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[metalhead]

My bad, gots my figure all wrong

But wtf man, where the f*ck did I exaggerate? I said killing people is wrong. Whether its 1 or 2 or 3000....

Daws s@int sends his regards mate

[dawson99]

My bad, gots my figure all wrong

But wtf man, where the f*ck did I exaggerate? I said killing people is wrong. Whether its 1 or 2 or 3000....

Daws s@int sends his regards mate

tell s@int he's dead to me 

[metalhead]

I will deliver the bad news

[andy_g]

both of you get a room?
Kenny Kant hehe

If he's got nothing to add to this thread apart from taking the pi$$ out of me, he can feck off - fed up with him.

bloody hell, what's up with you, mr sensitive? i posted the pic cos i had the feeling the thread was now going to go the way of so many others. no personal slights were aimed at anyone.

[dawson99]

both of you get a room?
Kenny Kant hehe

If he's got nothing to add to this thread apart from taking the pi$$ out of me, he can feck off - fed up with him.

bloody hell, what's up with you, mr sensitive? i posted the pic cos i had the feeling the thread was now going to go the way of so many others. no personal slights were aimed at anyone.

I think Kenny is upset as I said that I knew muslims who were against attacking the west? Was he telling me to feck off or you?

[lakes10]

I know plenty of people who share his concerns about the 'Islamification of the west' however the difference between those and Breivek is that he is a psycho.

you are so right mate, I was working in London the other day and and there is a real fear of Islamification and shocked to find the fear was bigger in the Black community than it was in the white community.
I was working with the local leaders of the black community and they spoke about this a lot and said that there are now gangs in some areas of east london that go out looking for anyone to do with Islam and beat them up.

we (uk) are going to have some very testing times ahead.

[SouthCoastShankly]

There has always been a concern that right wing views are more prone to violence and extreme methods. Actually it's more than a concern it is a fact, pretty much all fascist regimes are violent and authoritarian. That is why far right beliefs and groups in democratic countries rarely are successful and normally only represent a small minority of the population.

[andy_g]

I think Kenny is upset as I said that I knew muslims who were against attacking the west? Was he telling me to feck off or you?

both of us probably. i think he's got the painters in.

[Kenny Kan]

I think Kenny is upset as I said that I knew muslims who were against attacking the west? Was he telling me to feck off or you?

Are you completely thick or do you just act the imbecile. How the feck did you make that assumption when I didn't even reply to your post.

[Kenny Kan]

There has always been a concern that right wing views are more prone to violence and extreme methods. Actually it's more than a concern it is a fact, pretty much all fascist regimes are violent and authoritarian. That is why far right beliefs and groups in democratic countries rarely are successful and normally only represent a small minority of the population.

You like the old minority/majority argument, the fact is only around 35% of Britain's population can be @rsed to vote. AND DISCLAIMER - I do not advocate far right wing parties  into office, I'm just saying many people are concerned with the issue of 'Islam', the issue is a hot topic here even in Australia, wherever this religion and it's peoples go, there always seems to be a concern, funny that. Yet, that doesn't make people who are genuinely concerned about 'islam', right wing fascists. On the contrary it appears we should be eagerly concerned with left-wing fascists who try to make this backward religion and law fit into a democratic society without consideration of indigenous folk when it clearly doesn't fit, if THEY migrate to places like Britain and Australia they should abide by these nations' respective laws. Instead of having left-wing fascists trying to push bills through parliament that ensures things like Sharia law become legally recognized in such countries.

I digress, never generalize like you do about the "minority", Anders Breivik's actions were abhorrent, nobody I know (myself included), condones such acts of terrorism - murdering children like he did. But because he was in the "minority" it didn't make him any less dangerous now did it. The minority/majority argument is weak at best and flawed on so many levels, I mean did you get to say whether 75% of the UK's laws are now passed by European legislation and are completely out of the hands of British law? Where is your referendum on the EU - still waiting I see.

[kazza]

left-wing fascists


You really are an idiot Bam. Stick to talking about plumbing or fishing as politics is a little beyond you.

Left wing means communist (socialist ie all are equal) and the opposite of that on the political spectrum are right wing (ie fascists we are more equal than the others). You cannot have a left wing fascists as it is like having dusty water (cannot happen as they live on opposite extremes). Islamic extremists are right wing fascists as is Anders Breivik. One says Islam is Awesome (in simple terms so you can understand) and the other says white Christians are awesome (again simplified so you can understand). Both do not represent the majority thank God as most of us are more sensible educated and moderate and lie somewhere in the middle. So yes, the views you share state that like those you complain about you too are a right wing fascist (from a 'political spectrum' point of view) and share a lot more in common with the Islamic extremists that you have an issue with than you may admit. Fascists tend to be less educated, more angry and bitter. Just because one is dark skinned and one is light skinned does not change where they sit on the political spectrum.

So how's the fishing?

