to support 1A..."

rocky29 wrote:

maguskwt wrote:

rocky29 wrote:lol are you still at primary school or what. So you take the pess out of me. You bring up aqua when i never mentioned aqua so your posting in the wrong thread. Go get your mummy and tell her to get your dummy.

"Exhibit 1B: More materials to support 1A..."

exhibit 34dd trying to get other posters yellow carded is a serious offence and will not be tolerated by the mods.

  you're not too original now are you?