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[maccabi haifa zona]

Um Ba - and you are gay.

puroresu - although the extremists didn't like the UN resolution, our leaders did and fact is that the Arabs started the war, we just protected ourselves and conquered some areas after having won the war (same thing happened in 1967, where we conquered many areas).

What does it matter if I, my parents or my grandparents were born in Europe? The Arabs didn't have to go away, fact is there are many Arabs in Haifa and in Jaffa, so now they have new neighbours. Many British people also weren't born in Britain. If the Arabs hadn't started some riots (1920, 1921, 1929, 1933-1936, etc) and the Independence War (or as they call it, al-Naqba "the disaster") they could live with us in peace, as they had for hundreds of years.

Plane attacks - you need to have some solid proof to arrest 21 people, to cancel many flights in England and in the US. Besides, you have to notice all the world terrorism is done by people of the same religion - the WTC attacks, the London tube attacks, Madrid attacks. It's hard to interpret the meaning of the word "Jihad" in two different ways, and their leaders are all extremists.

[puroresu]

Um Ba - and you are gay.

puroresu - although the extremists didn't like the UN resolution, our leaders did and fact is that the Arabs started the war, we just protected ourselves and conquered some areas after having won the war (same thing happened in 1967, where we conquered many areas).

What does it matter if I, my parents or my grandparents were born in Europe? The Arabs didn't have to go away, fact is there are many Arabs in Haifa and in Jaffa, so now they have new neighbours. Many British people also weren't born in Britain. If the Arabs hadn't started some riots (1920, 1921, 1929, 1933-1936, etc) and the Independence War (or as they call it, al-Naqba "the disaster") they could live with us in peace, as they had for hundreds of years.

Plane attacks - you need to have some solid proof to arrest 21 people, to cancel many flights in England and in the US. Besides, you have to notice all the world terrorism is done by people of the same religion - the WTC attacks, the London tube attacks, Madrid attacks. It's hard to interpret the meaning of the word "Jihad" in two different ways, and their leaders are all extremists.

How did the Arabs start the war.  They were just resisiting occupation from new occupiers. May I add all these wars were pure BS as those rulers of the Arab states wanted to protect Israel!!!

The problem is any Jew can go to Israel and live their regardless of where they are born.  However a Palestinian who lived in Jerusaleum and who family lived their for centuries has no right to live in that land.  You cant justify that.  The Arabs didnt have to go away you say.  So you are saying the Arabs left by choice.  You honsestly believe that.

Yes the Arabs lived with Jews in peace for hundreds of years.  That was under the rule of Islam.  That system is the only system which can bring peace to the region again. Oh and I see u failed to mention your zionist terrorist groups from the 30's and 40's.  The groups that even bombed Jews in the Arab World to make them leave and migrate to occupied Palestine.

Oh and you dont need solid evidence to arrest people.  Since 9/'11 this government has arrested plenty and then held them in prison without even charging them.  But you would know about that as your zionist state has thousands locked up in your dungeons, kidnapped from their homes!!

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[quote] Also, most of those who do live there have no real roots in the country. More than a third weren't born there and most of the others are the children or grandchildren of people born elsewhere [quote]

And do you not think England/Britain has that exact same problem with Muslims ? Pot, Kettle and Black.

[puroresu]

Also, most of those who do live there have no real roots in the country. More than a third weren't born there and most of the others are the children or grandchildren of people born elsewhere

And do you not think England/Britain has that exact same problem with Muslims ? Pot, Kettle and Black.

difference is immigrants have not come to the UK and demanded their own state or forced indeginious people from their homes.  The European Jews did exactly that in Palestine.

Lets not forget most Asian and African/West Indian immigrants were actually requested by the state to migrate to Britain.  Totally different to the land thieves which those European Jews are.

[66-1112520797]

Also, most of those who do live there have no real roots in the country. More than a third weren't born there and most of the others are the children or grandchildren of people born elsewhere

And do you not think England/Britain has that exact same problem with Muslims ? Pot, Kettle and Black.

difference is immigrants have not come to the UK and demanded their own state or forced indeginious people from their homes.  The European Jews did exactly that in Palestine.

