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Effes wrote:Toshack got the record for the most goals scored in a Spanish League, for Real.

Then got sacked.

bigmick wrote:

Effes wrote:Toshack got the record for the most goals scored in a Spanish League, for Real.

Then got sacked.

Served him right though Eff, the goals were mostly tap ins with hardly any long shots.

What a shambles they scored 107 goals (38 against) - thanks to Wiki  .

My brother was living in Madrid at the time and used to go and watch them - Hugo Sanchez scored 38 ! (thanks to Wiki).
My bro told me,
he scored a pen by doing that back flip thing with his right foot behind his left - you know, like if you were Forrest Gump as a kid. Amazing.
Think he scored a scissor over-head kick too.

Anyway, Jock Stein deserves to be in there. As does Kenny. 

bigmick wrote:Feck me thre's been Welsh managers everywhere when you think about it. Brian Flynn as well, the diminutive midfield schemer had a bit of a bash at it as I recall.

taff wrote:No he wasnt.  I met him before the last Kop Derby and he joked about Rhyl Butlins and singing, I said Mr Evans to him in a sarcy Welsh voice and he laughed and said thank the lord somebody in his family moved to Liverpool 

Lookyou
There's lovely boyo..

Big Niall wrote:the list is fairly accurate. Kenny isn't in the same class as those managers. He took over the best team in Europe and left behind an aging team and a declining club. In fact, I think he was poor manager and started the decline.

Our greatest player? probably, legend ? yes, a top manager? no!

  stone the crows!

s@int wrote:To be fair to Kenny, he had to cope with losing the best strike partnership Liverpool have ever had (Himself and Rush) and he brought in a whole new forward line and still managed to win the League and get to the CUP FINAL. He then went to Blackburn and did an amazing job of taking a team that had won nothing for Donkeys years to the title. 

He also was begining to introduce the stars of tomorrow when he left Liverpool. Mcmanaman for example made his first appearance for Liverpool under Kenny.

A lot of the team was retiring or injured. He brought us Barnes, Beardsley and Aldridge for I think it was less than a million each - absolute bargains. And didn't he bring in Houghton and Staunton as well?

While he may have taken over a strong team, was it not also like the Arsenal double winning side of 1998 - coming to the end of it's heyday and needing replacing? It isn't easy to replace quality CBs like Lawro and Hansen, even the BBC woud be hard pressed to find a better pair!    I think the biggest criticism I could aim at Kenny was walking out when the club needed him most, at that stage of the transition that any other manager might make a mess of - and the next one did! Ever since we've had strengths and weaknesses but not the complete package. We've had solid CB pairings and excellent strike pairings, but at the same time............. And we've not had quality out wide since Barnes in his pomp, we've had plenty of good players but not quite enough to make true "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts" ie principally good players don't necessarily make a good team

Big Niall wrote:The 1988 team was great but it was just one season, when Arsenal knicked the title in 1989 it was a sign that George Grahams team was becoming top dog with a back five that would go for a decade.

While the 1990 team won the title, they were poor champions (remember the 4-3 loss to palace?) and in 1991 Arsenal lost just one game in the league on their way to title.Leeds and Manure were also now as good as the team that had been so mighty a few years earlier.

By the time he left, we were sliding and the team ageing.

You can hate Ferguson if you want but imagine how good we'd have been if he had got the job in 1986.