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[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Firstly Brendan Rodgers spurns our advances ...He has much more work to do with his recently promoted team of perennial underachievers Norwich.
Klopp follows suit .... and laughs into his designer jackets sleeves .
De Boer says thanks, but no thanks Ajax are far less likely to be held up as a figure of fun .
AVB tells us he will not be rushed ,but he will consider it as soon as he moves out of his Zen like state .

This is fucking Liverpool Football Club, and we have  already been rejected by managers that should be on Aston Villa's wish list
not the most successful English team in the history of European football .

[stmichael]

AVB basically tried to change too much too quickly at Chelsea. It doesn't make him a bad manager. There are far too many people at that club who are just way too powerful The guy never stood a chance. The fact that Lampard referred to him as "the other bloke" the other day proves just how little respect the players there had for the guy. A bit like Hodgson with us it was a case of the wrong club at the wrong time.

[crazyhorse]

With AVB it waqs not just the way Chelsea played under him (and they were *****), it was the way he carried himself and acted. To me he showed a distict lack of class that will not work here.

Rafa had his day, but can he have another? since he left some players have been a little critical of him and his methods. However who is the alternative? if we are talking about Martinez I would carry Rafa back to Liverpool on my own back!

[RedAnt]

AVB basically tried to change too much too quickly at Chelsea. It doesn't make him a bad manager. There are far too many people at that club who are just way too powerful The guy never stood a chance. The fact that Lampard referred to him as "the other bloke" the other day proves just how little respect the players there had for the guy. A bit like Hodgson with us it was a case of the wrong club at the wrong time.

The point i'm trying to make is we need a manager who wont let the likes of Lampard and Terry walk all over him. If in life someone walks all over you, it's your fault for letting it happen. If you're the boss of something and you aren't able to command the respect of your staff, well...there's something wrong and you should never have been made a boss since you can't handle it. Are we to take AVB because our players are more decent human beings and will respect the manager and not the name? I don't think it would even work that way anyway. If AVB shuffled his way into the dressing room, head down, hands in pockets, mumbling, the likes of Gerrard and co would say "WTF?". They'd not respect him jsut because he's manager. Were he to walk in with his head held high, chest out, well he'd have to have the stones to back up such confidence because fakers are always found out.

In my eyes that's what AVB is...a faker. And he got found out at Chavski.

[RedAnt]

Rafa had his day, but can he have another? since he left some players have been a little critical of him and his methods. However who is the alternative? if we are talking about Martinez I would carry Rafa back to Liverpool on my own back!

And that's what angers people the most, I think, that we fired Kenny and had done no research into alternatives. The owners are looking kinda amateur to me right now.

[lakes10]

so one by one they are turning us down, says a lot, you have got to think they are being told a target anf how much they might have to spend to help them get there, if thats the case them i am worried.


we will end up with Bruce Arena at this rate.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

FSG arent being helped by these managers that publically turn us down.
why dont they just say nothing? if they dont want to be considered for the liverpool job then fair enough, but tell FSG not the world.
the likes of martinez and AVB dont stand a chance now imo, if they get the job the public perception will be that they got it because no one else wanted it.
that`ll be how the fans see it anyway, kenny f**ked off for someone like martinez or AVB.......i think given the choice the vast majority of fans would have rather gone into the new season with kenny still in charge rather than either of those 2.
starting to get a whiff of a farce about it this selection process, too many managers are going public.

[The Good Yank]

My idea, way out of left field.  Rafa as DOF, Martinez as manager.

[Boocity]

Firstly Brendan Rodgers spurns our advances ...He has much more work to do with his recently promoted team of perennial underachievers Norwich.
Klopp follows suit .... and laughs into his designer jackets sleeves .
De Boer says thanks, but no thanks Ajax are far less likely to be held up as a figure of fun .
AVB tells us he will not be rushed ,but he will consider it as soon as he moves out of his Zen like state .

This is fucking Liverpool Football Club, and we have  already been rejected by managers that should be on Aston Villa's wish list
not the most successful English team in the history of European football .

Some may see it as a poison chalice at the moment instead of great opportunity after what happened to Rafa, Hodgson and Kenny lately. Gone are the days when managers were given some time, its instant success or on your bike.

[Boocity]

FSG arent being helped by these managers that publically turn us down.
why dont they just say nothing? if they dont want to be considered for the liverpool job then fair enough, but tell FSG not the world.
the likes of martinez and AVB dont stand a chance now imo, if they get the job the public perception will be that they got it because no one else wanted it.
that`ll be how the fans see it anyway, kenny f**ked off for someone like martinez or AVB.......i think given the choice the vast majority of fans would have rather gone into the new season with kenny still in charge rather than either of those 2.
starting to get a whiff of a farce about it this selection process, too many managers are going public.

