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[The_Rock]

This defoe rumour is spreading like wildfire.... hope we do eventually sign him. He will be a massive improvement over cisse & morientes.

[A.B.]

Morientes is a better all around player than Defoe, to compare the two is a crime.

[Lando_Griffin]

And yet I've heard nothing about it!

[The_Rock]

Morientes is a better all around player than Defoe, to compare the two is a crime.

tats your opinion.....


i think crouch & defoe combination will be much better than crouch & moro.

[A.B.]

I wasn't talking about partnerships, I was talking about individual players. As a player, Morientes is better than Defoe.

[Lando_Griffin]

Morientes has more ability and awareness, Defoe has more pace.
I know which I'd choose.

[A.B.]

Pace isn't everything. Shearer never had any pace, but he's scored 200 goals. Rush never had pace either.

[luvliverpool]

am i the only liverpool fan who doesn't want this move?

I second you, Liverpool are European Champions and are capable of signing better strikers than Defoe

[greenred]

Hang on,some people here think 11m on a third choice Spurs  striker would be a bargain? Are you all feckin mad

[bigmick]

11 million for a third choice Spurs striker is no bargain, it's a rip off. 11 million for a guy that gets goals, is English, young and will probably play 60 games for his country is cheap. Which one of the aforementioned is Defoe? 14 million for a guy who plays up top for France, is one of the quickest players in World football and topped the scoring charts in his home league is cheap. 14 million for a bloke with questionable attitude, poor first touch and a lack of football intelligence is a rip off. Which of the above is Cisse?
This is the transfer game. Say Spurs went for a straight swap would we take it on? Clearly over the next couple of seasons one of the two players star will rise and one will fall. By then we'd either be saying I can't believe we did that deal. What a feckin disgrace or what an absolute result. It's a matter of opinion and guesswork. MY guess? if Spurs went for a straight swap Cisse with Defoe I would bite their arm off at the shoulder joint.

[115-1073096938]

Morientes is a better all around player than Defoe, to compare the two is a crime.

You're talking rubbish.

[115-1073096938]

Pace isn't everything. Shearer never had any pace, but he's scored 200 goals. Rush never had pace either.

More tosh, did you ever see Shearer at his best? He wasn't lightening but he was by no means slow. He was as quick and powerfull with his running as Gerrard is.

[115-1073096938]

I wasn't talking about partnerships, I was talking about individual players. As a player, Morientes is better than Defoe.

At what? He has more awareness and more ability to spot a pass. Morientes has better technique and is far superior in the air. However Defoe's touch is better, his pace is better, he's more of a goal threat, he's probably as good infront of goal, he's a better dribbler and he's arguably stronger than Nando who despite his size is relatively feeble.

Defoe pisses on Morientes physically, Mentally they are similar but have different strengths and technically they are again similar with different strengths.

Defoe's the better of the two.

[bigmick]

To compare the two is a bit daft that's why I never really got involved in AB's original comment. They are different types of player, Morientes being a target man come link player with the silky touch and Defoe being an out and out goalscorer. This for me is the crux of Defoes "problems" at the moment. As he became the main striker at Spurs he was probably encouraged to "lead the line" and the rest. If I was managing him I would tell him to model his game on Owen. Close people down by all means and work for the team but ultimately you must score goals. Players of the diminutive stature physically as Owen or Defoe are never going to contribute enough to the team unless they score regularly. Owen does and recently Defoe doesn't. I'd tell him to be selfish, that I expect a couple of chances a game for him, that I want intensity and passionate celebrations when he scores. I'd tell him the team needs him to score AT LEAST once every two games and statistically a little higher than that to tell the truth. I'd put my arm round him andf tell him that we need him and I'm certain he'd be a big success at Anfield.
Oh and BTW, you can't really compare the two but FWIW he is a better player than Morientes. Maybe not two years ago but today there is no comparison for me.

[115-1073096938]

To compare the two is a bit daft that's why I never really got involved in AB's original comment. They are different types of player, Morientes being a target man come link player with the silky touch and Defoe being an out and out goalscorer. This for me is the crux of Defoes "problems" at the moment. As he became the main striker at Spurs he was probably encouraged to "lead the line" and the rest. If I was managing him I would tell him to model his game on Owen. Close people down by all means and work for the team but ultimately you must score goals. Players of the diminutive stature physically as Owen or Defoe are never going to contribute enough to the team unless they score regularly. Owen does and recently Defoe doesn't. I'd tell him to be selfish, that I expect a couple of chances a game for him, that I want intensity and passionate celebrations when he scores. I'd tell him the team needs him to score AT LEAST once every two games and statistically a little higher than that to tell the truth. I'd put my arm round him andf tell him that we need him and I'm certain he'd be a big success at Anfield.
Oh and BTW, you can't really compare the two but FWIW he is a better player than Morientes. Maybe not two years ago but today there is no comparison for me.

To compare the two is daft because they are different? I'm sorry Mick but i completely disagree. If i said a player like Ronaldinho was better than Traore would that be daft?

However in general i agree with what you are saying. I do however disagree you say players like Owen and Defoe contribute little to team play, i think both of them contribute, Defoe probably more so than Owen, I wouldn't use Defoe ONLY for scoring goals, his goalscoring exploits will get around the 20 mark every season, me personally, i'd use his pace, dribbling ability and intelligent play to improve his link up play and make him less selfish, he'd fit in superbly then as he has the ability to do things on his own.