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by **heimdall** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:25 pm

I agree with Sabre, we NEED a striker, it's a no brainer really. Come on Rafa go all out and get Villa by hook or by crook.

by **Dundalk** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:26 pm

There was talk of Rafa playing a more attacking team this year and that the formation might change. If this is the case I don't see us going out and buying a direct replacement for Alonso. I can ee him dropping Gerrard back ito the middle and Silva coming in and playing just of Torres.

Also who's to say Rafa will have all of the 30 million to spend,I know of 2 Americans would might like to see it coming their way instead

by **stmichael** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:37 pm

Some Liverpool "fans" astound me. I mean some guy (who's probably never been to a game in his life) was on the radio earlier suggesting Flamini as a replacement. What are some of these people on.

As for this Poulsen guy, he'd kick his own granny.

by **JoeTerp** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:42 pm

if your looking for a CM that can chip in with goals, I would like to throw in Michael Bradley's name into the hat. Was a goal scoring machine for Herenveen in his last year there (2 years ago) Scoring 16 league goals in 30 games. Then he moved to Mönchengladbach (would have moved to Birmingham if they stayed up), and in his first year in Germany scored 5 in 28 appearances on a poor side. He has only just turned 22, and has 6 goals and 33 caps for his country, where his dad asks him to usually sit deeper.

Probably not ready for the grandest of stages just yet, but if we brought in a more experienced player as well, then we could have 4 CMs not counting Gerrard.

but after we sign Aquilani, I think the priorities an a very talented out and out striker and someone that can cover for both CB and RB.

by **Reg** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:49 pm

Dundalk wrote:There was talk of Rafa playing a more attacking team this year and that the formation might change. If this is the case I don't see us going out and buying a direct replacement for Alonso. I can ee him dropping Gerrard back ito the middle and Silva coming in and playing just of Torres.

Also who's to say Rafa will have all of the 30 million to spend,I know of 2 Americans would might like to see it coming their way instead

He'd have to sell that to Gerrard first mate obviously.

by **Dundalk** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:49 pm

Maybe this Aquilani guy has had a bad run of injuries and they are out of the way now, remember Gerrard and all the trouble he had in his early years, he didn't turn out too bad

by **JoeTerp** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:53 pm

Dundalk wrote:Maybe this Aquilani guy has had a bad run of injuries and they are out of the way now, remember Gerrard and all the trouble he had in his early years, he didn't turn out too bad

and they didn't come around till Spaletti showed up, and he hasn't been the only one at Roma that has been injured all the time the last couple years either.

by **Dundalk** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:56 pm

Seen this elsewhere and is a good point and worth the read
(Id post a link but you have to be a member to view)

I imagine our scouting department has access to a lot more information and footage of Aquilani than we do. I bet the club doctor is better qualified to complete a long-term injury risk assessment than we are too.

People have assumed he was injured for all the games he didn't play - But what if he wasn't picked regularly at 18-22 because established players got selected ahead of him? What if one or two of the 6manager's he's played under didn't like his close-set eyes? There are all manner of things scouting departments can access that we can't. A manager like Benitez won't just have contacts in Spain; he'll be in touch with scouts and football men all over Europe - people whose judgement he trusts.

There are plenty in here who wanted us to sign Darren Bent because he was cheaper, had premier league experience and was the most prolific striker available - Whilst Torres was just a 10goal a season man who went down to easily in a lot of fans opinion - I didn't go that far but I was a bit wary of Torres purchase. I knew he was a good player but I saw him as a 2nd striker who didn't score the amount of goals we were looking for myself.
How many of us were upset to see Danny Murphy get shipped out and be replaced by some upstart with a bit of a rep, but no other big clubs interested in him? Who would have guessed Morientes would struggle so badly?

