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Postby JBG » Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:43 am

I watched the game on telly last night and yes, Moro was sharp and bright at times. As I said early in the thread, I've supported Moro a lot in the past, mostly in debates with Bigmick, but the season is panning out now and Moro's overall performance and goalscoring record this season, particularly when you factor in that the team has been playing really well and he hasn't had too many fitness worries, is below par.
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Postby andy_g » Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:47 am

LiverpoolMadman wrote:Check this out ( esp. Mori )

Sky Sport Liverpool vs Arsenal ( Rating )

oh, well that proves it then.  ???

dunno what game they were watching but i find it hard to agree with many of there scores. but seeing as this is a nando thread i'm also of the opinion that last night he was more effective than he has been for a long time in red. not sparkling, not brilliant, but far from the anonymous displays wse've seen in recent games. he got into some positions and actaully put himself about in the middle of the park a few times winning the odd second ball. now if he can just remember how to set his sights properly we might get a couple of goals out of him.
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Postby onizukaeikichi » Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:49 am

the board should just goddamn give rafa the money to spend on dirk kuyt or torres ( if we ever get him )

if both of them are unsuccessful then can u blame morientes ? basically there times when the player have a bad run of form but so far he contributed a lot , just tat sometimes he's too slow and cant win headers which is weird

i am gonna give him till the end of the season and asess him during the summer

patience guys patience, the window aint open yet to throw  mori out - support him while he's still here
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Postby LiverpoolMadman » Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:59 am

patience guys patience, the window aint open yet to throw mori out


I do agree that if he cant perform , he should go but that will be 1 millons light years to go, we cant wait.

My point is simple , we all have seen PC and RF, Mori and RF , and they dont produces GOALS as a Strikers.

RAFA should try CISSE and RF from very 1st min of the game , NOT Cisse playing in RM, NOT Cisse played only 10 min to end .

PLAY THEM and I belived we all will see a better result .
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Postby banana » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:04 am

There is no excuse for missing chances like Morientes did last night. And this has been going on for a long time. It is time to get rid of the garbage, starting with Morientes.
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Postby Sabre » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:20 am

We have already seen PC and Fowler ( NO GOALS from them ) , Mori and Fowler ( NO GOALS from them too ) and I think that Cisse should given a chance to play with Fowler, both as a striker.


You said that yesterday.

You can't possibly say we haven't still seen Cisse playing, I do remember lots of games with him. It's allright you support Cisse, but this attitude of yours is beyond support and in the realms of chauvinism.

And yes Theoracle, I wanted those all season stats, but don't worry, I'll dig a bit on the internet later.
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Postby God-23 » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:34 am

i am just as frustrated as everyone else with nando but i dont think our game suits his personal game,if we were swingin in crosses from the by line say 15-20 times a game i think nando would score week in week out,but its not happening...altho sayin that he needs to be hungry for goals which he didn't look like he was last night...robbie is supposed to be the unfit one but done a helluva lot more work than nando last night...soooooooo frustrating
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Postby anfieldadorer » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:57 am

RUSHIE#9 wrote:Agreed that Moro isn't doing much to make the record keepers at anfield very busy and I myself have started to lose my wrag with him after being a staunch supporter of his. However i think describing him as the worst striker to wear the shirt as a bit too far - have you forgotten such LEGENDS as Sean Dundee and Eric Meijer both Liverpool greats :p ???

i said the worst MAIN striker
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Postby Alanay » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:57 am

He would have got his hatrick last nite easily.. but he's far better then he had been for the past few weeks...
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Postby el_stinger » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:04 am

LiverpoolMadman wrote:
Yeah because the last 2 games they have played together, the team have lost......rrrriiight!


OK we win but its our defender ( hypia ) and our Garcia ( Midfield ) score the goal. Bottomline we all want all of our strikers  score goals , dont we ?

We have already seen PC and Fowler ( NO GOALS from them ) , Mori and Fowler ( NO GOALS from them too ) and I think that Cisse should given a chance to play with Fowler, both as a striker.

