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Postby primodua » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:37 am

stu_the_red wrote:And i really really don't give a toss weather you really really agree with me or not, at the end of the day theres only a few people on the forum who regularly talk sense, you aren't one of them.

First time for everything though.

in that case you can shove this forum up in your a#rse you f#ckin c#unt!!
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Postby A.B. » Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:40 pm

stu_the_red wrote:
A.B. wrote:
stu_the_red wrote:
A.B. wrote:Morientes is a better all around player than Defoe, to compare the two is a crime.

:laugh:

You're talking rubbish.

Thats your opinion this is mine. I've seen both play enough to pass my judgement. I think Morientes is better all around. He's a proven international player, and he's produced the goods at other clubs.

Whether he at the end makes the same sort of impact he's done at Madrid and Monaco, we will see but to me he's a better player than Defoe.

I think his touch is better than Defoe's, and he has better awareness. Defoe might be faster, but Morientes is more intelligent. His link up play is better than Defoes, and he's a threat in the air.

It is hard to compare the two, because they are different types of strikers but Morientes imo is better than Defoe. I couldn't personally care what you have to say about that, where as it's eating up inside everytime somebody disagrees with you.


I don't give a flyin fuck kid. At the end of the day you've never been to a live match, you're a teenager who's seen fuck all and you generally talk rubbish on every thread and every post you make unless you're posting someone elses opinions.

You always have to try and get the last word and are a complete tosser. That aside, you're entitled to you're uneducated opinion. :D

I'm quite tired of you  patronizing every member here, with the "lad" shit, when everyone is older than you. (There's quite a few members who are old enough to be your father or grandfather).

As much as I would like to admit that I'm a kid [the fact that a kid could get on your nerves so much would prove how sad you really are], I'm not. You can cut the ''kid'',''lad'' shit out.

Then you have the balls [I'm suprised, when did you grow them?]
to make comments like this:

"At the end of the day you've never been to a live match,"

Now I'm wondering, how much shit do you spout daily?

"That aside, you're entitled to you're uneducated opinion"

I more educated than you will ever be, please pick up a book and go learn something new. You couldn't argue properly if your life depended on it.

Don't bother replying, because
1. you're predictable and boring. I really don't have time for your life story
2. you're getting old with the same arguements all the time and I quite frankly don't have the time to listen to your shit.

You can argue with yourself for all I care, you're not worth the energy or the time arguing with. When someone disagrees with me, I scratch my ass. When someone disagrees with you, you lose your temperment because who can disagree with the mighty d!ckhead Stu? You're a child, grow up.

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Postby drummerphil » Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:06 pm

nice to see everyone getting on again nicely.............:D
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Postby RedWolf35 » Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:24 pm

over to you Stu

:D

its just like Dynasty

AB  -  Alexis Carrington
Stu -  Joan Collins (sorry could not remember her name!!!)
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:37 pm

RedWolf35 wrote:over to you Stu

:D

its just like Dynasty

AB  -  Alexis Carrington
Stu -  Joan Collins (sorry could not remember her name!!!)

Joan collins was alexis the other one was Linda evans who was chrystal,not that i watched it or anything err hmm.
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Postby drummerphil » Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:56 pm

Igor Zidane wrote:
RedWolf35 wrote:over to you Stu

:D

its just like Dynasty

AB  -  Alexis Carrington
Stu -  Joan Collins (sorry could not remember her name!!!)

Joan collins was alexis the other one was Linda evans who was chrystal,not that i watched it or anything err hmm.

i was more into Dallas myself  :laugh:
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Postby banana » Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:29 pm

Wow. A bit of tension i can feel. I don't know why people fall in love with average players. We sold Baros recently. He was definately a more accomplished striker than Defoe with better stats and international experience. Defoe? He cant even get past Mido or Keane at the moment. His all round game has limitations and his price tag is way above what you expect for a player of his quality.

I admit, at the moment I think we are lacking a killer up front. Morientes is in decline and a bit off from what I would like to see in a striker. Not enough power and pace. Sinama may become a good striker, but he is not good enough yet. Cisse is a strong fast player, but alas with little brains. So he will most likely never make it in a top team. I think Rafa has a couple of players he would like to sign. Kujt is one of them. Defoe is not one of them.
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Postby redmikey » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:18 pm

Football anyone?
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Postby 115-1073096938 » Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:19 pm

A.B. wrote:I'm quite tired of you  patronizing every member here, with the "lad" :censored:, when everyone is older than you. (There's quite a few members who are old enough to be your father or grandfather).

As much as I would like to admit that I'm a kid [the fact that a kid could get on your nerves so much would prove how sad you really are], i dare not, because no-one will take me seriously, even though they don't anyway.

Then you have the balls, unlike myself...

to make comments like this:

"At the end of the day you've never been to a live match,"

Now I'm wondering, how much :censored: do you spout daily?

"That aside, you're entitled to you're uneducated opinion"

I more educated than you will ever be, i am a actually a geek, please pick up a book and go learn something new. I couldn't argue properly if my life depended on it.

Do bother replying, because
1. I will reply because i'm predictable.

