Liverpool FC Forum

[Boxscarf]

We need to find a healthy balance between rebuilding and results.  No one is expecting miracles but we can surely expect a top half finish and a couple of decent cup runs.

Kenny achieved that and was still sacked as Liverpool manager, though I suspect that the Suarez v Evra incident had a major impact in Kenny's dismissal.

I want a better finish than last season's 8th place, if we get 7th this season, that's progression in my book and I'll be satisfied with that.

[SouthCoastShankly]

We need to find a healthy balance between rebuilding and results.  No one is expecting miracles but we can surely expect a top half finish and a couple of decent cup runs.

Kenny achieved that and was still sacked as Liverpool manager, though I suspect that the Suarez v Evra incident had a major impact in Kenny's dismissal.

I want a better finish than last season's 8th place, if we get 7th this season, that's progression in my book and I'll be satisfied with that.

Whereas the difference between 8, 9 or 10th place is irrelevant to me. They achieve equally nothing. My mark of success will be the progress of this new squad of players and our ability to challenge competitively next season.

That said a cup run would go down well.

[Boxscarf]

We need improvement in the league, so steady progression of a place or two each season will be satisfactory for me, it will also helps us attract players too. No player worth his salt wants to sign for a club that is content with sitting in and around mid-table season after season. We need to start climbing the table, sooner rather than later.

[the lone wolf]

Listen no one is doubting the importance of results. No one wants to watch a losing football team on the proviso the team is rebuilding. The point of the article and the reasoning behind it is that allowances can be made early on in a rebuilding phase because the rebuilding work is extremely valuable in the long term.

I hate watching us misfire and draw or lose games where we clearly should have won, but the reality is our style is shining through and we are playing well. In my opinion we will get it right eventually, even if this season is a write off. Rodgers will need at least two more transfer windows to bring in players who can strengthen the squad and fill missing gaps.

The last time I was willing to give a manager time to get it right was when Benitez came in. My instinct proved me right then, I have no reason to doubt it again.

What di Benitez have to get right? He inherited a top 4 team that was moving forward. His expertise and knowledge of world forward completed that squads journey. After all the same squad (bar a couple of strikers) one 3 cup competitions in one season - a feet only done once - by us - LFC!

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Listen no one is doubting the importance of results. No one wants to watch a losing football team on the proviso the team is rebuilding. The point of the article and the reasoning behind it is that allowances can be made early on in a rebuilding phase because the rebuilding work is extremely valuable in the long term.

I hate watching us misfire and draw or lose games where we clearly should have won, but the reality is our style is shining through and we are playing well. In my opinion we will get it right eventually, even if this season is a write off. Rodgers will need at least two more transfer windows to bring in players who can strengthen the squad and fill missing gaps.

The last time I was willing to give a manager time to get it right was when Benitez came in. My instinct proved me right then, I have no reason to doubt it again.

What di Benitez have to get right? He inherited a top 4 team that was moving forward. His expertise and knowledge of world forward completed that squads journey. After all the same squad (bar a couple of strikers) one 3 cup competitions in one season - a feet only done once - by us - LFC!

benitez had to get an awful lot right!
the club was in a right state when he took over.
the football in the latter part of geds reign was terrible, our style of play was so bad opposition fans constantly used to chant `hoof` at us. infact our style of play was a running joke throughout the league.
the team was totally devoid of any fight and confidence highlighted by the fact we hadnt over turned a one goal defecit in over two years.
the club itself was skint to the extent that the owner (who had owned us for donkeys) announced that he had to sell the club as the last of his money went on houlliers over priced flops like diouf, diao, cheyrou, biscan etc, all of whom had little or no sell on value.
from the outside we looked like a busted flush, and thats why our 2 most talented players (gerrard and owen) wanted out.
rafa`s first act as liverpool manager was to fly out to the england team hotel during euro 2004 and try to convince gerrard and owen to stay. dont forget he only managed to convince gerrard to stay in the short term, gerrards future was up in the air right through that season and he only commited his future to the club on the pitch in istanbul after the final when he said `how can i leave after this?`
benitez had a huge job on.

[The Hustler]

Complete rubbish.

If results dont matter to the yank owners, why did Kenny get the sack?

Why should unproven Brendan Rodgers get 3 seasons from the yanks?

Doesnt add up.
Who on earth starts these dumb topics!!??

