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by **rocky29** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:11 pm

zarababe wrote:
Boocity wrote:England getting beat by three goals by Germany doesn't look that bad now.

yeh keep kidding yerself...

ye your right and maybe if capello had brought on heskey 5 minutes before he did we might of got a draw? :laugh:

by **rocky29** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:18 pm

not one to be skepitical and doubt germany sheer quality. But i cannot believe the sheer energy the german team showed. When you consider 90 minutes full pace playing at altitude they just seemed to have endless energy argentina and england just couldnt keep up the same intensity. Do ulot think it just because of germans young average age or could there be another reason?

by **Number 9** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:30 pm

Torres first goal and Spain to win 3-1

28/1 :nod

by **SeaofRed** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:30 pm

rocky29 wrote:not one to be skepitical and doubt germany sheer quality. But i cannot believe the sheer energy the german team showed. When you consider 90 minutes full pace playing at altitude they just seemed to have endless energy argentina and england just couldnt keep up the same intensity. Do ulot think it just because of germans young average age or could there be another reason?

It could be down to a combination of things. Training methods, the fact that many of these players are relatively unknown quantities in the footballing world, youth, a never say die attitude, adrenalin, the desire to succeed at the highest level and so on...

by **tubby** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:34 pm

Big Niall wrote:funny world cup - kaka,messi,ronaldo,rooney,torres, did very litte - 1 goal between them I think.

Time running out for a star to perform, Torres has 3 games left (max), maybe he can do a Paolo Rossi?

To be fair Villa has performed. Klose too even if he is getting on a bit.

by **tubby** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:36 pm

SeaofRed wrote:
rocky29 wrote:not one to be skepitical and doubt germany sheer quality. But i cannot believe the sheer energy the german team showed. When you consider 90 minutes full pace playing at altitude they just seemed to have endless energy argentina and england just couldnt keep up the same intensity. Do ulot think it just because of germans young average age or could there be another reason?

It could be down to a combination of things. Training methods, the fact that many of these players are relatively unknown quantities in the footballing world, youth, a never say die attitude, adrenalin, the desire to succeed at the highest level and so on...

There was a good interview in 442 about the German's during the world cup and why they always do well. From such a young age they are drilled in with the mentality of winning, even for under 21 tournaments.

Well worth a read if you can dig that one out. And to think several of those players today were from that under 21 team a year and a bit ago, makes it even more impressive.

by **SeaofRed** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:40 pm

I'll try and locate the article Bav.

I think Beckenbaur was spot on with what he said about English football, I hated the fact he felt obliged to apologise for his comments. As they say, the truth hurts.

England could do with adopting the German approach to football, we might actually be able to beat someone half decent.

by **zarababe** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:49 pm

rocky29 wrote:not one to be skepitical and doubt germany sheer quality. But i cannot believe the sheer energy the german team showed. When you consider 90 minutes full pace playing at altitude they just seemed to have endless energy argentina and england just couldnt keep up the same intensity. Do ulot think it just because of germans young average age or could there be another reason?

The balance between attacking and defending, experience and 'younglings' was right. They are an attractive side to watch !

Today they defended as a team and were devastating in attack.

They snuffed out the attacking prowess of Argentina and exposed their biggest weakness - defence.

They and other teams including all South American teams and Ghana (for new and upcoming) are all comfortable with the ball - the Kaiser taliked of 'kick-and-rush' - that is immature football, not being confortable in possession.. that is back to basics stuff.

BTW although Messi did not score he's still proven he is the most gifted of this generation at THIS world cup- at 22 don't hold your breath people, the next world cup - in Brazil - will be his :buttrock

by **tubby** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:02 pm

SeaofRed wrote:I'll try and locate the article Bav.

I think Beckenbaur was spot on with what he said about English football, I hated the fact he felt obliged to apologise for his comments. As they say, the truth hurts.

England could do with adopting the German approach to football, we might actually be able to beat someone half decent.

Pay £5 for the magazine and then you find the interviews are all online for free. :laugh:

Here you go I managed to track it down. Enjoy!

http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs....ll.aspx

Also on your last comment England should try and look for talent among immigrents ect... Most of Germany's best players are actually from other nations. Klose and Podolski are both Polish and Ozili is Turkish. But the whole system needs changing from the bottom up.

by **SeaofRed** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:27 pm

Cheers Bav and with regards to your comments, Ozil was born in Germany and Podolski and Klose were either born in Germany or have German nationality due to living in Germany for x number of years.

We could have had Carlo Cudicini at one point as our keeper, but for some reason he was never bought in from the international wilderness.

by **tubby** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:30 pm

I believe we could also have Mikel Arteta.

by **SeaofRed** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:33 pm

bavlondon wrote:I believe we could also have Mikel Arteta.

Has he never played an International match for Spain? :oh:

by **tubby** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:38 pm

SeaofRed wrote:
bavlondon wrote:I believe we could also have Mikel Arteta.

Has he never played an International match for Spain?

I think not... someone will of course correct me if im wrong but I don't think he has ever been capped at senior level.

by **mart** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:42 pm

Big Niall wrote:funny world cup - kaka,messi,ronaldo,rooney,torres, did very litte - 1 goal between them I think.

Time running out for a star to perform, Torres has 3 games left (max), maybe he can do a Paolo Rossi?

Torres didnt do much in Euro 2008 before the final either. Perhaps he will do the same here.

by **SeaofRed** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:43 pm

Get him in the England team, he has more technical ability than any English player plying their trade in the Premiership. :laugh:

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