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Postby Boxscarf » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:53 pm

Benny The Noon » Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:30 am wrote:The Greeks are shocking - anti football I call it , all the acting and diving and rolling around on the floor - led wonderfully in that department by Karagounis - it should be goal difference first that determine teams on the same points. Watching Greece is like watching a team full of Drogba's or Pepe's


It is anti-football, but with Greece given the lack of genuine quality apart from a couple of footballers I can understand it. It's teams like Chelsea and England who deserve criticism when they deploy anti-football because they are two teams full of quality players. I'd imagine most of Greece would love to have a midfielder of Gerrard's quality or a striker of Rooney's quality in their squad.

I agree that it should be goal difference, in which case Russia would have qualified (would they not?)

Given the state that Greece is in at the moment, I think they deserve a bit of fortune, a bit of happiness.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:47 pm

Yes Russia would have qualified.

Greece are in the state they are in because of one reason - Greece being greedy with the Euro and the problems they have made for themselves could soon hurt the UK badly.
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Postby damjan193 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:01 pm

As much as I hate Greece, I think they deserved to be in the quarter-finals. Too bad for them Germany will destroy them.
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Postby metalhead » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:57 pm

Holland were dreadful in this tournament, 0 points! nothing was working for them and their defenders are shambolic
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:02 pm

metalhead » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:57 pm wrote:Holland were dreadful in this tournament, 0 points! nothing was working for them and their defenders are shambolic


I blame Carroll - he did nothing all game long , pathetic display
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Postby Kenny Kan » Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:04 pm

John Terry has reportedly bought a Spain and German top, he doesn't want to miss out on the celebrations if either win the tournament.
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Postby jacdaniel » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:03 am

metalhead » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:57 pm wrote:Holland were dreadful in this tournament, 0 points! nothing was working for them and their defenders are shambolic


They were a mess.  Defence was a joke, Robben seems to have lost his bottle, Van Persie didn't live up to the expectations and Van der Vaart and Huntelaar seemed to be sulking that they weren't automatic starters.

I thought they'd do well...
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Postby 7_Kewell » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:02 pm

Kenny Kan » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:04 pm wrote:John Terry has reportedly bought a Spain and German top, he doesn't want to miss out on the celebrations if either win the tournament.

just the top?  I bet he's bought the entire kit, right down to the socks  :D
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:07 pm

jacdaniel » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:03 am wrote:
metalhead » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:57 pm wrote:Holland were dreadful in this tournament, 0 points! nothing was working for them and their defenders are shambolic


They were a mess.  Defence was a joke, Robben seems to have lost his bottle, Van Persie didn't live up to the expectations and Van der Vaart and Huntelaar seemed to be sulking that they weren't automatic starters.

I thought they'd do well...


you werent the only one mate, it`s not often the bookies get something badly wrong and they had them down as one of the pre tournament favourites alongside spain and germany.
considering they were world cup finallists two years ago their performance has been woeful
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Postby Boxscarf » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:10 am

So Croatia and Ireland go out. Spain and Italy qualify to face either England, France or Ukraine.

I think England and France will both qualify on 7 points, I suppose France will finish top and will meet Italy while England will get Spain.

Spain nor Italy have impressed me in this tournament, Spain have done what's needed to be done and Italy have qualified due to Ireland being extremely poor. Croatia is the team I feel sorry, they deserved to qualify, but what you deserve and what you get are often two very different things.

Spain weren't particularly impressive tonight, Croatia have shown teams how to play against Spain, however while the media and many fans are painting the current Spain team out to be the greatest team to ever play International football - I don't share that view and while I don't share that view, they will be difficult to beat, but they aren't unbeatable and had Croatia taken their chances they'd have won the match, because I felt they had the better chances tonight.

If England do beat Ukraine and do finish runners up in Group D, then I hope they'll relish the clash with Spain, rather than cower in fear. The worst thing England can do is start building Spain up and up like they did with the French. Never acknowledge your opponents strengths, never adjust your tactical approach to the opponents strengths. Focus on your strengths and your weaknesses, maximise your strengths and nullify your weaknesses. England have actually impressed me so far, I never gave England a cat in hells chance against the French, but they showed grit, determination and a fighting spirit, not usually seen with England. Again these qualities were on display against Sweden as England turned possible defeat into victory.

While England haven't been playing possession football (surprise, surprise), they have done well, they've done the basics well for the most part, apart from their attacking display in the first match and their defensive display in their second match. Hopefully they'll keep a clean sheet tomorrow and score a few goals. If Carroll starts I hope the lad scores a hattrick and puts himself in contention for the Golden Boot award (if they still do it?) England need the result tomorrow, so the pressure is on, but after that I hope they are able to play without expectation, play without pressure and just enjoy the tournament. Nobody is expecting England to advance past the QF's, least of all me. But if they approach the Spain match with a 'nothing to lose and everything to gain' mentality, there is no reason why England cannot upset the apple cart and dump the reigning Champions out of the competition.

I would love nothing more than to see England win Euro 2012, not because I'm a fan of the England team, but because I would love nothing more than to see Roy Hodgson lifting one of European footballs finest trophies. I like Hodgson, he's a decent fella, capable of good and bad like everyone else, but the abuse he suffered as Liverpool manager and the abuse he has suffered as England man has been unwarranted and I would love to see him make the editor of the scum newspaper who mocked his speech impediment eat a huge slice of humble pie in the process.

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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:39 pm

No Carroll  ??? If there is room for anything else in-between the  Rooney wank fest I hope they lose.  :D
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Postby metalhead » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:30 pm

Steven Gerrard was world class tonight, best England player nuff said
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Postby lakes10 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:42 pm

metalhead » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:30 pm wrote:Steven Gerrard was world class tonight, best England player nuff said

100% and has been for all 3 games.
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Postby metalhead » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:50 pm

England got lucky I thought, Ukraine should have had a goal and they missed a couple of chances. But what can you say about Gerrard's assist? Beats the defender puts in a cross which was deflected :p and rooney taps it in.
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Postby Kharhaz » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:03 pm

metalhead » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:50 pm wrote:England got lucky I thought, Ukraine should have had a goal and they missed a couple of chances. But what can you say about Gerrard's assist? Beats the defender puts in a cross which was deflected :p and rooney taps it in.


Ukraine should have been flagged for offside.

Agree about Gerrard though, should have been made captain ages ago.
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