I personally would not trust Rodgers to rebuild with a Lego set.

[The Hustler]

and our ability to challenge competitively next season.
.

So if results do not go well next season, will it be the season after that, or the one after that??

Lol

[Penguins]

Sorry, I don't buy into that logic.
It's just a losers excuse, nothing more.

LFC is club that should be fighting for honours, not involved in rebulding processes.
What more excuses are we going to come up with until we actucally achieve something on the field?

[The Hustler]

Sorry, I don't buy into that logic.
It's just a losers excuse, nothing more.

LFC is club that should be fighting for honours, not involved in rebulding processes.
What more excuses are we going to come up with until we actucally achieve something on the field?

Well said!!  Its some lfc fans who now believe we should be mediocre

Lfc is about success and we should be fighting for honours. No excuses

[Reg]

Complete rubbish.

If results dont matter to the yank owners, why did Kenny get the sack?
Why should unproven Brendan Rodgers get 3 seasons from the yanks?

Doesnt add up.
Who on earth starts these dumb topics!!??

I personally would not trust Rodgers to rebuild with a Lego set.

Are you naturally stupid or do you have to practise?   

[only me]

Sorry, I don't buy into that logic.
It's just a losers excuse, nothing more.

LFC is club that should be fighting for honours, not involved in rebulding processes.
What more excuses are we going to come up with until we actucally achieve something on the field?

Talk about disconnect from reality ,you and hustler's posts show an extreme delusional state. Sober up man.
Unless you get us an Abramovitch type or an oil farter sheikh stop making those stupid arguments. Only Billionaires with no budget restraints can aim for immediate results performance. we are NOT that club or management. We are well positioned financially but we still need a gradual process to mature and compete for real trophies. Are we doing a perfect job? of course not but this is a process ,only those who do ,err. And in case you haven't noticed ,no one owes you anything ,you write juvenile impatient posts.

[SouthCoastShankly]

Complete rubbish.

If results dont matter to the yank owners, why did Kenny get the sack?
Why should unproven Brendan Rodgers get 3 seasons from the yanks?

Doesnt add up.
Who on earth starts these dumb topics!!??

I personally would not trust Rodgers to rebuild with a Lego set.

Are you naturally stupid or do you have to practise?   ???

Reg we can't expect other team's fans to have the same sense of logic as us!

For what it is worth, I think he is naturally stupid. We should pity him.

[Thommo's perm]

Sorry, I don't buy into that logic.
It's just a losers excuse, nothing more.

LFC is club that should be fighting for honours, not involved in rebulding processes.
What more excuses are we going to come up with until we actucally achieve something on the field?

Are you saying the players we have now are capable of winning the league?

[tubby]

I agree with the OP. The club was in such a state when FSG took over. We are essentially starting from ground zero up. The fans and owners need to be patient. I can see the foundations being layed with the way we are playing, the improvements in commercial revenue, the expanded stadium. We need to hang in there for 2/3 years and let FSG fix what was essentially a broken club. I know it's hard to look at teams like City and Chelsea who can seemingly buy silverware but we need to realize we don't have that type of owner. But looking at the way we played against City and even Utd, we don't need to spend that much. I don't like the way Rogers was shafted in the summer transfer window but I will chalk that up to some board room breakdown in communication which I'm sure will not happen again.

[The Hustler]

Complete rubbish.

If results dont matter to the yank owners, why did Kenny get the sack?
Why should unproven Brendan Rodgers get 3 seasons from the yanks?

Doesnt add up.
Who on earth starts these dumb topics!!??

I personally would not trust Rodgers to rebuild with a Lego set.

Are you naturally stupid or do you have to practise?   ???

Meaning what!??? Reg you have no argument. 

That was a serious post.

Why should Brendan Rodgers, totally unproven manager get 3 years??

Did Roy Hodgson get 3 seasons when results did not go his way? Roy might have rebuilt the squad in time despite a poor start!!

But most of you lot were screaming for his head! talk about two faced.

Those who think Brendan Rodgers will win us the league or get 4th spot, playing basically the youth team, are living in a fantasy land.

How the F*ck do any of you know that Brendan Rodgers is going to be successful!??? Do you have a crystal ball? 
I base my judgement on facts and track record. not DREAMS!

Some posters, I'm certain are totally brain dead!