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[aCe']

No actually if you were the last man standing you would want to see if you can keep the run going...

so atleast in my case i wont be picking any team more than once until i've been knocked out...

oh and anyone who picked chelsea for the first game should be kicked out... that was fcking frustrating to watch....

[bigmick]

Would that be rule number 4 in Dundalks list? I may be wrong....

It is, but then someone came up with the idea of re-joining the game once everyone has been eliminated.  Maybe it was assumed, maybe it wasn't, but Mick was just saying that once everything is "restarted"from everyone being eliminated, it actually isnt "restarting" .  Since the cant pick the same team twice should carry over until all 20 are chosen.

See, even though I was talking utter b0ll0cks a decent idea still came out if it   

[baldricks_cunning_plan]

I'll see you all when I'm back in since Blackburn were typical Blackburn today. Absolutely useless in front of goal, ah well. We live and learn and I don't like winning everything, thought I'd give one of you mortals a go.

[Dundalk]

Whoever wins the first round will win and that will be that.

The second round will be reset and everyone will start again from scratch, anyone who wasn't in the first round can join up if they want in the second round

[JoeTerp]

Would that be rule number 4 in Dundalks list? I may be wrong....

It is, but then someone came up with the idea of re-joining the game once everyone has been eliminated.  Maybe it was assumed, maybe it wasn't, but Mick was just saying that once everything is "restarted"from everyone being eliminated, it actually isnt "restarting" .  Since the cant pick the same team twice should carry over until all 20 are chosen.

See, even though I was talking utter b0ll0cks a decent idea still came out if it   

half decent, imo 

I do like Dundalks suggestion of rewarding everybody that makes it to the last round before the mini champion is determined.

I would also throw out the idea of "diminishing returns" in that you reward the first last man standing more, and then either treat all the other "last" men standing the same or continue to digress.  This idea is a little more crackpot and possibly over complicated, but it does keep intact of the original notion of the game in that if you lose your out for good, so picking at the beginning needs to be more careful, and rid the balance of making sure you get it right/not screwing over your chances to advance in later weeks.

Again just a suggestion.


But BigMick's suggestion seems too me like too much of a welfare system. If the first LMS is determined in round 7, when the game restarts with all the new players, he will only get to pick from 13 teams, while ppl who f.ecked it up in week 1 can still pick from 19 teams.  A big advantage for someone who messed up, and a rule that I think would just muddy the table with everybody in and around the same spot towards the end.

[aCe']

Would that be rule number 4 in Dundalks list? I may be wrong....

It is, but then someone came up with the idea of re-joining the game once everyone has been eliminated.  Maybe it was assumed, maybe it wasn't, but Mick was just saying that once everything is "restarted"from everyone being eliminated, it actually isnt "restarting" .  Since the cant pick the same team twice should carry over until all 20 are chosen.

See, even though I was talking utter b0ll0cks a decent idea still came out if it   

half decent, imo 

I do like Dundalks suggestion of rewarding everybody that makes it to the last round before the mini champion is determined.

I would also throw out the idea of "diminishing returns" in that you reward the first last man standing more, and then either treat all the other "last" men standing the same or continue to digress.  This idea is a little more crackpot and possibly over complicated, but it does keep intact of the original notion of the game in that if you lose your out for good, so picking at the beginning needs to be more careful, and rid the balance of making sure you get it right/not screwing over your chances to advance in later weeks.

Again just a suggestion.


But BigMick's suggestion seems too me like too much of a welfare system. If the first LMS is determined in round 7, when the game restarts with all the new players, he will only get to pick from 13 teams, while ppl who f.ecked it up in week 1 can still pick from 19 teams.  A big advantage for someone who messed up, and a rule that I think would just muddy the table with everybody in and around the same spot towards the end.

how is that "diminishing returns" agains  ?! 

[Dundalk]

New rule added in opening post

Rule 10

[JoeTerp]

Would that be rule number 4 in Dundalks list? I may be wrong....

It is, but then someone came up with the idea of re-joining the game once everyone has been eliminated.  Maybe it was assumed, maybe it wasn't, but Mick was just saying that once everything is "restarted"from everyone being eliminated, it actually isnt "restarting" .  Since the cant pick the same team twice should carry over until all 20 are chosen.