Lets not forget most Asian and African/West Indian immigrants were actually requested by the state to migrate to Britain.  Totally different to the land thieves which those European Jews are.

Well when told by Muslims about what the krahn tells you to do, "go and spread Islam and takeover the world" It does make me wonder thats exactly what your doing to Britain and other countries. Not forcably of course you dont need to with numbers (population) and Political correctness.
Muslims havent demanded there state but they get there temples knocked up, have there language taught in certain schools. Most of especially the older ones but kids too talk there native tongue and wont even try to speak English and settle and intergrate in to the British way of life.
I drive down Southall high street with my passport in my pocket and wonder what country I'm in, I cant read a bl.oody shop name.
Although Muslims havent done this forcably its still the same in my eyes they're taking over, and in a way I'm glad the Arab states are having this problem with Israel. Now you now how it feels to be on the recieving end of a problem to which you can do nothing about. And when I mean migrant I'm not solely talking of Muslims I'm talking of all nationalities.
I'm not saying we shouldnt let people in but there should be a cap on it, and definately none of these fanatic kunts who preach there hate of Britain while claiming benefits, cheeky kunts   


As for the middle-east werent or havent the jews been there for thousands of years ?
If you read our bible it tells you of Jesus and the Jews from back then. So if true why should the Israelis move ?
You said European jews why is that, wasnt there a Jewish population there before 300,000 were moved there after the war ?
Anyway the way I see it is that problem over there WILL NEVER end. And I thought the Lebanonese and Egyptian governments settled for peace, and were trying to get along with Israel. But then that pi$$ed off the Jordanians and Syrians etc they didnt like the idea of Egypt and Lebanon working things out with Israel.
I'm not sure if my facts are right but I stand here an aimed target to anyone who wants to set me right.   

[Big Niall]

You may not have "stayed out of it" as much as you think . In excess of 200,000 Irish nationals travelled to England and volunteered to join the fight against the Nazi's

The history of Irelands "neutrality " during that time makes for some interesting reading.

link

Irish neutrality has always been about "who we are neutral for", you can be damn sure that if the Gerries one WW2 we (irish) would have said that we were with them all along and started growing strange little mustaches.



Most irish went to England because the English men were fighting the war and so the English women were available. You might have more Irish blood in you than you think

If you are good at football we'll claim you as being as Irish as our former captain Andy Townsend!

[woof woof !]

Irish neutrality has always been about "who we are neutral for", you can be damn sure that if the Gerries one WW2 we (irish) would have said that we were with them all along and started growing strange little mustaches.

After the Germans bombed Dublin I think a lot of Irish birds played it safe and grew one anyway .       

[Big Niall]

Woof Woof - sorry dude, if the person you had sex with last time you were drunk in Dublin had a mustache. Did the "girl" have big hands and an adam's apple too?

[woof woof !]

Come to think of it she was called "Big Nell" , any relation ?   

[taff]

Churchill was very unpopular in Wales due to him sending troops against the miners in the general strike but he was a great war leader.

Dont underestimate what people would be capable of under extreme pressure as in WW11.If Ireland would have been perceived as a serious threat then it would have been attacked by Britain, probably from the air, promising things for support was par the course in those days ask India.

[puroresu]

Also, most of those who do live there have no real roots in the country. More than a third weren't born there and most of the others are the children or grandchildren of people born elsewhere

And do you not think England/Britain has that exact same problem with Muslims ? Pot, Kettle and Black.

difference is immigrants have not come to the UK and demanded their own state or forced indeginious people from their homes.  The European Jews did exactly that in Palestine.

Lets not forget most Asian and African/West Indian immigrants were actually requested by the state to migrate to Britain.  Totally different to the land thieves which those European Jews are.

