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[f9Torres]

Again, Torres = God.

P.D. And, is he the best striker in the world nowadays? yes he is.

[maguskwt]

It's football, it's not that sad. In football there are archenemies. I dislike Bilbao, I dislike R.Madrid, and thirdly, I dislike Atletico.

That doesn't mean I want any kind of harm to their fans nor I hate them. It's just the institution the one you want to lose, the one you boo harder in the stadium, but nothing to do with violence or bad will.

I still preffer At Madrid rather than Bilbao, the dirty cúnts. 

Tell me Sabre about Torres' performance on set pieces and peno in Spain. One of our main weakness has been on set pieces and I was just wondering whether El Nino with his finishing could not be better than Aurelio or Riise. On the other hand he should be given more opportunities on Penos as well since most of the guys ahead of goals in the league take penalties.

for me I don't care about him taking penalties just to pump up his goal tally... if he's not under pressure and scoring freely in open play that's more important... if he feels like taking penalty then he will... he's a striker after all and he wouldn't be too bad at taking them...

[ConnO'var]

It's football, it's not that sad. In football there are archenemies. I dislike Bilbao, I dislike R.Madrid, and thirdly, I dislike Atletico.

That doesn't mean I want any kind of harm to their fans nor I hate them. It's just the institution the one you want to lose, the one you boo harder in the stadium, but nothing to do with violence or bad will.

I still preffer At Madrid rather than Bilbao, the dirty cúnts. 

Tell me Sabre about Torres' performance on set pieces and peno in Spain. One of our main weakness has been on set pieces and I was just wondering whether El Nino with his finishing could not be better than Aurelio or Riise. On the other hand he should be given more opportunities on Penos as well since most of the guys ahead of goals in the league take penalties.

for me I don't care about him taking penalties just to pump up his goal tally... if he's not under pressure and scoring freely in open play that's more important... if he feels like taking penalty then he will... he's a striker after all and he wouldn't be too bad at taking them...

Me neither maguskwt...

Just imagine... if he won the scoring title without taking penalties in his 1st season in the premiership... how good would that be?

[Toffeehater]

It's football, it's not that sad. In football there are archenemies. I dislike Bilbao, I dislike R.Madrid, and thirdly, I dislike Atletico.

That doesn't mean I want any kind of harm to their fans nor I hate them. It's just the institution the one you want to lose, the one you boo harder in the stadium, but nothing to do with violence or bad will.

I still preffer At Madrid rather than Bilbao, the dirty cúnts. 

Tell me Sabre about Torres' performance on set pieces and peno in Spain. One of our main weakness has been on set pieces and I was just wondering whether El Nino with his finishing could not be better than Aurelio or Riise. On the other hand he should be given more opportunities on Penos as well since most of the guys ahead of goals in the league take penalties.

for me I don't care about him taking penalties just to pump up his goal tally... if he's not under pressure and scoring freely in open play that's more important... if he feels like taking penalty then he will... he's a striker after all and he wouldn't be too bad at taking them...

Me neither maguskwt...

Just imagine... if he won the scoring title without taking penalties in his 1st season in the premiership... how good would that be?

better then ronaldo in terms of penalties , he missed one against west ham and they lost 

[Sabre]

For anyone wondering what Stu thinks about Torres

Stu - dice:
Fernando Torres  (smile)
Stu - dice:
(nodding)
IVAN dice:
He's not good enough. He'll never be.
Stu - dice:
  (laughs)
IVAN dice:
(more laughs)
Stu - dice:
he's fúcking immense
IVAN dice:
yeh, this season.
Stu - dice:
what a player
Stu - dice:
what a player
IVAN dice:
yep. I'm impressed.
Stu - dice:
he won me 75 euro's yesterday too 
Stu - dice:
1-0 liverpool torres to score
Stu - dice:
1-0 liverpool torres to score
IVAN dice:
congratulations!
Stu - dice:
easily one of the best players in the world ivan

Looks like he wouldn't swap him for Ashton

[JoeTerp]

whats  up with this quote:

IVAN dice:
yeh, this season.

[Sabre]

I like to wind him up

[JoeTerp]

something like this?   

