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Postby kartiek » Fri May 18, 2012 8:00 pm

Boocity » Fri May 18, 2012 6:50 pm wrote:
tonyeh » Fri May 18, 2012 6:30 pm wrote:Can't believe the amount of people that want Benitez back.

Do we really want to go back to playing not to lose, rather than playing to win?
To go back to robotic subs?
To go back to bizarre and ridiculous decisions that have people scratching their heads?
To go back to bad man management that pisses off key players and makes them want to leave?

No thanks.

Things may be looking bad at the moment, but I hope that the owners don't jump to any more rash conclusions.


Spot on I don't want Rafa back either, give me an example of a manager thats succeeded 2nd time round


I think it's worth giving Rafa at least a decent interview and learning if he has changed his views over time or not. Surely I think he would have realized that it's not a good idea to get too arrogant and ***** off your key players like the way he did with Alonso. That decision alone literally led to the end of his career at Liverpool.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 8:01 pm

tonyeh » Fri May 18, 2012 6:30 pm wrote:Can't believe the amount of people that want Benitez back.

Do we really want to go back to playing not to lose, rather than playing to win?
To go back to robotic subs?
To go back to bizarre and ridiculous decisions that have people scratching their heads?
To go back to bad man management that pisses off key players and makes them want to leave?

No thanks.

Things may be looking bad at the moment, but I hope that the owners don't jump to any more rash conclusions.


that type of arrogance shows why benitez is better off not coming back.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 8:04 pm

Martinez hasn't been made manager...or am i missing something?? Lad, you're jumping to conclusions, chill...have faith. They want to make money from LFC as a BUSINESS....that's good for all of us, trust me
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 8:05 pm

7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 6:31 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 6:20 pm wrote:
7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 5:59 pm wrote:they're doing it right in my book, by drawing up a list of managers they want and interviewing them one by one.

The LFC job is still one of the best in world football, and it's clear that we're not short of candidates. Let the board do their stuff, and we'll have a new gaffer within 2 weeks.


by the sounds of it (although it changes by the minute) rafa isnt being considered for the job so how are they doing it right?
are they only interested in managers near the bottom of the league who havent won a thing?
this whole situation has turned into a farce, granted they werent helped by whelan the wigan chairman but even so they`ve made a pigs breakfast of the whole thing, it`s a pr disaster like the suarez thing but they havent got kenny or ian cotton to blame now.
we`ve had one paper reporting that they spoke to AVB while kenny was still in the job, going behind the back of someone who went to more liverpool fans funerals than this lot have been to games, not only that kennys number two steve clarke gets pictured at a baseball game with the owners while kenny is flying home after being offered a resignation package, is that how you show a bit of respect and dignity to a legend? then the club twitters fans for their opinion on who should be our next manager, then every approach they make to a potential candidate the world knows about it minutes later, then the club basically calls anyone who goes to a cup game this season a soft $*i*e etc etc
let the board do their stuff? f**king hell




1) Bringing Rafa back would be a disaster, he doesn't fit with FSG's model and would never be given the power he had before and he would hate that
2) Show me the proof the board approached AVB while Kenny was still in charge
3) They HAVE TO request permission to speak to managers who are under contract. They can't stop chairman of other clubs talking to the press, can they?

As for their comments on the cups, it’s a discussion about money...and money is now important because Liverpool is (for once) being run as a business. People moan about the lack of progress in the stadium, but the board are trying to get LFC earning money again so we can afford it. They are trying to make this club a success both on and off the field.

I trust FSG to do the right thing...they saved our club from being killed by the previous clowns and they have the club's best interests at heart.They are going to speak to the best people available to get the man who can work with both them and our great club.


there`s another f**king farce, we have got the spectacle of an internet blogger having to come out and deny he is advising fsg on our managerial appointment.
they have only been watching footy for about 3 seasons when they realised there`s money in it, and it shows.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 8:11 pm

7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 7:04 pm wrote:Martinez hasn't been made manager...or am i missing something?? Lad, you're jumping to conclusions, chill...have faith. They want to make money from LFC as a BUSINESS....that's good for all of us, trust me


the type of faith they showed in kenny dalglish? they send him home with a resignation package and take steve clark out to a rounders game?
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Postby metalhead » Fri May 18, 2012 8:11 pm

Ok ok ok, honestly is it me or is the wait killing me!! PICK A MANAGER ALREADY! :D
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Postby 7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 8:15 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 7:11 pm wrote:
7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 7:04 pm wrote:Martinez hasn't been made manager...or am i missing something?? Lad, you're jumping to conclusions, chill...have faith. They want to make money from LFC as a BUSINESS....that's good for all of us, trust me


the type of faith they showed in kenny dalglish? they send him home with a resignation package and take steve clark out to a rounders game?

