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Sabre wrote:How on earth if they had the best keeper, players like Carrick that  offer more than our negative midfielders, the great Shrek III of England, did they get only 4 points more than us?

Especially considering how many things wrong you did find in our team last season.

Look Ace' denying that Manchester United have great CB is denying the obvious. But considering Van Der Saar better than Reina, or anything they have in the middle better than our last year midfield triangle, is denying merits to our team.

Quite simply, if there are many things wrong in our team, and so many positive things in our archrivals, their difference of points should have been higher.

So, where are you wrong, Manolo? Are we better than you give us credit for, or perhaps Manchester United aren't as fantastic as you like?

Or maybe, there's such difference between the two squads, but Rafa is a genius? tell me Manolo, tell me.

Or maybe you need to discover shades of grey Sabre. Ace's point is a valid point, Manure do have an excellent team, but so do we, the difference is perhaps strength of depth in the squad. Has Ace actually said that we have a team becuase I can't remember reading that.

Sabre wrote:How on earth if they had the best keeper, players like Carrick that  offer more than our negative midfielders, the great Shrek III of England, did they get only 4 points more than us?

Especially considering how many things wrong you did find in our team last season.

Look Ace' denying that Manchester United have great CB is denying the obvious. But considering Van Der Saar better than Reina, or anything they have in the middle better than our last year midfield triangle, is denying merits to our team.

Quite simply, if there are many things wrong in our team, and so many positive things in our archrivals, their difference of points should have been higher.

So, where are you wrong, Manolo? Are we better than you give us credit for, or perhaps Manchester United aren't as fantastic as you like?

Or maybe, there's such difference between the two squads, but Rafa is a genius? tell me Manolo, tell me.

Sabre wrote:

actually tipped us to win the league this season in the prediction thread so i must see something in our side that makes me think that maybe just maybe we arent as bad as you seem to think i think....

Let's put this it this way, post more about the reasons that push you to thing we aren't as bad as I think you think. Because the only problem that I have with you historically, is that when we get a draw and I log in here to just comment the mistakes and swallow the dissapointing result a bit better, I get depressing posts from you saying how shít we are. And when our rivals are visited, you paint them as the next wonder of football.

So simply Ace', just post a bit more aswell about the things you do like about our team. 50% positive, 50% negative, would be a good balance, no need to become a happy clappy.

I had this yesterday though Sabre, and as I said then, surely people should be allowed to post what they want One or two people on here, definately yourself included on this occasion are getting carried away with themselves.

A bloke asks who is the biggest threat to us winning it, I answer the question and get attacked because he says I didn't fecking mean that. I answer the question in the way that he means it apparently, and still get attacked. No response to the attacks from me, I just cop the flak anyway. Ace answers the question here, where he's been told by what's gone before NOT to talk about us, and you attack him for talking too much about Man Utd, or for what he's saying about them. Now you're telling nhim he should post 50% positive and 50% negative.

I've got an idea, why don't people just writehis posts for him that'll save any arguments or offence. While we're at it, GYBS can write my posts for me if he likes, that way he won't get himself so worked up.

Time to pull a few heads in methinks, place is getting a bit fecking ridiculous with the old thought police again.

Sabre wrote:

actually tipped us to win the league this season in the prediction thread so i must see something in our side that makes me think that maybe just maybe we arent as bad as you seem to think i think....

Let's put this it this way, post more about the reasons that push you to thing we aren't as bad as I think you think. Because the only problem that I have with you historically, is that when we get a draw and I log in here to just comment the mistakes and swallow the dissapointing result a bit better, I get depressing posts from you saying how shít we are. And when our rivals are visited, you paint them as the next wonder of football.

So simply Ace', just post a bit more aswell about the things you do like about our team. 50% positive, 50% negative, would be a good balance, no need to become a happy clappy.

What makes you think i give a fck about "the problems you had with [me] historically" ?! 

Thanks for the advice but ill post how i see fit thank you very much, if you want to see some of the "positives" i have to say about our team im sure having a read at my posts back in relevant threads would be a good place to start...

aCe' wrote:Let's put this it this way, post more about the reasons that push you to thing we aren't as bad as I think you think.

This is the line that got me. Why are we telling other people what to post 

bigmick wrote:

aCe' wrote:Let's put this it this way, post more about the reasons that push you to thing we aren't as bad as I think you think.

This is the line that got me. Why are we telling other people what to post 

Sabre wrote:I was trying to explain the frustration that makes me post a *sigh* because he asked.

I also tried to express that I have nothing personal with him (I don't know the guy) it's just that he's a bit pessimistic with us, and optimistic with the rivals, and by using "historically", I meant about the context of his posts, not this particular thread.

I don't think no that that makes me a police. Nor it means I got too carried away. And if it does, then, why on earth is ok you or anyone calls the people who see things positive as happy clappy?. Haven't you done so Mick?

I thought so, yes. Happy clappy is the opposite to calling someone negative. So if it's wrong calling someone pessimistic for what he posts, it's wrong to call people happy clappy and unrealistic. I think so at least.

Anyway, I take note of your post, and I'll try not to make similar posts to the one I replied to Ace.

As for your incident with Baldrick, it's ok your view and how you defended yourself, but I'm not Baldrick, and you're not Ace'.

P.S.


But the main point that you highlight is that I shouldn't tell people what to post. Ok, needless to say, I'm no one here to tell anyone what to post. It was a suggestion. And the suggestions can be ignored or accepted. What do I seek by those suggestions? trying to help about what I think it generates more heated fights.

You don't need my suggestions? perfect. But please, don't take my posts as thought police. THat's not quite the idea.

Sabre wrote:

surely thats different from trying to dictate how i post... anyways, suggestion noted... we move on..

Sorry, trying to dictate how to post wasn't even in my imagination, how could I possibly do that in the internet? and even more so in this anarchy forum? It's impossible. I didn't even consider it.

The bottomline was I don't have anything personal against you, and that I'm willing to read more positive things about what you like about our players and coaching staff. That doesn't mean you don't have to post the criticism stuff nor I dictate you anything.