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[lakes10]

Anyone heard what Carragher told Riley in the tunnel (during half-time)? He seems very animated...

the thing is i can not see Carragher getting reported for anything he done why... well the fa would have to look into why he done it and then they would have to say that  riley is a f***** s*** ref  or come out and say that  riley  got it right when we all know he got it wrong.

[Igor Zidane]

did anyone see jamies handball in the box against norwich today,its a funny old game saint

[Dalglish]

Whats really sad is that Carragher will more likely becharged for "bringing the Game into Disrepute" etc ....rather than riley be brought to book for his poor refereeing performance.

Players and Managers are essentialy gagged and prevented from making honest comments about refs these days amd despite a so called more open approach from refs ...........it's a myth and refs stil hide behind the authority they are afforeded by the FA.

This season has seen some poor decisions all round and I'm as disappointed with the Assistant referees as the Refs for their inability or relucatnce to make a decision or highlight inciidents they should be in a better position to see......

[liamac]

Again it calls into question the idea of  tv replays , or rather a 5th official watching  the tv screens and making a decision , radioing his overiding decision to the ref on the ground...... its gone to come sooner or later , and after the chelsea game   the sooner in my mind.

Ok there is always the argument that every decision , tackle ,offside ,  etc will be argued about. but at the end of the day  such abissmal reffereeing decisons like Riley made would be over ruled , plus if the 5th official has the overriding   decision  on the game  then the decision is final , also old rrefs who are too old to run for a full 90 mins but are  highly regarded can still refferee a game .

Sounds like a perfect Utopia i know , and maybe might not work , but i really think they shoul look into giving it a try in experimental games to see how it pans out. if it slows the game down by X amount then bin it , but at least give it a try

[Dalglish]

Some valid points there. What really gets to me is the comments that "It usually balances itself out over the season etc....... Try telling that to the so called smaller clubs in the prem.
They consistently have a disproportinate amount of penalties awarded against them and players sent off.

If less technically minded sports like Rugby League and Union and Cricket can  use technology for key decision why not football ?

[A.B.]

It seemed that Jamie Carragher was going to get fined by the FA for his comments about Riley but apparently Carra will not be fined.

..."The Football Association will almost certainly not charge Carragher as he did not doubt Riley's impartiality or honesty, though England's Euro 2004 referee is unlikely to take charge of many more high-profile games this season."
-Telegraph

[115-1073096938]

End of thats a definate no. Controversial decisions are part of the game. Get over it.

I'm as angry as the next person but ****** happens. No way should we use video technology. If that happens i will stop following the game. Simple as that.

[Dalglish]

It seemed that Jamie Carragher was going to get fined by the FA for his comments about Riley but apparently Carra will not be fined.

..."The Football Association will almost certainly not charge Carragher as he did not doubt Riley's impartiality or honesty, though England's Euro 2004 referee is unlikely to take charge of many more high-profile games this season."
-Telegraph

Says it all really.

The FA's stance seems to be "Don't admit the refs ******, just make sure he doesn't ref any more high profile games."

Its missing the point though , which is the standard of refereeing in this league.

[liamac]

So Stu you wouldnt give  the technology a try  in a couple of  games ,say like a mini tournament in the summer , just to see  if it works  and the effects it might  have on a  game ?

If it slowed the game down to say  something like an american grid iron  then id be all for bining the thing  and id agree with you and say it  wont work .

But if it maybe slowed it down  by a few mins, stopped the dives that some players make  ( i.e. Rivaldo  or a Maradonna , or even a Klinsman ) , or when they hit the deck  when some one pushes then away ( Rooney )  then i would be all for it , it would stop the cheating that  goes on in the game   thats for sure.

[LFC #1]

I somewhat agree with Stu that the traditions of the game should be upheld and that controversy is part of the game, and makes it all that more exciting I suppose you could say.

But it is getting ridiculous whwn decisons like Riley's on Saturday cost you a match and potentially Mike Riley has determined the course of the title.

I think you would have to be very careful with using technology as how far would it go, it would have to strictly used for penalty decsions and balls crossing the line, but then you may get players looking for penatly more and more to heop and get a positive verdict from the video ref.

Perhaps as liamac says it could be tried in a mini-tournament in one of those promotional US tours or whatever, but for now leave it be.

[Dalglish]

What puzzles me is the reluctance of the FA to use technology on the day of the match only to borrow SKY Sport's footage to bring later charges....crazy !!!!!!!

[LFC #1]

yeh double standards or what

[A.B.]

It wouldn't hurt if we had one more ref on the pitch.

[Dalglish]

End of thats a definate no. Controversial decisions are part of the game. Get over it.

I'm as angry as the next person but ****** happens. No way should we use video technology. If that happens i will stop following the game. Simple as that.

So you WON'T be signing the petition then to stop Riley officiating at any other Liverpool games in the other thread ............


Ohhhh you already signed the petition 

[LFC #1]

disagree A.B.

the assistant referees need to make more responsibility, they can see incidents that the refereee can't but are too gutless to make a decison as it is "the ref's job", when in actual fact it is their role to assist the referee with decisons, unfortunately referees seldom console with their assistants, this needs to be rectified ASAP.