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[bigmick]

But surely you can.... ah feck it mate, no bother Like I say I believe the bloke on Rawk is telling the truth as well, I was merely trying to get you to see that there was perhaps a bit of inconsistency in your attitude to rumours depending on whether you liked what they said or not.

No bother though.

[heimdall]

His wife can be in the country - its a permanent working visa she cant get yet which is the normal . There is nothing stopping his wife being in this country . His agent is sh.it stirring .

How do you know this mate? Is it because of the fella's post on Rawk? If it is, you can't really have it both ways to be totally fair. You've spent the whole of the Alonso saga pouring scorn on any rumours which don't fit in with your agenda, so you can hardly grab this unsubstantiated insight from the fella on Rawk and speak of it as though it's gospel.

As it turns out, the fella on Rawk sounds totally believeable to me, it all makes sense I reckon. On the other hand though, I believe the rumours that Alonso is seriously considering fecking off as well.

As you have stated mate its all been explained about the visa better by that lad from RAWK hence why i think its the agent sh.it stirring .

What agenda do i have mick ? if i believed every rumour and every journo was right so far we would of had etoo,silva,parker plus many many others and we wouldnt have xabi and masher in our team but yet there they are with the squad masher already played a part in one game and i reckon xabi will play a bit later .

Madrdi want Xabi - Rafa says pay top dollar or he stays - Rafa has stated he doesnt want to sell hence why putting a high price on him .

simples.

But you understand my point? You can't realitically dismiss all rumours which have come out about Alonso on the grounds that there's "no quotes from the player or manager" and then grab this particular rumour (which is purely an unproven stab on a rival site) and treat is as gospel simply because it fits in with your stance. We either give credibility to some rumours or we don't.

Just to reiterate, I think the lad is probably on the money as well, but I have been known to believe the odd rumour  .

mate I'd give up trying to convince GYBS of something after he's made his mind up, it's like a broken pencil, "pointless".

Of course this bloke on RAWK, who nobody knows, is totally believable whereas all the journos in the world aren't, in GYBS's world that is just a fact and not open to debate at all.

[heimdall]

I can dismiss any rumour i feel mick as i have seen 99.99% of them to turn out to be utter b.o.llocks mick so will believe actual things as opposed to press rumours mick .

So you admit that you pick and choose which rumours to believe in then, to fit your agenda. 

[GYBS]

The bloke on RAWK is believable because he is talking facts. Facts that can easily be proved by the home office website - go check it out and you can find in their all about visas for workers and families .

ANd read my posts again Heimdall where i state - I BELIEVE ACTUAL THINGS (IE FACTS) AS OPPOSED TO RUMOURS IN THE PRESS

[bigmick]

Mate you don't need to go on a Home Office website to check out what he's saying. If Masherano has an Italian passport then obviously his spouse is entitled to live in the UK the same as him. It's just that nobody as far as I've ever heard has ever mentioned him having this document in the past.

As I say again though, I do believe the bloke is telling the truth. It is however only a rumour, unless somebody has proof.

[Ola Mr Benitez]

Its nothing to do whether his wife CAN stay in the country.  Its to do with the fact she doesnt WANT to stay in the country.

Its got to be hard on Mascha if his wife and kids are living outside the UK whilst he's stuck in playing X Box on his own every night!

[ElNino9]

It would be a shame to see Masch have 2 leave coz of family reasons.

[Roger Red Hat]

yeah, bet the wench is happy enough come pay day every week - money grabbing home sick whore!

[heimdall]

The bloke on RAWK is believable because he is talking facts. Facts that can easily be proved by the home office website - go check it out and you can find in their all about visas for workers and families .

ANd read my posts again Heimdall where i state - I BELIEVE ACTUAL THINGS (IE FACTS) AS OPPOSED TO RUMOURS IN THE PRESS

No, you believe rumours that support your agenda while pouring scorn on anybody else who believes a rumour which goes against your point of view, it's not cool GYBS it's not cool at all. I pity people who can't admit when they're wrong, it's a huge sign of weakness in my book, you're not Japanese are you and it's all about not loosing face etc?

[Festy]

Guys, guys, why are we discussing Masch and GYBS in Alonso thread ? It's a million dollar question.

[heimdall]

Its nothing to do whether his wife CAN stay in the country.  Its to do with the fact she doesnt WANT to stay in the country.

Its got to be hard on Mascha if his wife and kids are living outside the UK whilst he's stuck in playing X Box on his own every night!

Of course she can stay in the country when her husband is employed, if he plays for us long enough she can even apply for British citizenship if she wants but in any case if she has an Italian passport then it's all groovy anyway.

it's more a case of her not wanting to stay and if that's the case then it's hard to change and Mascha is probably getting some serious grief poor guy

[heimdall]

Guys, guys, why are we discussing Masch and GYBS in Alonso thread ? It's a million dollar question.

We are discussing GYBS because i think we all agree that he is so damned annoying and Mascha because he is kind of in the same boat as Alonso, or is that just my take on things. 

[Bammo]

If he's annoying then ignore him.

Anyone have any news about Xabi playing today?

[ElNino9]

He's not gonna play, he apparentely has a 'minor injury.' I think he's waiting for Madrid to make a new offer.

[NANNY RED]

If he's annoying then ignore him.

Anyone have any news about Xabi playing today?

Well according to Rafa hes fit to play, but maybe only a few minutes , only two doubts yossie an Johnson,