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Postby 7_Kewell » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:46 pm

would love to be proben wrong, but he looks too lightweight for the Premier league.
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Postby jacdaniel » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:56 pm

7_Kewell wrote:would love to be proben wrong, but he looks too lightweight for the Premier league.

Hopefully he can bulk up a bit.
He can definitly pick out a pass though... something we'll really need now that Yossi and Alonso have left in recent times.
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Postby andy_g » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:07 pm

its a massive season for him, no doubt about it. i'm expecting at least an improvement both in appearances and performances. i'm also hoping his wife will dump him and give me a call. i can't quite decide which is more likely to happen...
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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:29 pm

Maickito wrote:I agree with jacdaniels ; maybe its time to have two footballers back in the middle of the park

DM have a time and place. A DM isn't very useful against the Boltons of this world though

Aqua and Gerrard in midfield would be nice !

Aquilani is never a CM.
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Postby Fauxy » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:34 pm

Aquilani could play CM against lesser opposition. But against opposition that are good in possesion your midfielders have to wins back possesion and dominate. Aquilani couldnt do that.
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Postby metalhead » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:40 pm

bigmick wrote:Come on Alberto lad, prove us doubters wrong, make us eat our words.

I sense that you have this slight feeling that you might be wrong about the player and he will turn out to be good.

Well, here is hoping he can be a top player for us next season
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:43 pm

bavlondon wrote:Alberto Aquilani '100% healed' and ready to shine for Liverpool

• Liverpool's head of sports medicine impressed by Italian
• Aquilani 'has looked very sharp', he says

The Liverpool midfielder Alberto Aquilani has completely recovered from the ankle problem which hampered his first season at Anfield, according to the club's new medical chief.

The Italian had to wait more than two months for his Reds debut following a £20m move from Roma last year and then endured an indifferent campaign. But the 25-year-old is now back with the club for pre-season training and has already made a positive impression on the newly-appointed head of sports medicine and sports science, Peter Brukner.

Brukner told LFC Weekly magazine: "Alberto's ankle, which was a problem last year, is now 100% healed. He has been training and has looked very sharp. He'll have to keep working on his injury prevention programme and if he does, I'm sure the supporters will see the best of him because last season was very frustrating for him injury-wise."

Brukner's next task is to assess the fitness of star striker Fernando Torres, who pulled up with an adductor injury in Sunday's World Cup final in South Africa. Torres has now returned to Madrid with the rest of the victorious Spain squad and Liverpool staff are to fly out to meet him this week.

Brukner is generally pleased with the health of the squad but the group is only coming back together slowly because of varying lengths of involvement at the World Cup. "Staggering pre-season presents a challenge," he said. "I'm guessing that the World Cup guys will be pretty fit anyway. You don't lose a lot in three weeks and they've all been in contact with us to speak about their programme over that period."

So what the good doc is saying there is that Rafa had no choice but to play him sparingly last season.

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Postby Scottbot » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:54 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Alberto Aquilani '100% healed' and ready to shine for Liverpool

• Liverpool's head of sports medicine impressed by Italian
• Aquilani 'has looked very sharp', he says

The Liverpool midfielder Alberto Aquilani has completely recovered from the ankle problem which hampered his first season at Anfield, according to the club's new medical chief.

The Italian had to wait more than two months for his Reds debut following a £20m move from Roma last year and then endured an indifferent campaign. But the 25-year-old is now back with the club for pre-season training and has already made a positive impression on the newly-appointed head of sports medicine and sports science, Peter Brukner.

Brukner told LFC Weekly magazine: "Alberto's ankle, which was a problem last year, is now 100% healed. He has been training and has looked very sharp. He'll have to keep working on his injury prevention programme and if he does, I'm sure the supporters will see the best of him because last season was very frustrating for him injury-wise."

Brukner's next task is to assess the fitness of star striker Fernando Torres, who pulled up with an adductor injury in Sunday's World Cup final in South Africa. Torres has now returned to Madrid with the rest of the victorious Spain squad and Liverpool staff are to fly out to meet him this week.

Brukner is generally pleased with the health of the squad but the group is only coming back together slowly because of varying lengths of involvement at the World Cup. "Staggering pre-season presents a challenge," he said. "I'm guessing that the World Cup guys will be pretty fit anyway. You don't lose a lot in three weeks and they've all been in contact with us to speak about their programme over that period."

So what the good doc is saying there is that Rafa had no choice but to play him sparingly last season.

It's always nice to dispell idiots' rumours  with unequivocal fact.

Not sure he is saying exactly that mate. I think Alberto was capable of playing more games than he did last season. I firmly believe he didn't turn out to be quite the player Rafa was hoping for and consequently, he didn't get much playing time. I think the fact Rafa talked about him being the link between Mascherano and Gerrard tells us he was earmarked to play as a CM, not in the hole as some have suggested.

If I was Hodgson i'd get the lad working closely with a trainer these next 4-6 weeks, get some muscle on him and see if we can't persuade him to make a tackle or two. There's no doubt he has is talented + he's a player I really enjoyed watching at times last season. He's not particularly quick so half a stone of muscle could be the making of him in this league.
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Postby bigmick » Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:07 pm

metalhead wrote:
bigmick wrote:Come on Alberto lad, prove us doubters wrong, make us eat our words.

I sense that you have this slight feeling that you might be wrong about the player and he will turn out to be good.

Well, here is hoping he can be a top player for us next season

Sadly no mate. Sometimes you make a call/have a guess about a player and you really aren't sure. As a veteran of many "I know it's early" threads I'm obviously well aware that sometimes you get it hoplessly wrong. This may be the case with Aquilani too, but if I was a betting man I'd rail against it.