They gave him 17 months and it didn't work. What's more, they weren't prepared to give him any more cash so that's why he's gone. Stop throwing your toys out of your pram and take a deep breath
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 8:18 pm

7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 7:15 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 7:11 pm wrote:
7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 7:04 pm wrote:Martinez hasn't been made manager...or am i missing something?? Lad, you're jumping to conclusions, chill...have faith. They want to make money from LFC as a BUSINESS....that's good for all of us, trust me


the type of faith they showed in kenny dalglish? they send him home with a resignation package and take steve clark out to a rounders game?

They gave him 17 months and it didn't work. What's more, they weren't prepared to give him any more cash so that's why he's gone. Stop throwing your toys out of your pram and take a deep breath


oh yeah i forgot, trophies dont count any more.
and seems your such a big fan of fsg i hope your going to come here and help fill the stadium in the cup games because i wont.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 8:22 pm

lad, you clearly don't understand what they're doing...so there's little point in explaining it any more because you obviously have no intention of listening
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Postby tonyeh » Fri May 18, 2012 8:22 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 7:01 pm wrote:
tonyeh » Fri May 18, 2012 6:30 pm wrote:Can't believe the amount of people that want Benitez back.

Do we really want to go back to playing not to lose, rather than playing to win?
To go back to robotic subs?
To go back to bizarre and ridiculous decisions that have people scratching their heads?
To go back to bad man management that pisses off key players and makes them want to leave?

No thanks.

Things may be looking bad at the moment, but I hope that the owners don't jump to any more rash conclusions.


that type of arrogance shows why benitez is better off not coming back.


Lad, it looks like you're new here, so do yourself a favour and search for some of the threads from 2008,2009 and 2010 and refresh your memory about Benitez.

There's a reason why he still hasn't got a job.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri May 18, 2012 8:32 pm

Yes why would we want the manager who

Won the CL
Then the FA Cup
Then another CL final
Constant top 4 bar last season
Best prem season in 20 years
Brought some of the best players in the world to the club
Beating everyone single top club including hammering both Madrid and the Mancs and being the first English club to beat Barce at the Nou Camp

Why would we want the manager who helped us do that


Some people's hatred of one person blinds them to the obvious and best choice.

Proven winner in Europe.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri May 18, 2012 8:34 pm

tonyeh » Fri May 18, 2012 8:22 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 7:01 pm wrote:
tonyeh » Fri May 18, 2012 6:30 pm wrote:Can't believe the amount of people that want Benitez back.

Do we really want to go back to playing not to lose, rather than playing to win?
To go back to robotic subs?
To go back to bizarre and ridiculous decisions that have people scratching their heads?
To go back to bad man management that pisses off key players and makes them want to leave?

No thanks.

Things may be looking bad at the moment, but I hope that the owners don't jump to any more rash conclusions.


that type of arrogance shows why benitez is better off not coming back.


Lad, it looks like you're new here, so do yourself a favour and search for some of the threads from 2008,2009 and 2010 and refresh your memory about Benitez.

There's a reason why he still hasn't got a job.


Yes all those threads proved correct didn't they - getting rid of Rafa worked wonders for us didn't it.

I bet you are all so glad we sacked him back then - the club has just gone from strength to strength as we power through the league.
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Postby tonyeh » Fri May 18, 2012 8:40 pm

Of course I'm glad we sacked him, ya *****. Liverpool was stale under his guidance and we were as frustrating as fck to watch, bar a decent run at the end of the 08-09 season, when he actually let the team play attacking football.

The very next season, back to the same old *****.

Just because the seasons after his sacking haven't turned out to be successes, doesn't mean that sacking wasn't a good thing to do.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri May 18, 2012 8:45 pm

tonyeh » Fri May 18, 2012 8:40 pm wrote:Of course I'm glad we sacked him, ya *****. Liverpool was stale under his guidance and we were as frustrating as fck to watch, bar a decent run at the end of the 08-09 season, when he actually let the team play attacking football.

The very next season, back to the same old *****.

Just because the seasons after his sacking haven't turned out to be successes, doesn't mean that sacking wasn't a good thing to do.


He got CL football to Liverpool every season bar his last when the transfer money was taken away as he lined up 3 quality players.

Rafa gave the club everything our current owners and supporters want.

The club has gone backwards since he left.
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Postby LFC2007 » Fri May 18, 2012 8:47 pm

Can't be a'rsed to go over the whole Rafa debate again. The crucial point for me if we do decide to go with him is that he's re-charged, ready to go, has learned from his mistakes and is prepared to work under the new regime, even if that involves less control than he might wish. I would think it an unlikely choice from FSG's perspective of wanting to avoid a backlash should it fail to work out but given his pedigree, his knowledge of the club and the Premier League, it has to be a serious consideration.
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