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by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:32 pm

bigmick wrote:Here's another name which sometimes gets mentioned. Predictably, some on here said he was "sh!t" but here he is anyway. Robero Mancini .

His first coaching job was with Fiorentina in 2001. He won the Italian Cup and finishing 9th with them in his first season. In 2002 he was poached by Lazio (Fiorentina were relegated the season after he left), and had to wait until his third season to win his first trophy for them, once again the Italian Cup. he did a decent job though, taking them to fourth in his second season and sixth twice.

In 2004 he was recruited by Inter. At Inter he won the Italian Cup in 2005 and 2006, the Serie A title in 2005, 2006 and 2007 making him Inters most successful coach for 30 years.

He is currently out of work and would in all probability jump at the chance to manage a big club in England.

Was it three - i thought it was two as i said in my post when mentioned - looking at managers on the younger upcoming side then i think he may well be worth a risk - a bit like zola - very intelligent and clever , thinking man with a bit of flair - harshly treated by Inter just because he didnt win the CL . I under estimated him when he was first mentioned - he did inherit a very good squad but he got them winning titles and out of all the untried younger managers i would pick him over people like billic,laudrup, blanc etc . He has shown he can win .

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:33 pm

s@int wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Oh definatly it was all of it combined with the lot - read thommos book mate and think rushes as well - the pressure of the job was the final straw for him . It was putting himself up there in the public eye after those horrible events and then having to deal with the footballing side as well and everything that came with it . He took the Blackburn job as he stated he wouldnt have to deal with the pressure from the fans labelling him a saviour . Its also been rumoured that Moores asked him back before GH came in and once again when GH was moving towards the end and he turned it down but was willing to take a minor role with the club . There was also an interview on Sky i think or maybe LFC Tv not long after he came back to the club saying in no uncertain terms that he wanted the main job again as he was happy and relaxed in life and just wanted to help with the kids as their was no pressure and he could hide away from the spotlight and enjoy the realness and rawness of football and Liverpool .

I have read Dalglish's book mate and he said if they had asked him again in the summer of 1991 he would have come back!

Thats 18 years ago Saint - thats a very very long time ago .

And Nanny i agree on Lippi - oustanding manager with Juve - won everything with them and then won the WC with Italy - i would take Capello just over him thou .

by **account deleted by request** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:34 pm

NANNY RED wrote:So noone likes me Lippi then

I do but he's not a patch on Dalglish ...... sorry Nanny. He can come in as Dalglish's assistant if it will make you happy

by **account deleted by request** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:39 pm

One more thing about Dalglish. Some people forget that he also achieved success with clubs on little money. At Liverpool money was tight when he took over because of the European ban, and at Newcastle he had to sell almost all the first team because the club was to be floated on the stock market. So he had to bring in a lot of freebies and cheapo players like Barnes, Rush and Shay Given.

by **bigmick** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:41 pm

Since you mention him S@int, Sven Goran Erikson .

Started his managerial career with Degerfors in sweden. In his first season he got them promoted from the 3rd to the second division. He was quickly picked up by Gothenburg, and he won the Swedish cup in his first season. He won the league in his thrid season, and in his fourth won the league, the Cup and the UEFA Cup treble, beating Hamburg 4-0 in the final.

He was recruited by Benfica, and won the League, the Cup and was runner up in the UEFA Cup in hsi first season. He followed up with another league the following season, before moving to Roma.

He wasn't a success in Roma or at Fiorentina, but on his return to Benfica he led them to a league title and to the final of the European Cup where they lost 1-0 to Milan. He had a couple of seasons at Sampadoria after thsi where hw on the Italian Cup, before taking over as England Manager.

At England he was pretty successful, but he left in 2007 and later that year became manager of Man City. City finished 9th winning both derby matches for the first time in years, and equalling their best ever Premiership finish.

He has since had a short and unsuccessful spell as manager of the Mexican National team, and a spell as director of football at Notts County.

