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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:29 am

Judge, in the early sixties you could buy it from the Sandoz Laboritories in Switzerland,
Actually it is more correct to say "LSD was not illegal" rather than "LSD was legal" . Ken Kersey (the author of "One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest " )  imported a couple of gallons of the stuff after he was given it whilst participating in a government drug reseach programme.
Like many drugs "Acid" was not classified as illegal until the authorities saw it (in their view) as a problem. Even Coca Cola originally contained cocaine hence the name. Thats when coke really was "The Real Thing "
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Postby 106-1093504160 » Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:55 am

aye :D  but legislation in this country did prevent the use of such drugs by persons, if found on them, as illegal, even though there was no law covering these substances.
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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:02 am

What legislation ? how can something be deemed illegal if as you say there was no law covering them ? Sounds boll ox to me , where did you get this idea ?
Any half decent lawer would have had a field day defending a client accused of something for which there is no law against .
What to start with would be the charge ???
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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:13 am

Checking the net,
LSD was only made illegal in the uk in 1966 and 1967 in the usa , up until those dates use and possesion was not a criminal offence.
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Postby 106-1093504160 » Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:15 am

bit of a paradox woof isnt it, if the substance has no legislation covering its effects, then ineffect it cannot be used at all. all products in this country must pass government tests before license is passed. no product can be used by anyone unless it is recognised by the english FDA.
is that more clear
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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:24 am

Well your talking now about product licensing , we weren't actually popping into Boots and trying to buy the stuff over the counter .
We weren't discussing the legality of manufacturing and marketing the stuff , we were talking more about the possesion and consumption of it . Well at least I was.
Is that more clear ? :D
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Postby 106-1093504160 » Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:29 am

i think your either missing the point or ive not explained myself well enough.

bottom line a product, be it cornflakes or cannabis, cannot be used by any one in this country unless it has been recognised by the government. Substances brouught into the UK without full disclosure are not allowed to be consumed by any of the population, whether it be bought in Boots or off a street vendor
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Postby 106-1093504160 » Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:29 am

in short, you cannot possess or consume it - period
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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:08 am

That may well be the case now. However in the mid sixties the issue of the possesion and consumption of unlicensed substances was still very much under debate.
There are reams and reams of pages on this subject on the net . From the pages I've read I find none that support your assertion Perhaps you can give me your source ? .
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Postby taff » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:13 am

Books please

Try Life of Pi

By the way Cary Grant used LSD treatment as part of a revolutionary way of treating depression in the 50's.

I have to agree with woof sorry Judge.
Cocaine and Opium were available in Harrods at the start of the century now theyre available in the alleyways around Harrods

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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:21 am

Sorry Taff , me and Judge were in here alone so we whiled away the time with yet another diversion.
Back to the books '

My 4th choice .
History of Possesion and Consumption of Unlicensed Substances
(A great users guide to another world)
( by Prof Herman Von Woof )  :D  :D  :D
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Postby 106-1093504160 » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:47 am

gotta go. try the home office 1964, legislation and policy

have a good day though
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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:00 pm

Just did , no mention of the issue we were discussing .
Where next ?
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Postby taff » Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:23 pm

Check out fast food nation the author has also done one on cannabis
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Postby glambertino » Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:42 pm

speaking of LSD, Timothy Leary´s "Psychedelic Experience" is an interesting read and I'd also recommend anything by Gore Vidal, especially "United States: Essays 1952 to 1992"
Oh, and "The Holographic Universe" by Michael Talbot is excellent.
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