[The Manhattan Project]

For anyone wondering what Stu thinks about Torres

Stu - dice:
Fernando Torres  (smile)
Stu - dice:
(nodding)
IVAN dice:
He's not good enough. He'll never be.
Stu - dice:
  (laughs)
IVAN dice:
(more laughs)
Stu - dice:
he's fúcking immense
IVAN dice:
yeh, this season.
Stu - dice:
what a player
Stu - dice:
what a player
IVAN dice:
yep. I'm impressed.
Stu - dice:
he won me 75 euro's yesterday too 
Stu - dice:
1-0 liverpool torres to score
Stu - dice:
1-0 liverpool torres to score
IVAN dice:
congratulations!
Stu - dice:
easily one of the best players in the world ivan

Looks like he wouldn't swap him for Ashton

Dean Ashton?

The blonde fat freak who plays for West Beef?

[SupitsJonF]

I wonder if Torres and Ronaldo's tallys are equal at the end of the season, if Rafa woud allow Torres to take a pk to win it?

[god_bless_john_houlding]

Torres has the same record as Ronaldo in terms of goals against the other big three. Both have one and Torres has done it fewer games. Surprisingly Pennant has the same total of goals against the top sides, always said he was a great player   Peter Crouch however has scored against ALL of the top three sides. Peter Crouch, best forward around

[f9Torres]

Agüero? can you think in another team?

[Toffeehater]

Dirk Kuyt: Fernando Torres will only get better and better

Mar 13 2008 By Paul Walker, Liverpool Daily Post
FERNANDO TORRES is worth every penny of his £20million transfer fee, according to Liverpool team-mate Dirk Kuyt.

The Dutchman said: "Fernando is just special. It is amazing to score this many goals in his first season in England. He is getting them in the league and in Europe, he is doing a great job for the team.

"He will only get better and better. Other teams now are very worried by him, but you could see with the way he put away what was virtually only his one chance of the night just how dangerous he is.

"The rest of the players seem to think he will score in every game, and the way it is going, that is starting to happen."

Full-back Fabio Aurelio was one of the stars of Liverpool's defence as they became only the second team to beat Inter at home this season.

He said: "It is unbelievable how things have gone for us. We believe in ourselves, and all of us are very happy. We should be congratulating ourselves.

"The red card they suffered will be viewed as a critical point, but we were controlling the game before that.

"It was important, but we were already 2-0 ahead from the first leg and we were the best team then as well. What was the real key was the goal that Fernando scored, it finished them off.

"Now it will be more difficult in the next round. There are three other English sides, but Barcelona and Roma too. We know we will have to prepare very well, but we are confident."

Midfielder Javier Mascherano had another outstanding game, outshining a host of Argentina international colleagues for Inter.

He said: "This was one of the best this team has achieved. It was amazing for the players, for the supporters and for everyone at the club.

"Now we want to progress in this competition. We are playing well and confidence is high so we have to keep up our form.

"It does not matter who we get next. It will be a difficult game for us but it will also be a difficult game for them.

After a result like this, we have to believe that we can go further in the competition."

He added: "It is all about working really hard for one another and playing as a team. That is the only way you can get results like we have had against teams like Barcelona and Inter Milan. Liverpool is one of the best clubs in the world so we have to prove this on the pitch.

"The history of the club is so special, everyone around the world knows the history and we have a very good record in Europe. We are just doing our best to try and create more history."

Inter defender Javier Zanetti, one of Mascherano's compatriots, said: "The ball just wouldn't go in for us. And in games like this, you must take your opportunities.

"But our season has not finished yet, we still have the chance to win the title, and we still want to win the Italian Cup."

Former Arsenal star Patrick Viera, outplayed by Mascherano and Steven Gerrard, emphasised the strength of English game.

He said: "When you get to the last eight, anyone can win it. And having four of those last eight, England have an outstanding chance of doing so - it shows how good English football is.

[Koppite_Tom]

David Villa generally doesn'tr work that well with Torres internationally, so why would it be any different at Liverpool?

As they would play regular. At international level they play alongside each other and not regular as that lad we got shot of is playing well. .......What was his name again

No they possibly will not shed out all that money but hey yet again they are my thoughts so.