It is estimated he would definately like a crack at a big club in the Premier League.

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:42 pm

He did great with a bit of wheeling and dealing - got the money from the Rush deal from Juve and was able to spend it on Beardo,Barnes and Aldo during the summer of 1988 and made one of the greatest teams ever graced the world .

At Blackburn he spent big thou (relative to that period), but bought the right players

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:42 pm

i posted this on another thread, some interesting names here.

Jose Mourinho - He has an amazing record. the kind you see in FM

Guus Hiddink - The thing that makes him becoming Liverpool manager a little less likely is that after his great success in south-west London, Hiddink was made a technical advisor at Chelsea, a post which he still holds.

Kenny Daglish - Liverpool legend and knows the club inside out.

Markus Babbel - Last season Babbel took Stuttgart side from the lower reaches of the table to the Champions League, and very nearly the Bundesliga title. This season has seen a rocky start but that can at least partly be the loss of main striker Gomez and the fact that Babbel is having to spend about half of every week studying for the UEFA coaching badge.

Michael Laudrup - Genius ex-player, currently unemployed, brought attacking football to Getafe and speaks English.

Martin O Neil - Has vast knowledge of the British players and can instill the passion and desire into this very demoralized looking team.

Laurent Blanc - Tipped for the hot seat at Old Trafford when Sir Alex Ferguson retires, surely the opportunity to get one over their Mancunian rivals is something worth considering.

Roberto Mancini - he had a superb transfer record at Inter.

Other notable mentions - Avram Grant. Frank Rijkaard. Slaven Bilic.

my choice? since Mourinho is a bit steep as he is still employed, Bilic doesnt seem to be leaving Croatia, Hiddink having a conflict of interests, O'Neil hapy at Villa, i would go for Michael Laudrup.

by **redbeergoggles** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:44 pm

If I'm not mistaken I think Ron Atkinson is between jobs at the moment ,purely to promote harmony of course

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:46 pm

Luciano Spalletti

Early career

Spalletti's early career in management led him to struggling Empoli, where he lead the Tuscan side to two consecutive promotions from Serie C1 to Serie A. However, it was at Udinese where he really began to make an impact as a manager. During the 2004–05 season, Spalletti guided Udinese to a sensational fourth-placed finish in Serie A, exceeding expectations and securing a spot in the Champions League.
[edit] Roma

Such success for a traditionally unexceptional side with limited resources attracted the attention of Roma. The capital side had come off a disappointing season, in which four different coaches had spells in charge of the club. Spalletti was offered the task of attempting to bring order to this chaotic side.

After an uninspiring first half of the 2005–06 season, he changed the team's tactics to attacking rather than defensive, but starting playing without any real striker (with an attacking midfielder as striker). On 26 February 2006, Roma broke the Serie A record for consecutive wins (11) with a 2–0 victory over Lazio. However, by the end of the season, Roma failed to reach 4th place, therefore failing to qualify for the UEFA Champions League. Spalletti also took Roma into the Coppa Italia final against Inter during the 2005–06 season but lost. However, Roma qualified for the 2006–07 UEFA Champions League, since Juventus was relegated and Fiorentina and AC Milan received point deductions, all as a result of the Serie A match-fixing scandal.

Spalletti's favoured formation is the 4–2–3–1 system, where he uses 4 defenders, 2 defensive midfielders, 2 wingers (both sides of the 3), 1 attacking midfielder, and 1 striker (Francesco Totti, another attacking midfielder, or without any real striker). This system proved effective upon its introduction during the 2005-06 season for Roma. As a result, the team climbed the charts from 15th to 5th place by the end of the season. During that time, Roma also went on an 11-match winning streak.

