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[ckay]

Who was/is the best manager. Is is Sven, clough, Fergie or O'neil. I'm not looking for the guy who win the league by having £100 million to spend year in and out but the guy who has done it at most clubs and done with money or gargin basement deals.

[woof woof !]

Who was/is the best manager. Is is Sven, clough, Fergie or O'neil. I'm not looking for the guy who win the league by having £100 million to spend year in and out but the guy who has done it at most clubs and done with money or gargin basement deals.

Based on your criteria I would have to go for Clough with Notts Forest.
Outside of your criteria (and it hurts to say this) I would go for Ferguson. His record speaks for itself. 

[Woollyback]

Paisley

I'm not biased, honest   

[woof woof !]

Paisley

I'm not biased, honest   

   
We were talking about managers not GODS 

[Big Niall]

Winning the league with Derby and notts forest, and two European cups back to back.

Has to be clough! although I don't think he'd be able to handle big clubs and big players.

The only other contender is Ferguson, Ferguson did amazing stuff at Aberdeen, making them the number 1 team in Scotland, then showed he can do it at a bigISH club in England.

In 5 years time, Wenger might have a claim, we'll see.

While not knocking Paisley, he took over the best team in the country.

[Woollyback]

While not knocking Paisley, he took over the best team in the country.

Paisley improved on perfection.

That is the ultimate achievement.

[woof woof !]

While not knocking Paisley, he took over the best team in the country.

Paisley improved on perfection.

That is the ultimate achievement.

From the "holy trinity" Shankley, Paisley and Dalgleish any one who was there will tell you that the era under Paisley was the greatest .WoolyB is spot on Bob improved on perfection . We where in a league of our own. Madrid,Milan,Bayern,Arsenal and the rest sh*t themselves if our name came out the hat. We where a footballing machine . A Red Rolls Royce, deadly as a spitfire, tough as a tank.You could put your wage packet on us winning games . I did it all the time but could never get much better than odds on or evens.
Under Bob we were the team everybody wanted to be.

[Owzat]

I'd say Wenger in spite of his awful tactics in the FA Cup match. For all the quality he has in his team he hasn't wasted too much money and has a brilliant side, especially given some of the fees paid :-

Henry - £10.5m
Pires - £6.0m
Vieira - £3.5m
Ljungberg - £3.2m
Toure - free (?)
Campbell - free

and left.....

Anelka - £500k
Overmars - £7.0m

I have been selective, but the fact that he got such quality players at such relative bargain prices is fantastic (relative to their current worth and potential sell on fee). There have been awful buys like Jeffers, Wright, but two doubles in five years more than makes amends for any cr@p he has bought. He even made mighty profits on some of the players he sold (Anelka, Overmars, Petit.......)

[JBG]

I would say one from Paisley, Clough and Shankly.

Clough was a fantastic manager, his achievements remarkable.

Alex Ferguson is a great manager, but the following must be remembered:

1. He was lucky that Man UTD stuck by him for so long at the start of his Old Trafford career otherwise he'd probably be still in Scotland managing someone like Dundee UTD.

2. Man UTD dominated the English game finanically after 1994 and Ferguson always had loads of cash to spend.

3. Despite his brilliant domestic success he only has one European Cup to his name despite the massive financial power of the club.

He's an excellent manager but he's not the super human Man UTD fans make him out to be. If he was, he would have won another couple of European Cups. I think that says it all.

Currently I think Arsene Wenger slightly shades it over Ferguson, although Wenger needs to win big in Europe.

[115-1073096938]

JBG i can't stand Ferguson mate but you're being ridiculously harsh.

He is one of the best, he IS up there with Shankley, Paisley and Clough. I don't know much about the others but i know Ferguson is an amazing manager. Everything he's won he deserves, he's an absoloute genius. Simple as that.

[DrLiverpool]

@owzat
your right there about making money. He bought Anelka for 500,000 and sld him for 23000000 which is a nice amount of profit. I didnt know vieira was bought for 3.5mil what a deal.

My vote goes to O'Neill he has done an excellent job at Celtic with hardly any money + he bought Larsson for 500,000 and he has scored over 500 goals for them.
It would be great to see him at Anfield next season (as the manager ofcourse).

[DrLiverpool]

I cannot believe ferguson is being praised on a liverpool site its a joke i'd praise moyes and everton before i praise fergie and the rest of the united scum.

I'm disappointed in all of those who praised ferguson.

[Supermarius]

ah but becos we respect the bastid-doesnt mean we have to like him!
  Id say Clough too..he brought his Forest team up from the old second division..and we s##t ourselves lol if anyone can remember his team bootin us out of europe...still remember bawling my lamps out that night lol oohh takes ya back to the good ol days ah
It wont be too long before Nigel clough is a league manager

[Rimetto]

Drliverpool i thought Larson was already at Celtic when O'neil (<--- Next liverpool manager) arrived?

I'd have to say paisley. He is the reason i'm a liverpool fan. As a young lad watchin liverpool back then was like a constant lesson in how the game of football should be played.

[ckay]

Clough was the best in my book. He should also have been England manager but he couldn't keep his gob shut. He always had to give his opion.

Just a shame it all went bad at the end with getting relegated and always being pi**ed.

He lives not far from me and his family used to tie the dog to him so when he went wondering in the fields behind his home and passed out, they'd know where he was.