See, even though I was talking utter b0ll0cks a decent idea still came out if it   

half decent, imo 

I do like Dundalks suggestion of rewarding everybody that makes it to the last round before the mini champion is determined.

I would also throw out the idea of "diminishing returns" in that you reward the first last man standing more, and then either treat all the other "last" men standing the same or continue to digress.  This idea is a little more crackpot and possibly over complicated, but it does keep intact of the original notion of the game in that if you lose your out for good, so picking at the beginning needs to be more careful, and rid the balance of making sure you get it right/not screwing over your chances to advance in later weeks.

Again just a suggestion.


But BigMick's suggestion seems too me like too much of a welfare system. If the first LMS is determined in round 7, when the game restarts with all the new players, he will only get to pick from 13 teams, while ppl who f.ecked it up in week 1 can still pick from 19 teams.  A big advantage for someone who messed up, and a rule that I think would just muddy the table with everybody in and around the same spot towards the end.

how is that "diminishing returns" agains  ?! 

each person to become the next LMS earns less bonus points that the one before.

[aCe']

Would that be rule number 4 in Dundalks list? I may be wrong....

It is, but then someone came up with the idea of re-joining the game once everyone has been eliminated.  Maybe it was assumed, maybe it wasn't, but Mick was just saying that once everything is "restarted"from everyone being eliminated, it actually isnt "restarting" .  Since the cant pick the same team twice should carry over until all 20 are chosen.

See, even though I was talking utter b0ll0cks a decent idea still came out if it   

half decent, imo 

I do like Dundalks suggestion of rewarding everybody that makes it to the last round before the mini champion is determined.

I would also throw out the idea of "diminishing returns" in that you reward the first last man standing more, and then either treat all the other "last" men standing the same or continue to digress.  This idea is a little more crackpot and possibly over complicated, but it does keep intact of the original notion of the game in that if you lose your out for good, so picking at the beginning needs to be more careful, and rid the balance of making sure you get it right/not screwing over your chances to advance in later weeks.

Again just a suggestion.


But BigMick's suggestion seems too me like too much of a welfare system. If the first LMS is determined in round 7, when the game restarts with all the new players, he will only get to pick from 13 teams, while ppl who f.ecked it up in week 1 can still pick from 19 teams.  A big advantage for someone who messed up, and a rule that I think would just muddy the table with everybody in and around the same spot towards the end.

how is that "diminishing returns" agains  ?! 

each person to become the next LMS earns less bonus points that the one before.

how does that work again ?

i mean lets say i win ROUND1 of the LMS yea... i get all the 1 points from advancing through the rounds (say 7 points for 7 rounds) then as winner i get an extra 3points.... what happens in ROUND2 when everyone is back ?

[JoeTerp]

Would that be rule number 4 in Dundalks list? I may be wrong....

It is, but then someone came up with the idea of re-joining the game once everyone has been eliminated.  Maybe it was assumed, maybe it wasn't, but Mick was just saying that once everything is "restarted"from everyone being eliminated, it actually isnt "restarting" .  Since the cant pick the same team twice should carry over until all 20 are chosen.

See, even though I was talking utter b0ll0cks a decent idea still came out if it   

half decent, imo 

I do like Dundalks suggestion of rewarding everybody that makes it to the last round before the mini champion is determined.

I would also throw out the idea of "diminishing returns" in that you reward the first last man standing more, and then either treat all the other "last" men standing the same or continue to digress.  This idea is a little more crackpot and possibly over complicated, but it does keep intact of the original notion of the game in that if you lose your out for good, so picking at the beginning needs to be more careful, and rid the balance of making sure you get it right/not screwing over your chances to advance in later weeks.

Again just a suggestion.


