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bigmick wrote:

Toffeehater wrote:

Greavesie wrote:

Toffeehater wrote:Don't let the door hit you on the way out , goodbye and good riddance

I never rated him but he was a good stop gap , now that we have someone better he should have sign an extension , he might have gotten games at left back and would have been there for cover . Still would have played about 30 games a season. Instead he decides to off to the club where he couldn't make it before after rafa have revitalized his career. I remember heimdall saying argie players have no loyalty well , some Spanish players as well , alonso (arguably) , arbeloa , reyes are some.

I don't think you can damn a whole nation mate because a couple of footballers fancy going home now they've got married. It's not about "loyalty", in the case of Arbeloa he arrived an unknown, has made his name and it's a good chance to get back home.

Toffeehater wrote:

bigmick wrote:

Toffeehater wrote:

Greavesie wrote:

Toffeehater wrote:Don't let the door hit you on the way out , goodbye and good riddance

I never rated him but he was a good stop gap , now that we have someone better he should have sign an extension , he might have gotten games at left back and would have been there for cover . Still would have played about 30 games a season. Instead he decides to off to the club where he couldn't make it before after rafa have revitalized his career. I remember heimdall saying argie players have no loyalty well , some Spanish players as well , alonso (arguably) , arbeloa , reyes are some.

I don't think you can damn a whole nation mate because a couple of footballers fancy going home now they've got married. It's not about "loyalty", in the case of Arbeloa he arrived an unknown, has made his name and it's a good chance to get back home.

I'm not damming the whole nation , so in other words we were just a stepping stone for arbeloa so that he could return back to club where he couldn't cut it earlier

bigmick wrote:

Toffeehater wrote:

bigmick wrote:

Toffeehater wrote:

Greavesie wrote:

Toffeehater wrote:Don't let the door hit you on the way out , goodbye and good riddance

I never rated him but he was a good stop gap , now that we have someone better he should have sign an extension , he might have gotten games at left back and would have been there for cover . Still would have played about 30 games a season. Instead he decides to off to the club where he couldn't make it before after rafa have revitalized his career. I remember heimdall saying argie players have no loyalty well , some Spanish players as well , alonso (arguably) , arbeloa , reyes are some.

I don't think you can damn a whole nation mate because a couple of footballers fancy going home now they've got married. It's not about "loyalty", in the case of Arbeloa he arrived an unknown, has made his name and it's a good chance to get back home.

I'm not damming the whole nation , so in other words we were just a stepping stone for arbeloa so that he could return back to club where he couldn't cut it earlier

"Damning the whole nation" was too strong Toff, but I just think that in his circumstance it's understandable. He's just got married, his Mrs has very likely said "feck living in England for a game of soldiers", he wants to have a couple of kids, and he wants them to grow up eating paella as opposed to scouse.

It's understandable (nothing against scouse mind, I've never had it).

You have never had scouse ?

You dont know what ye missing mick.

Dont they have scouse darn sarf ?
I wouldnt imagine there are many places you can get it in new zealand though 

Toffeehater wrote:

bigmick wrote:

Toffeehater wrote:

Greavesie wrote:

Toffeehater wrote:Don't let the door hit you on the way out , goodbye and good riddance

I never rated him but he was a good stop gap , now that we have someone better he should have sign an extension , he might have gotten games at left back and would have been there for cover . Still would have played about 30 games a season. Instead he decides to off to the club where he couldn't make it before after rafa have revitalized his career. I remember heimdall saying argie players have no loyalty well , some Spanish players as well , alonso (arguably) , arbeloa , reyes are some.

I don't think you can damn a whole nation mate because a couple of footballers fancy going home now they've got married. It's not about "loyalty", in the case of Arbeloa he arrived an unknown, has made his name and it's a good chance to get back home.

I'm not damming the whole nation , so in other words we were just a stepping stone for arbeloa so that he could return back to club where he couldn't cut it earlier

JoeTerp wrote:I don't think that we should pretend that English players don't f.uck off to other English clubs for other various reasons. Its our own fault that we let the contract run down so close, but either way we got good service out of the player as well as a small profit. Johnson comes in and threatens Arbeloa's place, he wants to leave. Torres and Gerrard form a dominating partnership, Crouchie wants to leave.

is there a greater risk of a foreigners family not settling, yes. BUT they also come cheaper in the first place, and where are you likely to find more of the highest quality footballers in the world: one tiny island OR the rest of world?  its something that, imo its just part of the international game. Didn't seem to be much of a problem for Hyypia.

Good point well made, Joe. 

Greavesie wrote:

Toffeehater wrote:

bigmick wrote:

Toffeehater wrote:

Greavesie wrote:

Toffeehater wrote:Don't let the door hit you on the way out , goodbye and good riddance

I never rated him but he was a good stop gap , now that we have someone better he should have sign an extension , he might have gotten games at left back and would have been there for cover . Still would have played about 30 games a season. Instead he decides to off to the club where he couldn't make it before after rafa have revitalized his career. I remember heimdall saying argie players have no loyalty well , some Spanish players as well , alonso (arguably) , arbeloa , reyes are some.

I don't think you can damn a whole nation mate because a couple of footballers fancy going home now they've got married. It's not about "loyalty", in the case of Arbeloa he arrived an unknown, has made his name and it's a good chance to get back home.

I'm not damming the whole nation , so in other words we were just a stepping stone for arbeloa so that he could return back to club where he couldn't cut it earlier

as well as his personal circumstnaces there's nothing wrong with walking back in the door and straight into the first team where they deemed him nnot good enough. He wants to prove it to himself that he can and will cut it there. He wasnt prolific but did a decent job in his time here and got on with his job professionally.