At the end of 2006, Spalletti was elected Serie A Coach of the Year and, in the following months, led Roma until the Champions League quarter-final after a 2–0 victory over Lyon at the Stade Gerland in the first knockout round. In the quarter-final, despite a promising 2–1 win in the first leg, Roma crumbled incredibly to a 7–1 annihilation at the hands of Alex Ferguson's Manchester United.

The team, however, succeeded in becoming the first team to defeat Roberto Mancini's Internazionale in all competitions that year, emerging with a 1–3 result at the San Siro, a match that the Nerazzurri had to win to mathematically claim the 2007 Scudetto against the only credible rival they had in the championship.

Roma would also win the Coppa Italia against Inter, with an aggregate result of 7–4; a resounding 6–2 in the first leg in Rome and followed by a narrow 2–1 defeat in Milan. It was the first important trophy in Spalletti's career, who only had won a Coppa Italia di Serie C with Empoli. But he was yet to add another piece of silverware to his cabinet, as Roma would again defeat Inter 0–1 in Milan in the 2007-08 to steal their Supercoppa Italiana crown.

In the 2007–08 Champions League first knockout round, Spalletti's Roma team became the first Italian team to defeat Real Madrid over two legs (2–1 in both ties in Rome and Madrid) and consequently also became the first European side to record two victories over Real Madrid in their Santiago Bernabéu home ground. In a repeat of the previous season's quarter final, Roma were again eliminated from the Champions League by eventual winners Manchester United. They did, however, succeed in their defence of the Coppa Italia, once again defeating Scudetto winners Inter in the final — a single match which Roma won 2–1.

In the 2008–09 season, Spalletti faced a very difficult season with Roma. At the end of the season, the team only managed to qualify for the Europa League with a 6th-place position in the league, after a very struggling initial period that left the giallorossi in the bottom half of the league for the first part of the Serie A season.

The new season saw Spalletti struggling with a limited squad, that was weakened further by the sale of Alberto Aquilani to Liverpool, and compounded by serious financial problems for the club. Roma started the season by taking part in two 2009–10 UEFA Europa League qualifying rounds, both easily won against Gent (10–2 on aggregate) and Košice (10–4 on aggregate); however, another poor start in the Serie A 2009–10 season, with two consecutive defeats (2–3 to Genoa and 1–3, at home, to Juventus) persuaded Spalletti to resign on September 1, 2009.[1][2]

Just taken over at Zenit thou

by **account deleted by request** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:46 pm

Surprisingly Atkinson and Rafa have both won the same cups in the last three years

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:48 pm

s@int wrote:Surprisingly Atkinson and Rafa have both won the same cups in the last three years

Now now behave boys :;):

p.s. so has wenger

by **account deleted by request** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:49 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
s@int wrote:Surprisingly Atkinson and Rafa have both won the same cups in the last three years

Now now behave boys

p.s. so has wenger

Yeah, we don't want him either

by **redbeergoggles** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:51 pm

Luciano Spalletti wasnt he in the Benny Hill Show ?

by **Benny The Noon** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:51 pm

s@int wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
s@int wrote:Surprisingly Atkinson and Rafa have both won the same cups in the last three years

Now now behave boys

p.s. so has wenger

Yeah, we don't want him either

Stop it we are trying to be serious here - your not supposed to make me laugh - that goes to you as well RBG

:angry:

by **NANNY RED** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:55 pm

s@int wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:So noone likes me Lippi then

I do but he's not a patch on Dalglish ...... sorry Nanny. He can come in as Dalglish's assistant if it will make you happy

Saint of course id love Kenny , but what i couldnt take mate an im sure you would feel the same, is if things didnt work out for him , can you imagine six months on an your standing there listening to some gobshi.te calling him a tw.at , im sorry mate but that would be hard to take for me, you know how uneducated an fickle football supporters are now days , they want a ten goal lead in the first half, I would be so scared if he failed Saint, i just wouldnt want that ,, ok i know im talking in hindsight here but would he an us fans be prepared to take that chance , id just hate it if he was smeared in anyway.

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