by GunGod » Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:37 pm
Hey faithy,
I am being very objective here. Regarding your point about Garcia faking it, I really, really beg to differ. Welsh is a bigger man than Garcia, looking upon the impact when he crashed into Garcia, and the fact that Garcia was already losing his balance anyway after tussling with another Sun defender, it's harsh to say that he took a dive. He definitely did not make a meal out of it either. He just got up and got into position, waiting for play to start again. But who knows, the linesman thought differently. If there's anyone you can blame, its the linesman, not Garcia.
And also,I do feel that somehow Welsh got himself sent off. If you have any chance to look at replays, immediately after he crashed into Garcia, look at his body language and expression. Observe how smug he looked, and how he stared at the fallen body of Garcia with a hostile expression. That's probably what led the linesman to think that Welsh knocked Garcia off purposely, and with malice.
That said, I do symphatize with you that Welsh still did not do enough to get sent off. And the card will probably be retracted.
On the other side, to say that your side did not deserve to lose is...hmmm.... a bit too hard to accept. You might say if only Brown stuck his leg out, if only carra wasn't there etc. Well, we can also say if only the post wasn't in the way of gerrad's early cross into the box. if only cisse stuck a 'good' leg out (twice) etc etc. if nando and zenden sent their headers on target after being left unmarked. So you see, you really can't judge how a game would have been with examples like these. And oh, if only Gerrard played the whole game, then probably he would have made sure of a good result and save us all from this debate.
Nevertheless, I implore fellow Liverpool members to stop bringing up "WE ARE THE EURO CHAMPIONS -- NAY NAY NEE BOO BOO" every now and then. That's in the past..let's move on to greater things. If you want to have a good discussion with someone, base your discussion on what you are discussing. Dont conveniently drag out the fact that we're Euro champions.
Lot of fans in this forum are getting a bit swollen headed. Be modest, be nice. That's what Liverpool fans are always about. Faith has come here with no ill intentions except for letting out some of his frustration at getting a man sent off for nothing.We should understand that. We shouldn't jump on him, nor should we (which some of you obviously do) look down on him just bcos "he's sunderland, I'm euro champion".
Euro Champ won't count for nothing if we cant get good results every week. Show your opponent the same respect they have always show pool supporters. Dont let success get to your heads, otherwise how different will we be from manure?