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[damjan193]

Talk of PSG buying Diomande and loaning him back for a year which means they may not need to move Barcola on for another transfer window at least.


Just a quick point on Dembele. Dortmund bought him for 35m Euros and he was supposed to be a real talent. They sold him to Barcelona for 148m Euros and he was supposed to set the world on fire. He didn’t do well and Barcelona couldn’t get rid of him, I remember we were interested in him, then Barcelona sold him to PSG for 50m Euros and he went down as a flop. Now at 29 he’s probably the best attacker in the world. You’d think that Diomande is that type of talent but obviously in the last 10 years prices have risen exponentially. Is 100m the old 35m? Would you rather have him for 100m or Bowen for 50m?

The thing about Dembele kazza is that if you put him in any serious league he'd practically be useless. He playes in a very weak French league where PSG are the absolute dominant force with or without him, and he plays 20 odd low tempo games a season with zero pressure and puts his efforts entirely in the Champions League. You can't afford that in England, you'd need him at 100% in every game, and for Dembele that's impossible, he'd probably spend most of his time injured like he did in Barcelona.

[Doeboy]

Dembele is quality but very much doubt his body would be able to handle the rigours of the Premier League. Think he only started 11 games for PSG last season and they kept him fit for the CL.

[kazza]

Liverpool have drawn up a three-man shortlist to replace Mo Salah now that it looks like they will miss out on both Yan Diomande and Bradley Barcola, including Lille's Matias Fernandez-Pardo, FC Koln's Said El Mala and Brighton's Yankuba Minteh - the Athletic

[redshade]

Quite like that Barcola lad, plays in weaker league but has shown he performs in UCl.

[kazza]

Quite like that Barcola lad, plays in weaker league but has shown he performs in UCl.

PSG put a valuation of 115m Euros

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Liverpool have drawn up a three-man shortlist to replace Mo Salah now that it looks like they will miss out on both Yan Diomande and Bradley Barcola, including Lille's Matias Fernandez-Pardo, FC Koln's Said El Mala and Brighton's Yankuba Minteh - the Athletic

None of them exactly inspire you with any confidence, Minteh is nowhere near a guaranteed 20-30 goals every season player like Salah, if the club are serious about replacing Mo they should be looking at someone like Oilise.......someone of that ilk.
We were fvcking dreadful last year, we need quality, is Minteh going to change us from a team who loses 20 games in a season to a team who loses 2?

[kazza]

Remember Salah wasn’t “Salah” when he came. You either buy ready made and pay a premium or take a gamble on a younger player with potential. Salah, Mane and Firmino were not exactly household names. They were prospects that became world class. Their talent, the manager and the system all had to come together. So replacing Salah is not going to be easy as his numbers, consistency and lack of injuries make him a needle in a haystack.

Apparently we are looking at Diomande’s Norwegian team mate Antonio Nusa

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Remember Salah wasn’t “Salah” when he came. You either buy ready made and pay a premium or take a gamble on a younger player with potential. Salah, Mane and Firmino were not exactly household names. They were prospects that became world class. Their talent, the manager and the system all had to come together. So replacing Salah is not going to be easy as his numbers, consistency and lack of injuries make him a needle in a haystack.

Apparently we are looking at Diomande’s Norwegian team mate Antonio Nusa

9 times out of 10 if you want a top player you have to go and buy one ready made off the shelf. Even with Mo, Bobby and Sadio we won the title just once, if you want to win the top prizes in the game on a regular basis you need to be exceptional. Oilise is exceptional, Minteh is not.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Dont forget our fortunes really changed under Jurgen not when we signed Mo or Sadio [Bobby was already here] but when we broke the world transfer record on a goalkeeper and then broke the world tranfer record on a centre half, it was buying 2 top, top players which transformed our fortunes not gambling on players who might come good in the future.

[UvS xR4GEx]

We've been linked today with UD Almeria midfielder Sergio Arribas. He's a 24 year old Real Madrid graduate playing in the 2nd tier of Spanish football. He's valued at around £40m and had 32 goal contributions in 47 games.

Looks like we are trying to find potential world class players for good prices instead of spending loads on the finished articles.

[Doeboy]

It's quite a difficult market for the type of profile we need in the wide positions.

Looking around and seems to be a lack of top quality wide players that are realistically gettable.

If Diomande does go to PSG, think we'll make a big push for Barcola but read his first preference would be a move to London with Arsenal but they look to be liked with Rogers and may pivot to Barcola if they can't get him.

Sounds as though we we need to see a couple of dominoes full before we make our move so maybe later this month or August which isn't ideal but we can't afford to bring in any old player in and need real quality so may need to bide our time.

[kazza]

We've been linked today with UD Almeria midfielder Sergio Arribas. He's a 24 year old Real Madrid graduate playing in the 2nd tier of Spanish football. He's valued at around £40m and had 32 goal contributions in 47 games.

Looks like we are trying to find potential world class players for good prices instead of spending loads on the finished articles.

I think it’s a good strategy for us but as long as we have a long term manager, if we flip managers every couple of years we will not see that potential reached.

[red till i die!!]

We've been linked today with UD Almeria midfielder Sergio Arribas. He's a 24 year old Real Madrid graduate playing in the 2nd tier of Spanish football. He's valued at around £40m and had 32 goal contributions in 47 games.

Looks like we are trying to find potential world class players for good prices instead of spending loads on the finished articles.

I think it’s a good strategy for us but as long as we have a long term manager, if we flip managers every couple of years we will not see that potential reached.

We don't have a long term manager though and Hughes looks set to be off soon as well.

We cant gamble on everything, as it stands we have lots with no xp and coming from inferior leagues so we need to be careful on how much of that we bring in. Leadership is another issue as these lads are going to need it to settle.

Iraola is going to have to perform miracles with the squad he's left with at the start of the season. They look set to leave him with a lot who aren't good enough in the hope he can duct tape it together. A 2 Yr deal with half of the squad needing to go and the other half going to walk for free in a year. Some long term planning going on there!!