Right midfield - Who would you buy?

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Postby Bad Bob » Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:43 pm

mattylfc wrote:The reason i asked the question is because me and my mate couldnt really think of too many options to be honest.

You can put me in that category as well, mate.  How many right midfielders are there out there who are: a) good enough, b) affordable given our budget constraints and c) interested in playing for us?  Not many, I would wager.  The grass is always greener when a player like Pennant is struggling but there aren't that many realistic replacements kicking about.  We just don't have the kind of dosh to splash out on a truly big name, otherwise I think we might have done this summer: Rafa clearly rated Alves but we couldn't put the money together to make it happen.  As such, I seriously doubt we'll be going out and buying a Joaquin, Ribery or even a SWP* in January. 

So, replacing Pennant looks like it might require a similar pragmatic (i.e. bargain basement) approach.  Trouble is, having been 'burned' with Pennant, I think most of us aren't that thrilled with the idea of settling for second best and/or taking another gamble.  Personally, I think Zoltan Gera might be worth another look but, again, would he be able to make what is, in reality, a big step up?  There's always the "aging veterans" who can do a job floating around the league (Stelios?) but those signings are hardly going to get the heart racing and constitute a signal of real intent, are they?  And Gonzales is showing why promising youngsters plying their trade in other leagues aren't likely to be a short-term solution to our current midfield problems--getting acclimatized can take quite a long time.

So, unless the Board backs Rafa with a significant wedge of cash and unless there is a truly quality right-sided player out there desperate to make the move to Liverpool mid-season, I think we're stuck with Pennant until at least the summer.


*While talented, I think the hype surrounding Wright Phillips has far outstripped the actual ability.  What, exactly, has he achieved in the game?  A few good seasons as the stand-out player in a very pedestrian City side, a big money contract to sit on Chelsea's bench (maybe a deal done more to keep him out of the competition's reach anyway) and a few decent performances for England and suddenly he's the dog's bollox?  Don't think so.  I would have serious questions about his mental sharpness after all that time rotting in Chelsea's reserves and with all the pressure to perform after his 'flop' at the Bridge (much like Duff, at the moment).  Plus, he was only a very raw talent when he made the move to Chelsea and he sure as hell hasn't had much of an opportunity to hone his skills there.  I'll just say it: I don't think he'd offer us much more than Pennant does, TBH.
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:45 pm

Just hold your horses on the who should we buy, any possible takeover will have everyone speculating about god knows who.

I understand its pretty close, and that will I reckon mean at least £30m in the Jan transfer budget.
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Postby Ade » Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:00 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:
Ade wrote:Hate to say this, but just before we signed Morientes I posted a topic headed 'Wright-Phillips or a striker?'

Had a fair debate on here, but general consensus was a striker was more important and so we went for Morientes. Even then i felt it was the time to go for SWP, as we had a reasonable chance of getting him for about £12m - Ian Wright, if i remember rightly, was telling the lad he'd get more of a chance to shine with us than at Chelsea. Obviously Citeh were after the highest bidder and Chelsea were gonna outbid us, but i think we and his dad could have swayed him.


I also thought then that there's always more chance of signing effective strikers than specialist right wingers, who are fairly thin on the ground, not least cos in Europe they tend to play either wing backs or more narrow and through the middle. He was the last decent English right winger up for grabs. We've got no chance of getting him off CFC now and Lennon is now worth even more.

Pennant is not and never will be Liverpool class.

Anyone know how far Anderson is away from making the grade?

So Rafa read your thread and then decided who to buy ?

Fu.ck Off.

you're a sad piece of work Leon

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But if you've got nothing interesting to say then shut the :censored: up
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Postby 67-1161385641 » Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:05 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:Just hold your horses on the who should we buy, any possible takeover will have everyone speculating about god knows who.

I understand its pretty close, and that will I reckon mean at least £30m in the Jan transfer budget.

