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Yup can't recall any myself only ones I've heard of are Viali, Zola, from Chelsea and Poalo Dicanio.

For some reason they don't cut it in EPL, considering it is a nation that produces good footballers. Isn't that CB from Arsenal Italian also, Calafiori..

Hopefully Leoni will shine here.

I really do think we need reinforcements. Losing Diaz, Nunez and tragically Jota we are light as we have brought in Wirtz and Ekitike. And I do not care how talented the italian kid is, he is 18. We lost Quansah, Gomes iv VERY injury prone and Konate is pulling a trent, walking for nothing. We NEED a cb. If we do not get 1 attacker and a cb we will have real trouble competing on all fronts this season.

Seems Doak is off to Bouremouth

Yup, thought he would've made it here.

Leoni in for £26m, Doak out for £26m in the same week, our net spend really is being kept low,  Quansah + Nunez = most of Isak's fee if we get the lad.

"Alexander Isak says promises have been "broken" by Newcastle United and "the relationship can't continue" as he looks to force through an exit this summer."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 934rgyg57o

It seems to be out and out war now between Isak, Newcastle and anyone else he gets in his sights.

Does this all now beg the question whether we want someone like this in the squad. We’ve done well in recent years to avoid such personalities. Even with all the contract stuff last season Mo, TTA & VVD they behaved professionally. I'm thinking this lad could be trouble.

I think he’ll join. But Newcastle’s lack of world class appeal is hurting their transfer business - top players don’t want to go there.

He’ll join on the last day of the window or in Jan. either way, it’s Newcastle’s problem and not ours.

Reg » Wed Aug 20, 2025 8:41 am wrote:It seems to be out and out war now between Isak, Newcastle and anyone else he gets in his sights.

Does this all now beg the question whether we want someone like this in the squad. We’ve done well in recent years to avoid such personalities. Even with all the contract stuff last season Mo, TTA & VVD they behaved professionally. I'm thinking this lad could be trouble.

If he was around 23 then I'd say we should stay clear, in few years he'd probably want to push a move to Madrid or whoever. As he is 26 in Sept we will have him for his prime years.

When a player wants out usually there is a compromise between both parties but Newcastle are making this really hard to sort out.

He’s saying the club lied, the club is saying he lied… this will not end well. It does seem to be getting distasteful with mud slinging and you must wonder do we want to be linked to this. To be fair though, if the club last year promised him things and didn’t deliver I can see why he’d be upset and take this stand. It does seem more about integrity with him if I’m reading it correctly

Yeah Newcastle seem to not know what negotiating is. Them saying "just pay the money we want" is just not how things work and it shows their lack of experience in the big time. And on top of that, their valuation is ridiculous anyway, no way is Isak worth even £120m never mind £150m.

In fact, I wish we moved on to someone else at this point tbh. With Ekitike looking promising, do we really need to spend so much on Isak? We could get Semenyo for half the price.

With all the ***** that's been thrown around between Isaak and Newcastle , Maybe I missed it ? but has Isaak actually put in a formal transfer request ?
I know, according to reports he's said he'll never play for Newcastle  again , BUT if that's the case why (if he hasn't  ?)  an official transfer request hasn't been submitted ?
Is it all about the money he would lose if he makes a transfer request official ?

No doubt about this mans ability and what a great addition he would be to the team BUT ! right now I'm not sure if he should get himself another agent or we just forget about Isaak and move on.
Your thoughts Lads ?

woof woof ! » Wed Aug 20, 2025 12:30 pm wrote:With all the ***** that's been thrown around between Isaak and Newcastle , Maybe I missed it ? but has Isaak actually put in a formal transfer request ?
I know, according to reports he's said he'll never play for Newcastle  again , BUT if that's the case why (if he hasn't  ?)  an official transfer request hasn't been submitted ?
Is it all about the money he would lose if he makes a transfer request official ?

No doubt about this mans ability and what a great addition he would be to the team BUT ! right now I'm not sure if he should get himself another agent or we just forget about Isaak and move on.
Your thoughts Lads ?

I think you are right about the transfer request but not sure about the rules that govern that. It is a good point and makes things a little more cynical. If he’s desperate to leave then why not do that.


ChatGPT search…

Why hasn’t he handed one in? Because doing so would cost him potentially millions in contractual perks, and even then, it wouldn’t guarantee that Newcastle would sell him. Instead, he’s chosen a public stance—making clear his dissatisfaction—while preserving both his negotiating leverage and financial benefits.


If this stalemate drags on until next summer, Isak’s situation could become much more volatile—because FIFA’s Article 17 rules would start to give him real leverage. Here’s what that means:

⸻

1. What is FIFA’s Article 17?
• It’s a regulation that lets players unilaterally terminate their contracts once they’ve passed a “protected period.”
• For players under 28, the protected period is 3 years from the date they signed their last contract.
• After this period, if a player walks away, the buying club just pays “compensation” rather than negotiating a normal transfer fee.
• The fee isn’t whatever Newcastle want—it’s calculated based on remaining salary, age, and other factors. Often it’s far below market value.