You have to question whether some of these managers have actually been officially approached or whether they ruling themselves out on speculation. another point is that its okay stating you are going to evaluate a huge list, some managers may rule themselves out due to ego, rule out themselves before being ruled out by the club. That ego may also give them the opinion that if we want them, then we should approach them only

[lakes10]

ade fahlevy‏@ade_lfc

RT @EzizAllamov: Liverpool are 7th most valuable football brand in Europe (€288.5m). Increase of value - 47%. In 2011- 9th. Progress




if that fact is right it makes me wonder even more why managers are turning the job down?

[RedAnt]

Firstly Brendan Rodgers spurns our advances ...He has much more work to do with his recently promoted team of perennial underachievers Norwich.
Klopp follows suit .... and laughs into his designer jackets sleeves .
De Boer says thanks, but no thanks Ajax are far less likely to be held up as a figure of fun .
AVB tells us he will not be rushed ,but he will consider it as soon as he moves out of his Zen like state .

This is fucking Liverpool Football Club, and we have  already been rejected by managers that should be on Aston Villa's wish list
not the most successful English team in the history of European football .

Some may see it as a poison chalice at the moment instead of great opportunity after what happened to Rafa, Hodgson and Kenny lately. Gone are the days when managers were given some time, its instant success or on your bike.

A good point.

I remember reading a letter in Viz some time ago that made me chuckle.

"I see that Andy Cole has recently announced his retirement from international football. I'd hereby like to take this opportunity to announce my own retirement from international football

-signed Anonymous".

Andy had been dropped from the England team and hadn't been in contention for a long time when he announced his retirement.

It's very noble of these managers to refuse a job they haven't been offered.

(Whoops! I've quoted the wrong post. Was supposed to quote Boocity.)

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

ade fahlevy‏@ade_lfc

RT @EzizAllamov: Liverpool are 7th most valuable football brand in Europe (€288.5m). Increase of value - 47%. In 2011- 9th. Progress




if that fact is right it makes me wonder even more why managers are turning the job down?

to be fair they are not turning the job down, they are turning the chance to be considered down.
if they agree to be considered but dont get the job it puts them in an arkward position with their current employers.
if they got offered the job itself it might be different.
obviously there are 1 or 2 like klopp and guariola dont want to know anyway.

[ethanr]

ade fahlevy‏@ade_lfc

RT @EzizAllamov: Liverpool are 7th most valuable football brand in Europe (€288.5m). Increase of value - 47%. In 2011- 9th. Progress




if that fact is right it makes me wonder even more why managers are turning the job down?

to be fair they are not turning the job down, they are turning the chance to be considered down.
if they agree to be considered but dont get the job it puts them in an arkward position with their current employers.
if they got offered the job itself it might be different.
obviously there are 1 or 2 like klopp and guariola dont want to know anyway.

That's exactly it.  Martinez and Rogers are both in really good with their club, and if they showed interest then they'd lose a lot of respect and love that they had.  Guardiola I don't think is interested in managing, but if he were he's in a good spot because he's not managing a club.  AVB is in a great spot because he wants to manage, and there will be no hard feelings because he's not at a club.  De Boer and Klopp have just had success at their clubs. De Boer may be interested, but he can't show it.  There's no reason Klopp should be interested.  He's got a good club and he's doing good work.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Firstly Brendan Rodgers spurns our advances ...He has much more work to do with his recently promoted team of perennial underachievers Norwich.
Klopp follows suit .... and laughs into his designer jackets sleeves .
De Boer says thanks, but no thanks Ajax are far less likely to be held up as a figure of fun .
AVB tells us he will not be rushed ,but he will consider it as soon as he moves out of his Zen like state .

This is fucking Liverpool Football Club, and we have  already been rejected by managers that should be on Aston Villa's wish list
not the most successful English team in the history of European football .

Some may see it as a poison chalice at the moment instead of great opportunity after what happened to Rafa, Hodgson and Kenny lately. Gone are the days when managers were given some time, its instant success or on your bike.

They could have told  Dalglish he had one more season ,and at very least retained a modicum of credibility ....  I think at least then we would have been
more prepared for the change ,and the owners could of  had the lions share of support from the fans in this search for a new manager .

I just think this whole fiasco could have been easily avoided if Dalglish had been afforded more time ,because the longer it goes on the more ridiculous
our situation becomes ,and the more desperate the owners look  .