You can argue with yourself for all I care, you're not worth the energy or the time arguing with. ( Thought you could speak english? :D ) When someone disagrees with me, I scratch my :censored:. When someone disagrees with you, you lose your temperment because who can disagree with the mighty Stu? I'm a child, I must grow up.

Once I am a :censored:, I am always a :censored:.


1. The term "lad" is used as scouse slang/local dialect. Being a croation yank, its understandable you don't get that.

2. I shit on average once a day.

3. I know you're a child and a tosser i've been saying that for ages. :D
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Postby A.B. » Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:51 pm

A ''croatian yank''? It's like saying I'm a "Scouser and a Manc". Its got to be one or the other you dumb fuck. Get yourself an education, then talk to me when you do.



You should be contemplating about changing your name to ''Stu the Shit"

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Postby Gareth G » Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:03 pm

You're wrong actually A.B, is there no such thing as African American's, Irish American's and the likes?
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Postby Jari's mullet » Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:07 pm

(A.B. @ Jan. 14 2006,05:21)
I wasn't talking about partnerships, I was talking about individual players. As a player, Morientes is better than Defoe.



I don't want appear to be rude but your line of thought appears to be slightly juvenile.  What do you mean you are not talking about partnerships? What do you want to talk about then? When talking about potential strikers or any other speculation, I don't think it is beyond reason to talk about how a particular player will fit into our current team i.e. when talking about a striker, do you not think it would be logical to make a judgement as to how he would partner our current main striker.  If you saw the game yesterday, you would have seen that playing both Crouch and Morientes together does not work.  They are too similar, both link the play by either holding it up or flicking it on.  I like Morientes he showed great commitment yesterday, but the fact remains by playing both of them, we pose absolutely no threat when through balls are played through for either Crouch or Morientes to run on to.  I think Defoe would be a good option to play off either Crouch or Morientes, just as I also think Rafa should give Pongolle a chance to see whether he can perform this role.

A.B., again I don't wish to be rude, I don't post on here enough to know what type of fan you are, but I assume that you might not get the opportunity to go to matches very often.  Maybe your view of Morientes is still of the Zaragosa striker or the player that graced the Bernabau or even the one that enjoyed a great loan spell at Monaco.  Morientes does show awareness and a lot of desire in fighting for the ball but I don't think I am being controversial when I say that generally he has been a bit of a disappointment.  His touch has been erratic, sometimes sublime, sometimes woeful.  I have been a huge Morientes fan over the years and still think he has a lot to offer Liverpool, but I right now, if a comparison was to be made between Morientes and Defoe, Defoe for me is the better player.
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Postby neil » Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:10 pm

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Postby A.B. » Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:12 pm

KOP-1892 wrote:You're wrong actually A.B, is there no such thing as African American's, Irish American's and the likes?

African-Americans are usually born in America. The same with Irish Americans, or Italian Americans. But I wasn't born in America, I was born and raised in Europe. Stu knows this because the thick cunt asked me where I was from.

If you were born and raised in England, and decide to leave in Ireland for a couple of years you don't become an English Irishman do you?
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Postby A.B. » Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:16 pm

Jari's mullet wrote:(A.B. @ Jan. 14 2006,05:21)
I wasn't talking about partnerships, I was talking about individual players. As a player, Morientes is better than Defoe.



I don't want appear to be rude but your line of thought appears to be slightly juvenile.  What do you mean you are not talking about partnerships? What do you want to talk about then? When talking about potential strikers or any other speculation, I don't think it is beyond reason to talk about how a particular player will fit into our current team i.e. when talking about a striker, do you not think it would be logical to make a judgement as to how he would partner our current main striker.  If you saw the game yesterday, you would have seen that playing both Crouch and Morientes together does not work.  They are too similar, both link the play by either holding it up or flicking it on.  I like Morientes he showed great commitment yesterday, but the fact remains by playing both of them, we pose absolutely no threat when through balls are played through for either Crouch or Morientes to run on to.  I think Defoe would be a good option to play off either Crouch or Morientes, just as I also think Rafa should give Pongolle a chance to see whether he can perform this role.

A.B., again I don't wish to be rude, I don't post on here enough to know what type of fan you are, but I assume that you might not get the opportunity to go to matches very often.  Maybe your view of Morientes is still of the Zaragosa striker or the player that graced the Bernabau or even the one that enjoyed a great loan spell at Monaco.  Morientes does show awareness and a lot of desire in fighting for the ball but I don't think I am being controversial when I say that generally he has been a bit of a disappointment.  His touch has been erratic, sometimes sublime, sometimes woeful.  I have been a huge Morientes fan over the years and still think he has a lot to offer Liverpool, but I right now, if a comparison was to be made between Morientes and Defoe, Defoe for me is the better player.

I think my statement is clear. I'm not talking about how good a partnership one of them would form with another striker, I'm simply talking about their overall ability. Morientes may have had an erratic career here with us, but to me he's a better player than Defoe.

As Lando posted earlier, last season in January if you had asked people which you would had wanted between Morientes or Defoe most would have said Morientes.

Morientes still posses the ability he had at Zaragoza and Madrid. To me he's a better overall player, though it's difficult to compare the two. He may not have pace, but pace doesn't make a player.

There's nothing that will change my mind, it's my opinion and I'm rightfully sticking to it.
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