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[bigmick]

We all must unfortunately lower our expectations drastically this season. Forget top four, even maybe top six. Probably top ten and then build.
I cant believe Im saying it but thats the way it is Im afraid

I'm not having that either. I wouldn't have had it if Benitz were the manager, so I'm not having it while Hodgson is the manager. If the team plays to its potential it is good enough to challenge for a champions League spot. Maybe not good enough to get there, but certainly good enough to challenge.

[red till i die!!]

i honestly doubt roy could get us playing good enough to haul ourselves any where near a champs league spot.
the way were playing and set up to play has been embarrasing,6 points from 7 games has always been bottom 4 stuff and we deserve to be where we are.its clear both management and players are responsible this mess and its only them who will haul us out of it.
wouldnt even entertain the thought of relegation as it will never happen and we will finish in the top half but only just.
would love to see kenny as the manager but not this way,roy should be given till christmas at least ,and if he hasnt improved us then i would say time for him to go!!.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Yes. Sack him.

Fair enough mate, bit of honesty is appreciated.

That's bav, Rob and Marc who would sack him now. Any more?

While we're on the subject of collating names Michael would you definitely be behind the manager 100% if he continues with this diabolical sequence of results ...If so then maybe you could explain what attracted you to eventually supporting Liverpool rather than your home team ... was it perhaps the style of management ..the fluidity of our play ...or was it something else that enticed you ...and then be honest and tell me you would still have given your unstinting support if Liverpool under Paisley ,Dalglish were languishing in the relegation zone ... ....now be honest now 
Then tell me how many supporters world wide Liverpool are going to collate playing under a manager who plays such turgid stagnant football ?
then maybe I will tell you I personally expected no less progress once Rafa left ,but I did expect a manager capable of having a fucking clue ... I would snatch the  proverbial hand that offered us 7th this season ...and as for teams above us last season being used as ammunition against the manager ...well this season you can take your pick fill your boots fella .... well albeit from Wolves or West Ham that is ....so we can console ourselves with that at least
Oh and for the list your compiling you can definitely fucking well and truly count me  in the YES column
Never been this angry Mick so maybe on this occasion if you could possibly excuse my veracity ....but its been bubbling for a while and I guess it culminated when I had to watch my son fighting back the tears on Sunday for the team I personally taught him to love ,like my father passed his devotion on to me and his father to him ....who knows I may end up shedding more than a tear or two if this shambles is allowed to continue
we fucking all might mate

[dundreamin]

Bigmick the reason why we have been s.*i*e for 2 years IS THE OWNERS FAULT. After Athens raea had a rant about the funds he weren't getting. Since then our transfer budget has given them 2 t.wats a profit. So how could we compete? . Since we beenin the hands of the vermin our net spends been down. Rafa fought for the club he could,nt win. Hodgson got the same problem. I blame moores and parry.why?  Because them 2 c.unts sold us downthe river

[Kharhaz]

Then tell me how many supporters world wide Liverpool are going to collate playing under a manager who plays such turgid stagnant football ?

Rafa or Roy ?

[laza]

I do think that if kenny come in at least he will give the players and fans a lift and will get results more than Roy.

Possibly true in the short term for next few games but with off field cancer which eats at this club not being cut out yet. In long term ala rest of season it wouldnt help us (imo).

Its time fans got a reality check and realised regardless of manager lowered expectations  on field and concentrated on the battle off field

Also for me personally who grew up when Kenny was King, it would be heartbreaking to see him in dugout while those t.wa.ts are still in directors box

[The Good Yank]

I'm not having that either. I wouldn't have had it if Benitz were the manager, so I'm not having it while Hodgson is the manager. If the team plays to its potential it is good enough to challenge for a champions League spot. Maybe not good enough to get there, but certainly good enough to challenge.

This is exactly the point I tried to make last year and I still believe it this year.  The Managers and the players are all supposed to be professionals.  Do your f@cking Job!!  Let the off the pitch issues be dealt with by those that need to deal with them.

For the Players.Go to training, work your off.  Play in the matches, work your off.  Sounds pretty simple doesn't it.  Don't bitch and moan about new players not coming in, it's not your job.

For the Manager, Deal with the off field issues behind closed doors.  Get the players to play their asses off in the best way you see fit.  Simple.

BTW I don't think Roy should be sacked.

[Number 9]

Look just for a second leave the owners out of it FFS already. They are a pair of c...s we know that, we desperately need to get shut we know that, but the owners aren't the reason we finished 7th and couldn't beat Reading last season, and they aren't the reason we are near the bottom and couldn't beat Northampton this season. .

The reason for those eventualities is that we are playing sh!t. It's down to the players to play better, and the manager to fecking well make sure they play better, so such eventualities don't occur.

