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Postby dawson99 » Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:20 pm

Answer the question!!!
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Postby Judge » Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:22 pm

i have answered it - I WOULD NOT LET - YOU, MJ, ELVIS PRESLEY, OR ANY OTNHER PERSON  NOT OF MY FAMILY, look after or babysit my kids
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Postby dawson99 » Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:35 pm

but if a mate had kids and let MJ babysit, you wouldnt say anything?
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Postby NANNY RED » Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:31 pm

He he , i felt like a bit of a celeb before  :laugh: i went over to the park at the back of ours with my grandaughter an my son, they had a fete on , he headed straight for the beer tent to meet his mates , so i phoned my daughter who was at the gym to meet me there aswell, Anyway she turned up with her mate , not boyfriend , Mate, theyd been the gym anyway this lad plays for West ham an loads recognised him , :censored: hell you should of seen some of the knobsheads  gathering round him, an even though my daughter is only his mate you had stupid bimbos pushing her out the way, so i kicked off an let rip an told a few of them bimbos to behave there :censored: selves ,

I got a big clap an you tell them girl ha ha , i have witnessed first hand today how girls throw themselves at footballers an its :censored: disgusting, The lad was clearly embarred by it all , i told him he owes me big time :nod
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Postby tubby » Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:26 pm

Your asking silly hypothetical questions now Dawson. Obviously after the court cases people would naturally be more wary.
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Postby dawson99 » Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:39 pm

bavlondon wrote:Your asking silly hypothetical questions now Dawson. Obviously after the court cases people would naturally be more wary.

Come on. he was an adult, who lived in neverland, enjoyed sleeping with kids he invites over... then pays there families lots of money to not say anything...

and you are seriously saying there is nothing dodgy?
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Postby tubby » Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:47 pm

I didn't say it was normal behaviour but his upbringing was anything but normal so as others have already said in the other thread that'snot an excuse but it probably contributed in some shape or form. Sure it is dogey but at the end of the day he was never found guilty. It's far too easy for people on here or anyone looking in from the outside to say ooh he bought the court or ohh he must be this or that. The truth is none of us know for sure but we can only go by the facts. And the facts state that he is innocent.

Do you not think during the trial the kids were asked in detail to describe any sexual encounters? If he really did do it then those kids would have remembered the details as horrible as they might have been but they couldnt say anything because it never really happened.

I have been ina  similar situation to this. A mate of mine was almost done for rape a few years ago but in the end it turned out the girl was making it up. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but the fact that his albums have gotten to number 1 again this weekend just shows that most believe the facts and so should everyone. There will always be people like you and GYBS and Lando who will always question the events and try to believe something else, heck where do you think conspiricy theories come from. Truth is those views are a minority - And as Rafa woudl say thats a fact! :D
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Postby dawson99 » Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:01 pm

fair point dude. we are too quick to judge i guess.

wonder how many people think Barrymore is innocent as well tho?
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Postby Bammo » Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:55 pm

But what would Barrymore be guilty of exactly? (this is a rant against society not people on here by the way :D)

The victim's father has admitted he only used Barrymore's name so that it would raise the profile of the case and they'd investigate who really killed his son (if it was indeed murder). Mud sticks though and most often people remember the accusations but not the truth when it is finally revealed.

Remember Pete Townshend being accused of paedophilia? The papers were quick to splash him across the front pages when they discovered he'd used a credit card to access a kiddy porn site. They were quick to rip into his excuse too. he said he believed he'd been abused and was investigating it for his memoirs. He claimed he'd informed his local police what he was doing before accessing the site.

The police denied it and it hit the papers. He was a paedophile. The papers were judge, jury and executioner. No one believed he was innocent. And then what happened? The police bothered to search their records and found he had indeed notified them and they were aware of his actions. Did that get splashed across the front pages? Of course not. It was hidden away because finding out someone is innocent is not newsworthy.

So my gripe is that papers should spend exactly the same amount of space on admitting their mistakes as they doing making accusations. So if the paper has 3 front pages and 25 pages about how someone is a rapist/paedophile/murderer/*insert crime here then they should have 3 front pages and 25 pages explaining how they got it wrong.
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Postby dawson99 » Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:00 pm

What would Barrymore be guilty of?
At his party a guy died in the swimming pool of severe lower back injuries!
No forensics were done and all that due to it being Barrymore.

these celebs get up to it all i tell ya
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Postby Bammo » Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:05 pm

It'snot like Barrymore stopped the police himself though. It wouldn't surprise me if the police would have taken that attitude if it was at a non-celeb party with coke and gay sex all over the place. They'd never get accurate witness statements and would probably never get to the truth so they class it as accidental.

I don't blame the father for wanting the truth but it's daft that our celebrity culture means Barrymore is the one people associate with it, not the real killer (be it person or accident).
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Postby Judge » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:50 am

dawson99 wrote:but if a mate had kids and let MJ babysit, you wouldnt say anything?

not my business

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anyway daws, stop looking to be controversial and causing arguments  :p  :D
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Postby tubby » Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:29 am

Ok everyone leave Michael Jackson alone now we are talking about Barrymore! :D
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Postby Judge » Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:06 am

that'll be dawson who started that :D
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Postby dawson99 » Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:32 pm

Jordan, can we all admit shes pointless and an awful awful woman?
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