⸻

2. How does this affect Isak?
• Isak signed for Newcastle in 2022, so by summer 2025 he’ll be right at (or just past) the 3-year mark.
• If nothing is resolved, next summer he could legally buy out his contract or have another club do it for him.
• Newcastle would lose control over the price—they couldn’t demand £120m if the FIFA compensation panel says he’s worth £60m.

⸻

3. Why would Isak wait?
• More leverage: If Newcastle refuse to sell now, he can threaten to walk later for less.
• No loyalty bonus losses: Still avoids penalties by not filing a transfer request.
• Potential freedom: Next summer, Liverpool (or anyone else) could sign him without Newcastle being able to block the move.

⸻

4. What might Newcastle do?
• Sell him now to maximize value (probably £90–100m+).
• Dig in and hope to convince him to stay.
• Offer a new contract to reset the 3-year clock (but he’d have to agree).

⸻

Bottom line:
If Newcastle keep resisting this summer, Isak can play the long game. By summer 2025, FIFA rules allow him to leave far more easily—and likely for a smaller fee than Newcastle want. That’s why the club may be under heavy pressure to make a decision before the current window closes.

If Isak walks away after the protected period (summer 2026), the compensation Newcastle could expect might fall well below market valuations, possibly £6–16 million, depending on his new contract terms and any tribunal considerations.

This contrast with what both Newcastle and Liverpool are discussing (some reports suggest valuations of £110m–£150m) reveals why Newcastle would be eager to resolve things before the protected period ends.

kazza » Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:35 pm wrote:

woof woof ! » Wed Aug 20, 2025 12:30 pm wrote:With all the ***** that's been thrown around between Isaak and Newcastle , Maybe I missed it ? but has Isaak actually put in a formal transfer request ?
I know, according to reports he's said he'll never play for Newcastle  again , BUT if that's the case why (if he hasn't  ?)  an official transfer request hasn't been submitted ?
Is it all about the money he would lose if he makes a transfer request official ?

No doubt about this mans ability and what a great addition he would be to the team BUT ! right now I'm not sure if he should get himself another agent or we just forget about Isaak and move on.
Your thoughts Lads ?

I think you are right about the transfer request but not sure about the rules that govern that. It is a good point and makes things a little more cynical. If he’s desperate to leave then why not do that.


ChatGPT search…

Why hasn’t he handed one in? Because doing so would cost him potentially millions in contractual perks, and even then, it wouldn’t guarantee that Newcastle would sell him. Instead, he’s chosen a public stance—making clear his dissatisfaction—while preserving both his negotiating leverage and financial benefits.


If this stalemate drags on until next summer, Isak’s situation could become much more volatile—because FIFA’s Article 17 rules would start to give him real leverage. Here’s what that means:

⸻

1. What is FIFA’s Article 17?
• It’s a regulation that lets players unilaterally terminate their contracts once they’ve passed a “protected period.”
• For players under 28, the protected period is 3 years from the date they signed their last contract.
• After this period, if a player walks away, the buying club just pays “compensation” rather than negotiating a normal transfer fee.
• The fee isn’t whatever Newcastle want—it’s calculated based on remaining salary, age, and other factors. Often it’s far below market value.

⸻

2. How does this affect Isak?
• Isak signed for Newcastle in 2022, so by summer 2025 he’ll be right at (or just past) the 3-year mark.
• If nothing is resolved, next summer he could legally buy out his contract or have another club do it for him.
• Newcastle would lose control over the price—they couldn’t demand £120m if the FIFA compensation panel says he’s worth £60m.

⸻

3. Why would Isak wait?
• More leverage: If Newcastle refuse to sell now, he can threaten to walk later for less.
• No loyalty bonus losses: Still avoids penalties by not filing a transfer request.
• Potential freedom: Next summer, Liverpool (or anyone else) could sign him without Newcastle being able to block the move.

⸻

4. What might Newcastle do?
• Sell him now to maximize value (probably £90–100m+).
• Dig in and hope to convince him to stay.
• Offer a new contract to reset the 3-year clock (but he’d have to agree).

⸻

Bottom line:
If Newcastle keep resisting this summer, Isak can play the long game. By summer 2025, FIFA rules allow him to leave far more easily—and likely for a smaller fee than Newcastle want. That’s why the club may be under heavy pressure to make a decision before the current window closes.

If Isak walks away after the protected period (summer 2026), the compensation Newcastle could expect might fall well below market valuations, possibly £6–16 million, depending on his new contract terms and any tribunal considerations.

This contrast with what both Newcastle and Liverpool are discussing (some reports suggest valuations of £110m–£150m) reveals why Newcastle would be eager to resolve things before the protected period ends.

Cheer's Kazza , so much food for thought there. Thinking in particular about this portion

If Isak walks away after the protected period (summer 2026), the compensation Newcastle could expect might fall well below market valuations, possibly £6–16 million, depending on his new contract terms and any tribunal considerations.

  Wow, if we and Isak wait a year what a steal that could be !

Interesting info there kazza, steal it would definitely be next summer but hoping we snap him for this season.