For too long successive managers and factions of fans have hidden behind the ownership issue, it's because of this or it's because of that. It's all b0ll0cks. Yes lets get rid of the owners, but lets do the business on the pitch while we're fighting.

Utter nonsense.....just balls Mick!

The current situation is everything to do with the owners...the club has been rotting from within since they came!I know it,you know it,anyone that supports the team knows it,the players know it,Rafa knew it,Roy knows it and all the staff know it...even the tea lady knows it!

The club has been nothing but a political mess since the day those two kunts came near us....I can't imagine how the players feel.We only know the tip of the iceberg,I'm sure they know a lot more than us.

There has been a bad vibe about since they became our 'custodians' and the blame lies firmly at their feet as to why we are in the state we are in.......Morale is low,and their is no light at the end of the tunnel until they fu,ck off.

Roy took it on and the fact Hicks is still there makes his job so much harder as the club is in Limbo.......still he should be doing better than relegation zone and if he cant he should go.

[Emerald Red]

Look just for a second leave the owners out of it FFS already. They are a pair of c...s we know that, we desperately need to get shut we know that, but the owners aren't the reason we finished 7th and couldn't beat Reading last season, and they aren't the reason we are near the bottom and couldn't beat Northampton this season. .

The reason for those eventualities is that we are playing sh!t. It's down to the players to play better, and the manager to fecking well make sure they play better, so such eventualities don't occur.

For too long successive managers and factions of fans have hidden behind the ownership issue, it's because of this or it's because of that. It's all b0ll0cks. Yes lets get rid of the owners, but lets do the business on the pitch while we're fighting.

Utter nonsense.....just balls Mick!

The current situation is everything to do with the owners...the club has been rotting from within since they came!I know it,you know it,anyone that supports the team knows it,the players know it,Rafa knew it,Roy knows it and all the staff know it...even the tea lady knows it!

The club has been nothing but a political mess since the day those two kunts came near us....I can't imagine how the players feel.We only know the tip of the iceberg,I'm sure they know a lot more than us.

There has been a bad vibe about since they became our 'custodians' and the blame lies firmly at their feet as to why we are in the state we are in.......Morale is low,and their is no light at the end of the tunnel until they fu,ck off.

Roy took it on and the fact Hicks is still there makes his job so much harder as the club is in Limbo.......still he should be doing better than relegation zone and if he cant he should go.

Agree with every word of that.

Reading this thread really does encapsulate just what a f*cked up state those two scumbags have left this club in. They've conned their way in, raped and pilaged, and devided the people. It's one huge mess, and those two c*nts are accountable for everything! It'll be years before we recover once we're shot of those two.

[Number 9]

Anyway on the thread topic.....I have not got a clue,but it's gonna take a special man!

Ideally we could sell the club and loose Roy in one go....bring in new owners with a different idea,a new direction and a few quid.We can't move forward with sacking Roy alone and we can't move forward with new owners alone(although it would be a fuc'king big start).....
I don't know who we should bring in as until we have knew owners LFC is a poison chalice.If we get new owners we need a fresh start and to install a belief we have been lacking....lets face it if Roy Hodgson wants Sjneider(for example) at LFC and he gets offered a new contract he dont fancy,then Wenger puts money up......theres only gonna be one outcome!

Sorry..LFC is LFC is LFC......we need someone big and if M O'Neill ever comes near us I'll burn myself alive.......been hearing some bad stuff about him lately,a complete arrogant little bast'ard of a man by all accounts!

[vegnomeat]

Who in their right mind would want to manage us at this moment in time ?

We are a mid table side who are under performing and there is no money left because RAFA spent it all on dross.

Roy is a good solid manager who will come good, we should be aiming for 10th place this season and then next season we can progress further.

Regards

Vegnomeat

[Thommo's perm]

Then tell me how many supporters world wide Liverpool are going to collate playing under a manager who plays such turgid stagnant football ?

Rafa or Roy ?

Rafa for his first, second and possibly third season
Then Roy

[bigmick]

Look just for a second leave the owners out of it FFS already. They are a pair of c...s we know that, we desperately need to get shut we know that, but the owners aren't the reason we finished 7th and couldn't beat Reading last season, and they aren't the reason we are near the bottom and couldn't beat Northampton this season. .

The reason for those eventualities is that we are playing sh!t. It's down to the players to play better, and the manager to fecking well make sure they play better, so such eventualities don't occur.

For too long successive managers and factions of fans have hidden behind the ownership issue, it's because of this or it's because of that. It's all b0ll0cks. Yes lets get rid of the owners, but lets do the business on the pitch while we're fighting.

Utter nonsense.....just balls Mick!


Roy took it on and the fact Hicks is still there makes his job so much harder as the club is in Limbo....... still he should be doing better than relegation zone and if he cant he should go.

Precisely, thats my point.

[woof woof !]

So if Hodgson went. Who would you want?

Hmmm, difficult.

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