Well when told by Muslims about what the krahn tells you to do, "go and spread Islam and takeover the world" It does make me wonder thats exactly what your doing to Britain and other countries. Not forcably of course you dont need to with numbers (population) and Political correctness.
Muslims havent demanded there state but they get there temples knocked up, have there language taught in certain schools. Most of especially the older ones but kids too talk there native tongue and wont even try to speak English and settle and intergrate in to the British way of life.
I drive down Southall high street with my passport in my pocket and wonder what country I'm in, I cant read a bl.oody shop name.
Although Muslims havent done this forcably its still the same in my eyes they're taking over, and in a way I'm glad the Arab states are having this problem with Israel. Now you now how it feels to be on the recieving end of a problem to which you can do nothing about. And when I mean migrant I'm not solely talking of Muslims I'm talking of all nationalities.
I'm not saying we shouldnt let people in but there should be a cap on it, and definately none of these fanatic kunts who preach there hate of Britain while claiming benefits, cheeky kunts   


As for the middle-east werent or havent the jews been there for thousands of years ?
If you read our bible it tells you of Jesus and the Jews from back then. So if true why should the Israelis move ?
You said European jews why is that, wasnt there a Jewish population there before 300,000 were moved there after the war ?
Anyway the way I see it is that problem over there WILL NEVER end. And I thought the Lebanonese and Egyptian governments settled for peace, and were trying to get along with Israel. But then that pi$$ed off the Jordanians and Syrians etc they didnt like the idea of Egypt and Lebanon working things out with Israel.
I'm not sure if my facts are right but I stand here an aimed target to anyone who wants to set me right.   

You do know that the majority of mosques and Islamic Schools are funded by the Muslims and not the state. The way I see it is we dont need the state to build things like mosques and schools as if we really want them we can fund them ourself which more times than not we do. I agree immigrants should try to learn the language but thats when it stops.  Blunkett tried to say immigrants should speak English in their homes which is crazy.  Surely people can speak whatever language they want in their own home.

I dont think you can cap immigration.  What happens once the quota is filled and then suddenly you have a humatarian crisi somwehere and people need to migrate to avoid death.  Do you say "sorry we cant accept you as we have already filled or quota".  The truth is the immigration issues in the UK are nowhere near as bad as what some of the tabloids make them out to be. 

The Jews claim to Palestine is
1. Torah has told them it was given to them by God. (Many Jews reject this claim)
2. They have lived theire for thousands of years and the original people of that land.  Again this has never been proved and the Bible even talks of a people called the cannites who resided in Palestine and the Jews are told to kill every single one without sparing a single soul.

Their has always been a Jewish population in Palestine and they lived their without their own actual state and got on fine. However once the Zionist ideology was born things changed.

Egypt and Jordan (traitors) signed peace treaties with Israel.  In reality all the Arab states have been at peace with Israel and are their to protect Israel. They may publically say they dont recognise Israel but in reality they do.  They see Palestine as a problem and would rather see it go away.

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Thanks for that clarification on that Puroresu.

Just one more question, why exactly are Egypt and Jordan traitors if they want peace ?

[Big Niall]

Personally, I welcome immigrants to Ireland. They come here, educated, wanting to work (most of them), do jobs to help the economy grow, spend their money so others make money, pay taxes etc.

I agree that they should not be given citizenship until they can speak English. Also basic lessons about how the country runs and English culture should be given. Nigerians in Ireland had to be taught what a queue is as they don't have them and were skipping lines of people and p!ssing us off. just a misunderstanding.

Also, much of British culture is based on immigration, curries,kebabs,tea,hygene,royal family etc. As Britain spread its great knowledge to the rest of the world, one of Britains strenghts was that it was willing to learn stuff too.

What p!sses me off is that in my small country we have 100,000 lazy Irish people who could get a job tomorrow - they should get NO dole, as work is there if they want it.

[woof woof !]

Same thought crossed my mind Bamaga Man.

Also if this is true

(quote puroresu) "In reality all the Arab states have been at peace with Israel and are their to protect Israel. They may publically say they dont recognise Israel but in reality they do.  They see Palestine as a problem and would rather see it go away."

then surely all Arab states by pororesus' definition are traitors ?

[metalhead]

Thanks for that clarification on that Puroresu.

Just one more question, why exactly are Egypt and Jordan traitors if they want peace ?

They aren't traitors?!

Lebanon wanted to do the samething after 1982 but things then got worst!

B*llox if you ask me!

Anyways good news, ceasefire may commence early next week or maybe on sunday! the UN have decided to stop the war (AT F*CKING LAST) and they put list of demands for israel to review. Olmert just said he approves the text that he has been given to and urges his fellow ministers to follow.