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by **redsince2001** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:07 am

Dont get me wrong Gerrard and Alonso are great players and all but when it comes to taking free kicks they too often make a mess of it...they cannot swerve the ball into the net like say a Ronaldinho or a Henry ..
Gerrard does an excellant job at winning free kicks just outside the box but very rarely do we manage to convert them into a goal.Thus there is a need for someone who can offer us a bit more quality when it comes to taking free kicks.
We'll be a far more potent side if we can make such a addition to our squad.

Barcelona - ronaldinho
Juve - nedved
Inter - adriano
ar.se- henry
AC - shevchenko,kaka
Benfica - simao
Manure- beckham

the point is that every team(other than chealski) that has managed to win their resp. countries
league have had a excellent free kick taker who could (or still can) score around 7 goals a season 4m them.These extra goals would surely go a long way in our push towards the title.(Dont take chealski into account as those other teams donts havn't 500m in a season and havn't been helped by someone 4m Russia with cash!)

cheers!

by **Sabre** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:15 am

Hi with that combination of colors I have my ocular globes melting and falling through my cheek.

That said, I think you are wrong. Even Diego Armando Maradona didn't scored in all the free kicks. Alonso and Gerrard are very good, who'd you bring to throw free kicks better, and at the same time not losing a bit skill in our team? Platini perhaps? he's old.

Cheers

by **azriahmad** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:16 am

No point having a specialist who can score from freekicks but do little else - case study Laurent Robert, not that good, only sometimes scores from freekicks, lousy attitude and so moody - unless you can find a real gem like Juninho of Lyon who IMHO, is the best freekick taker in Europe right now. He places his shots and does not rely on pure power alone. This guy, I fear, maybe too fragile for the EPL.

by **azriahmad** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:18 am

Like Sabre said, the only player whom I remember has a very high goals from freekicks is Michel Platini.

Zidane, Beckham, Roberto Carlos, Ronaldinho etc has their fair share of misses from freekicks.

by **DAV** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:22 am

what a dumb post

by **redsince2001** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:26 am

azriahmad wrote:No point having a specialist who can score from freekicks but do little else - case study Laurent Robert, not that good, only sometimes scores from freekicks, lousy attitude and so moody - unless you can find a real gem like Juninho of Lyon who IMHO, is the best freekick taker in Europe right now. He places his shots and does not rely on pure power alone. This guy, I fear, maybe too fragile for the EPL.

I never said that we wud get someone who wud only score 4m free kicks and not contribute to the game.

by **redsince2001** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:34 am

Sabre wrote:Hi with that combination of colors I have my ocular globes melting and falling through my cheek.

That said, I think you are wrong. Even Diego Armando Maradona didn't scored in all the free kicks. Alonso and Gerrard are very good, who'd you bring to throw free kicks better, and at the same time not losing a bit skill in our team? Platini perhaps? he's old.

Cheers

That's Rafa's job mate.

by **redsince2001** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:37 am

DAV wrote:what a dumb post

Dont need 2 be here if u find it dumb DAV.

by **72-1136150807** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:44 am

redsince2001 wrote:Dont get me wrong Gerrard and Alonso are great players and all but when it comes to taking free kicks they too often make a mess of it...they cannot swerve the ball into the net like say a Ronaldinho or a Henry ..
Gerrard does an excellant job at winning free kicks just outside the box but very rarely do we manage to convert them into a goal.Thus there is a need for someone who can offer us a bit more quality when it comes to taking free kicks.
We'll be a far more potent side if we can make such a addition to our squad.

Considering you have been a 'redsince2001' I am not too sure how long you have actually been watching football, but technically, neither Ronaldinho or Henry 'swerve' their free kicks, they 'curl' them ie; using the inside of their foot as opposed to the outsideof their foot as you do in a swerve, a la Roberto Carlos.

The last 'swerved' free kick that I can remember being scored in recent times was Jay Jay Okocha against Aston Villa in the Carling Cup qaurter final (?) and that was at least 2 seasons back!! Right foot from the right hand side edge of the box, swerved into the near post top corner....Class!!!

As for our own free kick takers, of course it would be nice to have a 'specialist', but as sabre has already stated, having a specialist doesnt ensure they will always score, also I mean you cant just buy a player on their free kick ability (maybe unless you are Chelsea I suppose!) they have to bring more to the team than that.

However, I do agree that we need to utilise our free kicks a lot better. It is the low ones that Steven Gerrard hits in some times from the angles (and corners) that dont clear the first man, that get on my nerves.

by **redsince2001** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:47 am

azriahmad wrote:Like Sabre said, the only player whom I remember has a very high goals from freekicks is Michel Platini.

Zidane, Beckham, Roberto Carlos, Ronaldinho etc has their fair share of misses from freekicks.

U can't be seriously suggesting that gerrard is better than ronaldinho and zidane at taking free kicks!

by **Garymac** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:49 am

redsince2001 wrote:Dont get me wrong Gerrard and Alonso are great players and all but when it comes to taking free kicks they too often make a mess of it...they cannot swerve the ball into the net like say a Ronaldinho or a Henry ..
Gerrard does an excellant job at winning free kicks just outside the box but very rarely do we manage to convert them into a goal.Thus there is a need for someone who can offer us a bit more quality when it comes to taking free kicks.
We'll be a far more potent side if we can make such a addition to our squad.

So do you suggest we resign Danny Murphy?

by **andy_g** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:53 am

how much attention did the topic starter pay to the free kick gerrard took against sao paulo? did he not see how much beautiful curl, bend , swerve or whatever he got on the ball that was only prevented from going in by an exceptional save? we have some of the best dead ball strikers in the country with alonso, gerrard, riise and hamman - and each with a different style of striking the ball. a much better option than just bringing up the 'free kick specialist' who's going to do a variation on the theme every time.

beckham can hit a free kick better than just about anyone in the game today but how many does he actually score? i'd love to see the real percentages but it's probably only around 50% or less. if a team has a specialist who's going to score, say, 75% of the time or above from a curled free kick from around the box they're only going to resort to bolton-esque tactics and start throwing themselves to ground at every opportunity.

by **redsince2001** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:01 pm

Just because he got one rt against Sao paolo doesnt make him good at it.

by **redsince2001** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:10 pm

Even if we can get someone who'll convert 50% it'll be good as i think our current conversion rate can't be more than 25%.Free kicks is the area that,atleast according to me, we need improve drastically if we are going to make a serious bid for the EPL crown.

by **azriahmad** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:11 pm

I refrained from saying that you posted a dumb thread like DAV did.

What I said was that Michel Platini has a the highest goals to freekicks ratio IMHO and that even the likes of Zidane, becks and Ronaldinho etc. , who are renowned as freekick experts, can miss because they are HUMAN not robots. Did I say that Gerrard ai better than them at freekicks?

Some people are so thick.

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