But BigMick's suggestion seems too me like too much of a welfare system. If the first LMS is determined in round 7, when the game restarts with all the new players, he will only get to pick from 13 teams, while ppl who f.ecked it up in week 1 can still pick from 19 teams.  A big advantage for someone who messed up, and a rule that I think would just muddy the table with everybody in and around the same spot towards the end.

how is that "diminishing returns" agains  ?! 

each person to become the next LMS earns less bonus points that the one before.

how does that work again ?

i mean lets say i win ROUND1 of the LMS yea... i get all the 1 points from advancing through the rounds (say 7 points for 7 rounds) then as winner i get an extra 3points.... what happens in ROUND2 when everyone is back ?

Dundalk has set the standard at 5 points bonus on top of all the 1 point for each round if you win.  My suggestion would be if you become the 2nd person to be LMS, maybe you only deserve 4 points. and if your the third person, 3 points,  (then probably just keep it at three if there are any more LMSs)   that is the only tweak I was throwing out there.

It all depends on whether you think that is something to prioritize or not. Considering the nature of the game, I think its worth a think, and imo the only reason NOT to do it would be to keep things simple, which I definitely understand why that would be prioritized 

[aCe']

Would that be rule number 4 in Dundalks list? I may be wrong....

It is, but then someone came up with the idea of re-joining the game once everyone has been eliminated.  Maybe it was assumed, maybe it wasn't, but Mick was just saying that once everything is "restarted"from everyone being eliminated, it actually isnt "restarting" .  Since the cant pick the same team twice should carry over until all 20 are chosen.

See, even though I was talking utter b0ll0cks a decent idea still came out if it   

half decent, imo 

I do like Dundalks suggestion of rewarding everybody that makes it to the last round before the mini champion is determined.

I would also throw out the idea of "diminishing returns" in that you reward the first last man standing more, and then either treat all the other "last" men standing the same or continue to digress.  This idea is a little more crackpot and possibly over complicated, but it does keep intact of the original notion of the game in that if you lose your out for good, so picking at the beginning needs to be more careful, and rid the balance of making sure you get it right/not screwing over your chances to advance in later weeks.

Again just a suggestion.


But BigMick's suggestion seems too me like too much of a welfare system. If the first LMS is determined in round 7, when the game restarts with all the new players, he will only get to pick from 13 teams, while ppl who f.ecked it up in week 1 can still pick from 19 teams.  A big advantage for someone who messed up, and a rule that I think would just muddy the table with everybody in and around the same spot towards the end.

how is that "diminishing returns" agains  ?! 

each person to become the next LMS earns less bonus points that the one before.

how does that work again ?

i mean lets say i win ROUND1 of the LMS yea... i get all the 1 points from advancing through the rounds (say 7 points for 7 rounds) then as winner i get an extra 3points.... what happens in ROUND2 when everyone is back ?

Dundalk has set the standard at 5 points bonus on top of all the 1 point for each round if you win.  My suggestion would be if you become the 2nd person to be LMS, maybe you only deserve 4 points. and if your the third person, 3 points,  (then probably just keep it at three if there are any more LMSs)   that is the only tweak I was throwing out there.

It all depends on whether you think that is something to prioritize or not. Considering the nature of the game, I think its worth a think, and imo the only reason NOT to do it would be to keep things simple, which I definitely understand why that would be prioritized 

doesnt really matter much.. im going to win all the rounds so its not even a contest as far as im concerned...

[laza]

F..k me, its gone from a simple internet game to the houses of Parliament

I would blame BigMick and his one liner posts but I think rotate the bile and land on Joe for using terms like welfare system

[Toffeehater]

DD , whats the point of letting people join up from gameweek 2 , that would be unfair has they would still have all the 20 teams to  pick from whereas all those would only have 19 , unless you've totally changed the rules and i've not read em

[Toffeehater]

Me and Con were the only two who picked west ham , in zola we trust

[JoeTerp]

DD , whats the point of letting people join up from gameweek 2 , that would be unfair has they would still have all the 20 teams to  pick from whereas all those would only have 19 , unless you've totally changed the rules and i've not read em

but they would have 0 points with 20 to choose while everybody else has 1 point with 19 to choose.

Plus I think he said round 2 anyway, which I read as joining after the first LMS is named.  They would be starting with the same amount of points as all those idiots that picked Villa (don't look up who I picked    )