You forgot Cissy, NO GOALS!!
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Postby supersub » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:12 am

I'm disappointed with a lot of the posts on this thread.It's clear the vast majority were not at the game and maybe a minority actually caught sky tv or possibly only limited highlights.
     Morientes had a decent game last night which sadly was not capped by a goal.Granted he missed a couple of chances but his runs and movement complimented the way Robbie Fowler plays.I actually believe that the best partner for Fowler is Morientes because they do play with intelligence,whereas Cisse plays like a petulant school kid.I'm not saying this is the answer to our scoring problems,but I do feel we have to allow this partnership to develop to reap the rewards.
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Postby JBG » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:21 am

supersub wrote:I'm disappointed with a lot of the posts on this thread.It's clear the vast majority were not at the game and maybe a minority actually caught sky tv or possibly only limited highlights.
     Morientes had a decent game last night which sadly was not capped by a goal.Granted he missed a couple of chances but his runs and movement complimented the way Robbie Fowler plays.I actually believe that the best partner for Fowler is Morientes because they do play with intelligence,whereas Cisse plays like a petulant school kid.I'm not saying this is the answer to our scoring problems,but I do feel we have to allow this partnership to develop to reap the rewards.

Look, I'm a Moro supporter (look at the thread in Advanced Debate where I've argued the toss with BigMick) but would you agree supersub that Arsenal at Anfield would be more in the style of a continental or even Champions League game than your bog standard Premiership match, and that Moro is patently more cut out for European games than Premiership games?

I've stood up for Moro in the past when most others were attacking him, but even I cannot defend his scoring record and general lack of overall contribution this season, when he doesn't really have many excuses, given that he has been fit for most of the season and he has been playing in a good team making chances.

He has the remainder of the season to prove himself, but if there isn't much of an improvement even supporters like me will have to accept that we're wrong on Nando.

Come on Nando, score some goals, I don't want Bigmick to say "Told you so"!  :D
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Postby Sabre » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:37 am

I cannot defend his scoring record and general lack of overall contribution this season, when he doesn't really have many excuses, given that he has been fit for most of the season and he has been playing in a good team making chances


And this can't be applied to Crouch, why? ??? For me both of them do a good job and just lack that scoring, but I can't see Crouch giving us much more than Moro, to be honest.

Not to mention Cisse, and all his complaining-personal issues.
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Postby wee_boi888 » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:37 am

LiverpoolMadman wrote:
patience guys patience, the window aint open yet to throw mori out


I do agree that if he cant perform , he should go but that will be 1 millons light years to go, we cant wait.

My point is simple , we all have seen PC and RF, Mori and RF , and they dont produces GOALS as a Strikers.

RAFA should try CISSE and RF from very 1st min of the game , NOT Cisse playing in RM, NOT Cisse played only 10 min to end .

PLAY THEM and I belived we all will see a better result .

Obviously your football knowledge and general knowledge is below par.

Majority of people know that light years measure distance not time.

I agree with JBG. Rafa has given every striker a chance to probe himself and as the saying goes, form is temporary, class is permanent. Big Mick does have his valid points, but they can be put on the basis of form. His positioning and linkup is still there - and we all know that his finishing may not be up to scratch. I still think that Rafa wants him to play that support role, the knockdowns for other players to to gain scoring oppurtunities. Thats how we played him earlier in the season. However, Rafa has prob seen he is not a physical player to play that role.

If he gets his strength up he can play the crouchesque type role. But atm his goalscoring form has been off..for a long time i know, but it can't have disappeared forever.
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Postby andy_g » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:38 am

JBG wrote:Look, I'm a Moro supporter (look at the thread in Advanced Debate where I've argued the toss with BigMick) but would you agree supersub that Arsenal at Anfield would be more in the style of a continental or even Champions League game than your bog standard Premiership match, and that Moro is patently more cut out for European games than Premiership games?

its a decent point, ex-klink - and a question we should review if he starts the benfica game. arsenal are, these days, one of the least physical sides in the premiership but that is allied with a pretty disorganised and weak by their standards defence. maybe it was that that helped more than the style of play.
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