Personally i think if we were able to get Villa he would be a brilliant signing and as you say week in week out they most probably would get to know each others styles better. I can't see it happening though.

[Toffeehater]

Fernando Torres: The best finisher on the globe?



I was rather hoping that this would be yet another season in which we could gleefully wallow in the many weaknesses of Liverpool.

But whilst the club has had a torrid time off the pitch and continues to idle in the Premier League, they somehow keep pulling off big wins in the Champions League. After a slow start in this year’s competition, they have just completed back-to-back victories when it most matters.

For all Rafa’s contentious decision-making, he does seem to have a great understanding of how to match and beat some of the finest teams in Europe.

Perhaps the overall lack of quality in the squad will tell in the latter stages but one player who will doubtless end the season with his reputation enhanced is Fernando Torres. After successive Anfield hat-tricks, he scored the winning goal in the away tie at Inter Milan on Tuesday evening.

If his scoring tally of 26 is impressive, the manner in which he has scored these goals is breathtaking.


Torres had long been linked with some of the biggest names in club football, but when he finally became available last summer, few were willing to take the plunge at £27m. Some pundits have said that this was perhaps due to his modest scoring exploits in Spain.

Although he was a regular scorer, he was thought by some to need lots of chances to score relatively few goals. I for one never doubted the quality of the player and was surprised that Liverpool were the only overt bidders for his signature. A mere glance at Torres in the 2006 World Cup told you all you needed to know about his potential suitability to the English game. But I never expected him to become quite such a good finisher.

You seldom see Torres with easy opportunities in front of goal, but it is even more rare to see him miss the target from anything less than 20 yards. His finish against Inter on Tuesday was quite superb. The defender gave him what he thought to be a safe amount of space, but Torres simply turned and struck in one movement. It was a half-chance to most strikers but a gilt-edged opportunity for someone in Torres’ form.

As the season has progressed, Liverpool have often stumbled, but the Spaniard has constantly impressed with his speed, strength, balance and composure in front of the posts. With each passing week his shooting accuracy (with both feet) has improved to a now deadly level. You have to wonder how many goals, even the very best of the rest in the Premier League, would score in a Liverpool side which hasn’t otherwise noticeably improved for the last three years.

Would Rooney score 26 goals in this Liverpool side? Drogba? Adebayor? I’m not sure they would get near Torres’ total because whilst all three are great forwards, they all receive better service at their respective clubs than they could realistically expect to receive at Anfield.

Torres’ record is even more impressive when you consider that this is his first season in England.

    Can any of the continent’s other top strikers claim to be as good an out-and-out finisher as Torres?

He makes so many chances for himself and feeds off scraps at other times. He is quite simply frightening in front of goal. Conversely, let us consider for a moment how many goals Torres might score at any of the other top four clubs in England. Long-term admirer Sir Alex Ferguson must surely feel he has missed a trick, whilst Arsene Wenger must drool at the way in which Torres moves, his consummate composure and clinical use of the ball. So is there really a better finisher in world football than Fernando Torres?

Ruud Van Nistelrooy must still be up there, but he is not the man he once was and lacks the pace to continue at the top beyond next season. Dimitar Berbatov shows regular glimpses of world-class but surely isn’t quite as deadly in front of goal.

Ibrahimovic lacks the power/precison combo to be put in the same bracket. Cristiano Ronaldo has scored even more goals than Torres but still couldn’t claim to have scored from quite as many shots to nothing as the Spaniard.

Rooney is just as crucial to United as Torres to Liverpool, but the Scouser needs more chances than his counterpart. Anelka shone at Bolton but hasn’t scored many at Chelsea. David Villa. Definitely not. Henry? Still a great player but no longer as prolific.

The list goes on and has only touched upon the wealth of talent in the Spanish and Italian leagues, but while each of the players mentioned have a healthy complement of qualities, can any of them claim to be as good an out-and-out finisher as Torres?

Even a club of Liverpool’s size might struggle to keep Torres in the summer because he is just about as good as strikers get, and at 23, there is surely much more to come from the ice-cool boy from Madrid.