None of us can judge these acquisitions confidently, we can only trust... And if you don't trust the manager, it's just tough sh*t really because it is his choice to make and won't ever be ours

by **tubby** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:57 pm

Whoever we get I hope he is someone young whom we can get a good 5/7 years of service out of.

by **aCe'** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:59 pm

JoeTerp wrote:
Dundalk wrote:Maybe this Aquilani guy has had a bad run of injuries and they are out of the way now, remember Gerrard and all the trouble he had in his early years, he didn't turn out too bad

and they didn't come around till Spaletti showed up, and he hasn't been the only one at Roma that has been injured all the time the last couple years either.

i think he can potentially become one of the best midfielders in the world, no exaggeration... has it all in his locker, sort of like Gerrard does, and im sure his injury worries have more to do with the club he plays for rather than him being injury prone ...

by **tubby** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:00 am

The Times article just published (which incidentally says we sold Xabi for £35Mil) thinks we will tie up the Aquilani deal this week.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol....482.ece

by **aCe'** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:01 am

Dundalk wrote:Seen this elsewhere and is a good point and worth the read
(Id post a link but you have to be a member to view)

I imagine our scouting department has access to a lot more information and footage of Aquilani than we do. I bet the club doctor is better qualified to complete a long-term injury risk assessment than we are too.

People have assumed he was injured for all the games he didn't play - But what if he wasn't picked regularly at 18-22 because established players got selected ahead of him? What if one or two of the 6manager's he's played under didn't like his close-set eyes? There are all manner of things scouting departments can access that we can't. A manager like Benitez won't just have contacts in Spain; he'll be in touch with scouts and football men all over Europe - people whose judgement he trusts.

There are plenty in here who wanted us to sign Darren Bent because he was cheaper, had premier league experience and was the most prolific striker available - Whilst Torres was just a 10goal a season man who went down to easily in a lot of fans opinion - I didn't go that far but I was a bit wary of Torres purchase. I knew he was a good player but I saw him as a 2nd striker who didn't score the amount of goals we were looking for myself.
How many of us were upset to see Danny Murphy get shipped out and be replaced by some upstart with a bit of a rep, but no other big clubs interested in him? Who would have guessed Morientes would struggle so badly?

None of us can judge these acquisitions confidently, we can only trust... And if you don't trust the manager, it's just tough sh*t really because it is his choice to make and won't ever be ours

2 things come to mind after reading this piece...

1) yes he was left on the bench even when fit sometimes...but then again you'd have to look at the players Roma have/had...

2) same scouts who found Dossena ?

by **Effes** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:03 am

aCe' wrote:2) same scouts who found Dossena ?

Exactly my thoughts

by **JoeTerp** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:06 am

aCe' wrote:
Dundalk wrote:Seen this elsewhere and is a good point and worth the read
(Id post a link but you have to be a member to view)

I imagine our scouting department has access to a lot more information and footage of Aquilani than we do. I bet the club doctor is better qualified to complete a long-term injury risk assessment than we are too.

People have assumed he was injured for all the games he didn't play - But what if he wasn't picked regularly at 18-22 because established players got selected ahead of him? What if one or two of the 6manager's he's played under didn't like his close-set eyes? There are all manner of things scouting departments can access that we can't. A manager like Benitez won't just have contacts in Spain; he'll be in touch with scouts and football men all over Europe - people whose judgement he trusts.

There are plenty in here who wanted us to sign Darren Bent because he was cheaper, had premier league experience and was the most prolific striker available - Whilst Torres was just a 10goal a season man who went down to easily in a lot of fans opinion - I didn't go that far but I was a bit wary of Torres purchase. I knew he was a good player but I saw him as a 2nd striker who didn't score the amount of goals we were looking for myself.
How many of us were upset to see Danny Murphy get shipped out and be replaced by some upstart with a bit of a rep, but no other big clubs interested in him? Who would have guessed Morientes would struggle so badly?

None of us can judge these acquisitions confidently, we can only trust... And if you don't trust the manager, it's just tough sh*t really because it is his choice to make and won't ever be ours

2 things come to mind after reading this piece...

1) yes he was left on the bench even when fit sometimes...but then again you'd have to look at the players Roma have/had...

2) same scouts who found Dossena ?

and its even harder to get in when other people have been playing well while you were out, so now even though your fit, the manager might not want to cause disruption to the team.

by **Scottbot** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:20 am

bigmick wrote:Joe Cole. We need someone dare I say it who does the Lampard role for us. He needs to be hitting the box, getting on the end of things, starting things, opening teams up. Cole was always a central midfielder until Mourinho converted him, he could slot in in front of Mash and in and around Stevie. He'd score goals, make goals and get you untold free kicks around the box (not by diving necessarily, because he's tricky and can dribble). Top player, acclimatised, something to prove and the right age.

14-17 million, Joe Cole, come on down.

That's a cracking shout mate. He had a couple of excellent years at West Ham playing centrally before Chelsea came in for him. I'd love to see him at LFC although I very much it will happen.

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