The problem isn't that he doesn't have ability, he obviously has that. The problem is how you fit him into a team which is playing in the Premiership and has aspirations to be up there or abouts. If he was playing for Bolton or somebody for instance, it wouldn't be a problem. They could carry him Jay Jay Ococha style, Alberto could chip in with few spectacular goals, a few flashes of quality and a few assists, win their player of the year award and all would be good.

He isn't playing for Bolton though, he's playing for Liverpool. With us, there are three roles he can possibly play, and only one of them it seems to me offers up realistic possibilities.

He can play Gerrard style off the front man, but the problem for me here is he won't score often enough, or influence the game often enough to make it work. Neither will he tackle anybody, so the feeling you'll end up with is why don't we just play a genuine striker in there and have done with it?

He can play as one of a central two, alongside say a Gerrard. This would be OK, but his lightwieghtness defensively put's a huge strain on his partner. I don't think it would work.

The third way, and the way I'd set up if you were looking to give yourself the maximum chance of Alberto prospering, is to go 4-2-3-1. In this system, you sit say Gerrard and Lucas in behind, and have Aquilani, a Babel and say an Albert Riera playing in behind your central striker. It does mean you are almost playing a 4-2-4 though as none of the front four will track back, and I simply can't see Roy playing that way. The only other option is if you bought what would be my number one transfer target (STEVEN IRELAND) and played a diamond of 4-1-2-1-2. This way, you'd sit Lucas at the base, with Gerrard and Ireland ahead of him with Aquilani ahead of them. That'd work alright IMHO. Anyway we'll see, and everyone has long since stopped reading anyway :laugh:.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:28 pm

bigmick wrote:
metalhead wrote:
bigmick wrote:Come on Alberto lad, prove us doubters wrong, make us eat our words.

I sense that you have this slight feeling that you might be wrong about the player and he will turn out to be good.

Well, here is hoping he can be a top player for us next season

Sadly no mate. Sometimes you make a call/have a guess about a player and you really aren't sure. As a veteran of many "I know it's early" threads I'm obviously well aware that sometimes you get it hoplessly wrong. This may be the case with Aquilani too, but if I was a betting man I'd rail against it.

The problem isn't that he doesn't have ability, he obviously has that. The problem is how you fit him into a team which is playing in the Premiership and has aspirations to be up there or abouts. If he was playing for Bolton or somebody for instance, it wouldn't be a problem. They could carry him Jay Jay Ococha style, Alberto could chip in with few spectacular goals, a few flashes of quality and a few assists, win their player of the year award and all would be good.

He isn't playing for Bolton though, he's playing for Liverpool. With us, there are three roles he can possibly play, and only one of them it seems to me offers up realistic possibilities.

He can play Gerrard style off the front man, but the problem for me here is he won't score often enough, or influence the game often enough to make it work. Neither will he tackle anybody, so the feeling you'll end up with is why don't we just play a genuine striker in there and have done with it?

He can play as one of a central two, alongside say a Gerrard. This would be OK, but his lightwieghtness defensively put's a huge strain on his partner. I don't think it would work.

The third way, and the way I'd set up if you were looking to give yourself the maximum chance of Alberto prospering, is to go 4-2-3-1. In this system, you sit say Gerrard and Lucas in behind, and have Aquilani, a Babel and say an Albert Riera playing in behind your central striker. It does mean you are almost playing a 4-2-4 though as none of the front four will track back, and I simply can't see Roy playing that way. The only other option is if you bought what would be my number one transfer target (STEVEN IRELAND) and played a diamond of 4-1-2-1-2. This way, you'd sit Lucas at the base, with Gerrard and Ireland ahead of him with Aquilani ahead of them. That'd work alright IMHO. Anyway we'll see, and everyone has long since stopped reading anyway :laugh:.

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Postby bigmick » Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:28 pm

:laugh: Fair enough.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:35 pm

bigmick wrote: :laugh: Fair enough.

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Postby rocky29 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:22 pm

no offence but aqua has what u call a good footballing brain. unfortunately he has babbel on the left of him dirk on the right of him and poor old lucas behind him. and people wonder why its not working out for him!
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Postby Scottbot » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:39 am

rocky29 wrote:no offence but aqua has what u call a good footballing brain. unfortunately he has babbel on the left of him dirk on the right of him and poor old lucas behind him. and people wonder why its not working out for him!

It's a good point and it's no surprise that Aqua showed his best moments playing in a front 5 that comprised of himself, Maxi, Gerrard, Babel and Torres. Skillful (and for the most part) intelligent players with good movement and a bit of pace. He really needs to be playing in a team that sees a lot of the ball, keeps possession and understands what he wants to do with the ball, he looked on a completely different page at times last season but there were a few occasions where he clicked with Gerrard. The lad still needs to learn how to put a tackle in though, if he can't do that it's gonna be a real short stay.
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Postby stmichael » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:51 am

bigmick wrote:He can play Gerrard style off the front man, but the problem for me here is he won't score often enough, or influence the game often enough to make it work. Neither will he tackle anybody, so the feeling you'll end up with is why don't we just play a genuine striker in there and have done with it?

But I don't want my number 10 to be tackling back anyway. I want him to be influencing play in the final third of the pitch, that is it. Ok you get players who are en exception to this rule such as Rooney, or even Dirk if he plays there but that's just in their nature wherever they play to be honest.

To be honest I haven't seen him play in the role often enough to make a proper judgement yet imo. When he has played there (Spurs at home for example) he was excellent and linked up really well with Dirk who was playing the lone striker. I think to say that he wouldn't be involved enough is harsh. With the right players around him he'd excel, especially if they pass and move to the best of their ability.

You may have a point about his goalscoring though. I don't relly see him being proloific, but then Gerrard was hardly prolific in thet position last season either, especially by his normal standards.
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