That's an acceptable budget; I thought it would be unlimited like Chelsea's.  :no

Saint, you're correct Real Madrid and Man Utd did enquire, so they came forward made their interest known if Xabi wanted to go to Real Madrid or United the chances are they would made an offer and he would of signed for them, but he was interested in coming to Liverpool and signed. Xabi wanted to come to Liverpool, so he came to Liverpool, end of story. You're right about Alves, he did sign a new contract, he is obviously happy at Sevilla, but I was only giving an example. If Alves handed in a transfer request tomorrow and us and Chelsea both bided for Alves and he wanted to come to Liverpool, it wouldn't matter how much Chelsea offer him or how much Chelsea offered Sevilla.
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:17 pm

Ade wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:
Ade wrote:Hate to say this, but just before we signed Morientes I posted a topic headed 'Wright-Phillips or a striker?'

Had a fair debate on here, but general consensus was a striker was more important and so we went for Morientes. Even then i felt it was the time to go for SWP, as we had a reasonable chance of getting him for about £12m - Ian Wright, if i remember rightly, was telling the lad he'd get more of a chance to shine with us than at Chelsea. Obviously Citeh were after the highest bidder and Chelsea were gonna outbid us, but i think we and his dad could have swayed him.


I also thought then that there's always more chance of signing effective strikers than specialist right wingers, who are fairly thin on the ground, not least cos in Europe they tend to play either wing backs or more narrow and through the middle. He was the last decent English right winger up for grabs. We've got no chance of getting him off CFC now and Lennon is now worth even more.

Pennant is not and never will be Liverpool class.

Anyone know how far Anderson is away from making the grade?

So Rafa read your thread and then decided who to buy ?

Fu.ck Off.

you're a sad piece of work Leon

Sometimes your posts are good, always passionate, often a good insight into what's going on.

But if you've got nothing interesting to say then shut the :censored: up

You where saying.
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Postby Ade » Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:29 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:
Ade wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:
Ade wrote:Hate to say this, but just before we signed Morientes I posted a topic headed 'Wright-Phillips or a striker?'

Had a fair debate on here, but general consensus was a striker was more important and so we went for Morientes. Even then i felt it was the time to go for SWP, as we had a reasonable chance of getting him for about £12m - Ian Wright, if i remember rightly, was telling the lad he'd get more of a chance to shine with us than at Chelsea. Obviously Citeh were after the highest bidder and Chelsea were gonna outbid us, but i think we and his dad could have swayed him.


I also thought then that there's always more chance of signing effective strikers than specialist right wingers, who are fairly thin on the ground, not least cos in Europe they tend to play either wing backs or more narrow and through the middle. He was the last decent English right winger up for grabs. We've got no chance of getting him off CFC now and Lennon is now worth even more.

Pennant is not and never will be Liverpool class.

Anyone know how far Anderson is away from making the grade?

So Rafa read your thread and then decided who to buy ?

Fu.ck Off.

you're a sad piece of work Leon

Sometimes your posts are good, always passionate, often a good insight into what's going on.

But if you've got nothing interesting to say then shut the :censored: up

You where saying.

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Postby ivor_the_injun » Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:38 pm

I still think Pennant can turn out to be the solution on the right wing.

Right now he's got no confidence, and full backs are bossing him too easily. It may turn out to be one of those things where he needs a game against a slow defender that he beats almost every time, and then his rhythm will start to come.

In a weird way, he's playing like Kewell did when he was still stricken with the niggles a couple of seasons ago. Never beating his man, sloppy in possession, and poor crossing.

Although right wing seems like a problem position, it's a form thing for me as opposed to an absence of class. Gerrard was having a poor season out there, but it's not because he's not capable of doing it brilliantly. I think that's what we're seeing with Pennant, and to be honest I don't think throwing more money out there is the best call.
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Postby crossy11 » Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:45 pm

I would get a young british talent with the likes of SWP and Lennon. SWP doesn't play 1st team football that often so he could be lacking. I would like to see Lennon at the club. :)
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