Liverpool FC Forum

[kindaconfused]

I do think they should concentrate on them boots and the matatorsal thingy magigy things.

[mynameisred]

Redrider Im most interested in learning about these tests and the results of Liverpool players. You seem knowledgable on the subject is there anywhere I can access the said information?

[kindaconfused]

REdrider

See yer not joining in on my postings yer must be afraid yer Premium Members status is being affected by yer association with me.

As the saying goes "if yer want to run with the big dogs don't p*ss like a puppy!"

My ar*e you for Premium, even yer mum can't understand yer postings

[mynameisred]

What are the ratings in this forum? Mine seems to say Elite yet I have less posts than Redrider who is only premium? Can anyone help?

[kindaconfused]

mynameisred

If you had seen Redriders finger its well used to being used as its probably been used to wag at a good deal of the girls at his college.

[mynameisred]

Im not sure I want you to go into details on that one kinda?

[kindaconfused]

mynameisred

If it aint up his nose then its up his ar*e and if aint up there then its over at the girfriends, up there

[mynameisred]

You have lost me kinda? Is Redrider talking bullshine or something?

[kindaconfused]

No this is a serious posting I believe, Redrider seems to have found some little tit bit that he believes is interesting and raised it here.

He's dealing with acedemia while I'm trying to prevent the whole of football grinding to a halt with all the bribery and corruption (at the fans expense and what fans don't seem to realise is that they are paying for it through the turnstiles and Sky viewing - see other post in Football general "the future of football"), a sort of modern day Supermum

[Redrider]

Redrider Im most interested in learning about these tests and the results of Liverpool players. You seem knowledgable on the subject is there anywhere I can access the said information?

There is an article in one of todays newspapers, I think.
If I find it I will post the web address.

With respect to the Elite/Advanced status, I haven't a clue.
Although some people think I am Kindaconfused and he has a bad reputation. So I could be held at the back of the class ?

[Redrider]

No this is a serious posting I believe, Redrider seems to have found some little tit bit that he believes is interesting and raised it here.

He's dealing with acedemia while I'm trying to prevent the whole of football grinding to a halt with all the bribery and corruption (at the fans expense and what fans don't seem to realise is that they are paying for it through the turnstiles and Sky viewing - see other post in Football general "the future of football"), a sort of modern day Supermum

Kinda, not sure about the thread on your posts re' my finger apart from the crude suggestivity. However, you defintely have a thread on Bribery and exploitation in the game. I reckon Fergie was damn lucky that Magnier didn't expose him and his bent Son to the full.
But coming back to the Topic in hand, there is a serious push to bring a more scientific approach to the game. We are extremely fortunate that here in Liverpool that both of our major Universities have set up units to research the game.
Liverpool John Moores have their School of Sports Science, which is undertaking a mass of worthwhile research and Rogan Taylor is embeded at Liverpool Univ' looking at the game from the Fan's point of view.

[kindaconfused]

Redrider

Have they opened a course on "takin bungs" though I think the managers and agents don't need to learn anymore than they already know

[Redrider]

Redrider Im most interested in learning about these tests and the results of Liverpool players. You seem knowledgable on the subject is there anywhere I can access the said information?

Mys'red, Can't find the article on the web, but I think the attached link is to Liverpool John Moores where they undertake a lot of ground breaking research into all sports, but with particular relevance to Footie.
If I find the article, I will post it for you. But it is particularly relevant at this moment as Rooney was also found to have a high Peripheral Vision score.
It seems that the field of Sports Science and Research is a wholely untapped area, it is only with the advent of intelligent coaches, such as Clive Woodward in Rugby and Arsene Wenger and we hope Rafa in Football that sport is being researched to obtain those extra few degree's which lead to success.

http://www.livjm.ac.uk/learning/dc/science/coachsci/

[mynameisred]

Cheers.

[Redrider]

Redrider Im most interested in learning about these tests and the results of Liverpool players. You seem knowledgable on the subject is there anywhere I can access the said information?

There is an article in one of todays newspapers, I think.
If I find it I will post the web address.

With respect to the Elite/Advanced status, I haven't a clue.
Although some people think I am Kindaconfused and he has a bad reputation. So I could be held at the back of the class ?

My'sred, found an article, not the exact one I was looking for.
Don't dwell too much on the Rooney connection, but a few Merseyside footballers were tested, amongst them Young Wayne. Apparently, it's this control of Peripheral Vision that's the key to being aware of opportunities. Equally it's easy to how Baros run's into trouble, he probably has a Low PV Score.
From the Sunday Times   
October 03, 2004

Football’s a brain of two halves for wonder boy Wayne
Brilliance comes easy to Rooney, but young geniuses perceive the world differently. The key lies in the connection between body and mind, says John Neal





WAYNE ROONEY is a special player, a genius, but he is not alone. Geniuses have similar capabilities that can be learnt.

They exude confidence, have an inner calm and do things before others have even thought about the possibility. But are they different physically or mentally? No, they are normal people, but they perceive the world differently, and the key lies in the connection between the body and the mind.

The brain has two halves, a thinking cap if you like, connected around a central emotional bundle. Rooney has the ability to use both halves of his brain in perfect harmony with his body. He can manage its emotions, even under extreme pressure.

The logical half of our brain perceives that a teenager making his club debut in front of 70,000 fans with millions watching on TV should create fear and nervousness, and the left side of the brain sets off a chain of chemical reactions. Less blood flows to the brain. The right side — which controls creativity, imagination and, in general terms, prediction of the future — shuts down and we think differently.

Not for Rooney, though. He has an “unconscious competence”, so he does not know that he should be nervous. Why should he? He perceives that he has all the skills and can do anything on a football field.

Under pressure, the left brain will normally shut down sensory awareness such as peripheral vision, hearing, taste and smell, to enable the individual to concentrate on what is in front of him — the main threat. This means you do not hear the call for a pass or feel the player behind you.

You and I would panic and make mistakes. Not Rooney; he perceives no threat, no chemical reaction in his brain, and so his peripheral vision remains wide, his hearing acute and his physical awareness at its greatest. He predicts without thought, he sees space where we see defenders, he hears footsteps and moves where we wait for the tackle. He shoots first where others take a touch and worry about missing the target. He sees what can happen, we see what has happened. He is using all of his brain, and it is working faster than anybody else’s and sending messages to his body at a subconscious level. He is permanently in the zone.

There is, however, a problem here. Rooney is unaware of how he does what he does. But there will come a time, as he grows older, when life starts to get in the way. He will experience failure and start to question himself and develop doubt. Worse still, without careful management, he will start to lose focus. Football may become less exciting and no longer fun. Those who see Rooney as their way to vast sums of money will try to move in. Distraction, worry and too much thinking will slow his brain . . .

But then there is Sir Alex Ferguson.

He has a great track record with geniuses and knows that you cannot coach Rooney to do what he does. He will create an environment of freedom in which Rooney can express his talent on the field and discipline to maintain his genius off it.

Can such genius be learnt? Can others have Rooney’s inner calm and self-belief? Good players can become great with hard work and a greater understanding of what Rooney does without thought. With hard work and training, you can do it, but the genius that is Rooney can do it now, faster than everybody else.

I hope Ferguson ensures that the Rooney genius thinks less and plays even more. oSports psychologist John Neal is director of the World Class Coaching Programme for England Rugby

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