Is rafa, - Being fair?

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Postby LegBarnes » Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:57 pm

GYBS wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:well people who are older and seen us win elague title after league title should give us younger fans who haven't seen all that a little more respect cos we are very very loyal fans to the club.

I think we are better fans less spoiled.

you dont half spout complete and utter boll ocks . that post pretty much sums you up and you will never get any respect .

Its only :censored: cos you don't agree with it I have many friends and work colleagues who do agree so it's how you look at it.

I know you hate me thats cool but please stop replying to every thing I say or people will start to think that hate is turning into love tbh  :love: .
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Postby GYBS » Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:58 pm

your a clueless clown - end of discussion .
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Postby LegBarnes » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:00 pm

GYBS wrote:your a clueless clown - end of discussion .

Cool maybe I get parrys job then woohooo !  :D  :buttrock

Mind you I don't have clown hair So i gonna have to buy a wig I think.  :glare:
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Postby Madmax » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:05 pm

dawson99 wrote:my right ones awesome, left one is alright, but the right one... unbeatable. The right ones my favourite  :nod

:wwww

by the way legabarnes i respects you views so dont worry im on your side aswel.. Yours aswel my mate GYBS and when you argue im on both of your sides..  :D
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Postby LegBarnes » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:08 pm

Madmax wrote:
dawson99 wrote:my right ones awesome, left one is alright, but the right one... unbeatable. The right ones my favourite  :nod

:wwww

by the way legabarnes i respects you views so dont worry im on your side aswel.. Yours aswel my mate GYBS and when you argue im on both of your sides..  :D

how does that work ? tennis match comes to mind ?

Must be like a fed and rafa wimbledon final in ya head mate.  :laugh:
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Postby Madmax » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:10 pm

LegBarnes wrote:
Madmax wrote:
dawson99 wrote:my right ones awesome, left one is alright, but the right one... unbeatable. The right ones my favourite  :nod

:wwww

by the way legabarnes i respects you views so dont worry im on your side aswel.. Yours aswel my mate GYBS and when you argue im on both of your sides..  :D

how does that work ? tennis match comes to mind ?

Must be like a fed and rafa wimbledon final in ya head mate.  :laugh:

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Postby LegBarnes » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:14 pm

dawson99 wrote:my right ones awesome, left one is alright, but the right one... unbeatable. The right ones my favourite  :nod

The left one hangs more surely it is far superior to the right one or is it just you naturaly like to back the under dog ?
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Postby LegBarnes » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:22 pm

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Postby Sir Roger » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:27 pm

mistyred wrote:Look if Rafa had a more attacking mind set i think we
would have been well clear at the top by know, it's
silly things that have cost us.

I wouldnt call buying the wrong players with the wrong attitude playing them in the wrong positions in the wrong formations with the wrong tactics "silly things" mate
I would say theyre very important things and the major reason so many people are disillusioned with Rafa to say the least.

I see in tonights echo he is using the sunderland game as an incentive to the players for the Real madrid tie.

First of all why should he have to?
Secondly will it make a difference?
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Postby LegBarnes » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:29 pm

Yeah I think its worring he has to even get his team up for any game , things must be like nails on a blackboard in that dressing room if he has to use the press to get his team up for a prem game let alone a CL game ffs.  :angry:

Players should want to play for there manager you are cluching at straws if you need that help to get the players backing.  :no
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Postby GYBS » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:29 pm

Sir Roger wrote:
mistyred wrote:Look if Rafa had a more attacking mind set i think we
would have been well clear at the top by know, it's
silly things that have cost us.

I wouldnt call buying the wrong players with the wrong attitude playing them in the wrong positions in the wrong formations with the wrong tactics "silly things" mate
I would say theyre very important things and the major reason so many people are disillusioned with Rafa to say the least.

I see in tonights echo he is using the sunderland game as an incentive to the players for the Real madrid tie.

First of all why should he have to?
Secondly will it make a difference?

it makes you wonder how the hell rafa has managed what he has while with us in the 4 years - which is more succesful than evans souness and gh in the league and the cl.
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Postby Sir Roger » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:45 pm

GYBS wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:
mistyred wrote:Look if Rafa had a more attacking mind set i think we
would have been well clear at the top by know, it's
silly things that have cost us.