[SouthCoastShankly]

There has always been a concern that right wing views are more prone to violence and extreme methods. Actually it's more than a concern it is a fact, pretty much all fascist regimes are violent and authoritarian. That is why far right beliefs and groups in democratic countries rarely are successful and normally only represent a small minority of the population.

You like the old minority/majority argument, the fact is only around 35% of Britain's population can be @rsed to vote. AND DISCLAIMER - I do not advocate far right wing parties  into office, I'm just saying many people are concerned with the issue of 'Islam', the issue is a hot topic here even in Australia, wherever this religion and it's peoples go, there always seems to be a concern, funny that. Yet, that doesn't make people who are genuinely concerned about 'islam', right wing fascists. On the contrary it appears we should be eagerly concerned with left-wing fascists who try to make this backward religion and law fit into a democratic society without consideration of indigenous folk when it clearly doesn't fit, if THEY migrate to places like Britain and Australia they should abide by these nations' respective laws. Instead of having left-wing fascists trying to push bills through parliament that ensures things like Sharia law become legally recognized in such countries.

I digress, never generalize like you do about the "minority", Anders Breivik's actions were abhorrent, nobody I know (myself included), condones such acts of terrorism - murdering children like he did. But because he was in the "minority" it didn't make him any less dangerous now did it. The minority/majority argument is weak at best and flawed on so many levels, I mean did you get to say whether 75% of the UK's laws are now passed by European legislation and are completely out of the hands of British law? Where is your referendum on the EU - still waiting I see.

Wow. If that wasn't going off on a tangent I don't know what is!

My point was purely to state that far right views (like that of Breivek) are a minority view. So only 35% vote, the distribution is still over all parties. If anything due to political ferver the far right create they're probably over represented.

[Kenny Kan]

left-wing fascists


You really are an idiot Bam. Stick to talking about plumbing or fishing as politics is a little beyond you.

Left wing means communist (socialist ie all are equal) and the opposite of that on the political spectrum are right wing (ie fascists we are more equal than the others). You cannot have a left wing fascists as it is like having dusty water (cannot happen as they live on opposite extremes). Islamic extremists are right wing fascists as is Anders Breivik. One says Islam is Awesome (in simple terms so you can understand) and the other says white Christians are awesome (again simplified so you can understand). Both do not represent the majority thank God as most of us are more sensible educated and moderate and lie somewhere in the middle. So yes, the views you share state that like those you complain about you too are a right wing fascist (from a 'political spectrum' point of view) and share a lot more in common with the Islamic extremists that you have an issue with than you may admit. Fascists tend to be less educated, more angry and bitter. Just because one is dark skinned and one is light skinned does not change where they sit on the political spectrum.

So how's the fishing?

You miss the point resident stalker, the left today are the new right - ergo facsist is apt. Here, for the simpletons (like yourself) is *tut" another definition of fascism:

1. often Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

Now Navy boy read this:

1. often Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent multiculturalism and intergration.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

So, before you go jumping to conclusions re my knowledge on such matters and making a fool of yourself - fascism today can aptly be applied to the left - remember Navy boy English is an arbitrary language.


Secondly stalker, because one has an issue with Islam does not mean they have an issue with the colour of someone else's skin. Another 'typically' left baseless & uneducated assumption to slur the beliefs of individuals. Left wingers seemingly like yourself are all to willing to assume the absolute worst in anyone who doesn't subscribe to politically correct stances (so long as they are white, and preferably male) on a broad swathe of issues. You don't have to stray too far from the beaten PC path on immigration, multiculturalism, race, gender, sexuality etc. to be accused of being some vile bigot full of hatred.

And as for the comparison to Islamic extremists you've made, do you see me sitting in some hell hole, God forsaken flat in the Middle-east - claiming benefits from it's state - pushing (not that I am Christian) Christianity onto Moslems while being a 'cell' and acting to make, plot and bomb a societal haven (like the hmmm, London underground for example) and kill the indigenous people of it's land because of a backward - pedophilia worshiping belief.

To be concerned about, and against the dissipation of one's indigenous culture - through the failure of "multiculturalism", isn't the same as moving abroad to a nation, despising every thing it stands for and being brainwashed into bombing and killing innocent people. And subsequently, to your dismay, this does not mean that I am a "right-wing fascist". Read this and take note as it may open your eyes and others' somewhat about this issue, instead of burying your head in the sand and thinking everything is hunky dory:- Taken together, they provide ample empirical evidence that scepticism about Muslim immigration is not limited to a "right-wing" political fringe, as proponents of multiculturalism often assert.: http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2349/ ... mmigration


PS. I've caught lots of Barra of late.

[red till i die!!]

[quote="[url=http://www.liverpoolfc-newkit.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=1165913#p1165913]

that there are now gangs in some areas of east london that go out looking for anyone to do with Islam and beat them up.[/quote]

id be more worried if i was walking through east london carrying an i phone than a prayer mat .

[kazza]

I've caught lots of Barra of late.