I wouldnt call buying the wrong players with the wrong attitude playing them in the wrong positions in the wrong formations with the wrong tactics "silly things" mate
I would say theyre very important things and the major reason so many people are disillusioned with Rafa to say the least.

I see in tonights echo he is using the sunderland game as an incentive to the players for the Real madrid tie.

First of all why should he have to?
Secondly will it make a difference?

it makes you wonder how the hell rafa has managed what he has while with us in the 4 years - which is more succesful than evans souness and gh in the league and the cl.

I think I have said this before
Blind loyalty is only  a good thing for a short time
I happen to believe that Souness was a shi.t manager for us and said so at the time. A lot of my mates argued like you do and called me all the names under the sun because I dared to criticise him publicly. I didnt care. I knew I was right.
And guess what? They agreed with me when he fuc.ked off.

Houllier was the same. Backed himself into a corner because of his man management. I was there at Cardiff singing "Hou let the dogs out" with everyone else. But he had to go. I criticised him and had similar arguments with mates but guess what? They agreed with me when he fuc.ked off too.

I am not sure if I want Rafa to go. But I am sure he needs to change if he is going to stay.
Can he?
Will he?
I dont know, but I am right to criticise him and will continue until and unless he wins the title.
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Postby Madmax » Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:04 pm

Sir Roger wrote:it makes you wonder how the hell rafa has managed what he has while with us in the 4 years - which is more succesful than evans souness and gh in the league and the cl.

I think I have said this before
Blind loyalty is only  a good thing for a short time
I happen to believe that Souness was a shi.t manager for us and said so at the time. A lot of my mates argued like you do and called me all the names under the sun because I dared to criticise him publicly. I didnt care. I knew I was right.
And guess what? They agreed with me when he fuc.ked off.

Houllier was the same. Backed himself into a corner because of his man management. I was there at Cardiff singing "Hou let the dogs out" with everyone else. But he had to go. I criticised him and had similar arguments with mates but guess what? They agreed with me when he fuc.ked off too.

I am not sure if I want Rafa to go. But I am sure he needs to change if he is going to stay.
Can he?
Will he?
I dont know, but I am right to criticise him and will continue until and unless he wins the title.[/quote]
If rafa does get things they way he wants with the transfers and other issues still makes one think how long then will it take to win the title?

Will it be another 5 year plan......
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Postby Sir Roger » Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:36 am

Madmax wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:it makes you wonder how the hell rafa has managed what he has while with us in the 4 years - which is more succesful than evans souness and gh in the league and the cl.

I think I have said this before
Blind loyalty is only  a good thing for a short time
I happen to believe that Souness was a shi.t manager for us and said so at the time. A lot of my mates argued like you do and called me all the names under the sun because I dared to criticise him publicly. I didnt care. I knew I was right.
And guess what? They agreed with me when he fuc.ked off.

Houllier was the same. Backed himself into a corner because of his man management. I was there at Cardiff singing "Hou let the dogs out" with everyone else. But he had to go. I criticised him and had similar arguments with mates but guess what? They agreed with me when he fuc.ked off too.

I am not sure if I want Rafa to go. But I am sure he needs to change if he is going to stay.
Can he?
Will he?
I dont know, but I am right to criticise him and will continue until and unless he wins the title.

If rafa does get things they way he wants with the transfers and other issues still makes one think how long then will it take to win the title?

Will it be another 5 year plan......[/quote]
This is my point
Do people seriously believe that Parry going and Rafa signing a new contract will suddenly make the squad better or stop him tinkering?
Its as if for some he has had his hands tied and once he unties them everything will change and all problems will vanish
Abracadabra!
We win the league...
???
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:53 pm

dawson99 wrote:Well PeeWee, your quote

"Hold that door Parry, I think someone is following you out"

Is that meant for G&H or Rafa? Coz if it's Rafa we know where you stand - liking him wise

since when does wanting him to leave mean I hate him, I have never said I hate him, I have said he is not up to the job, that does not mean I hate him and to be honest mate its very small of you to insinuate that. If I hated him I would have no worry about saying it
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