EVERTON VS LIVERPOOL - F.a cup replay

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Postby GYBS » Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:39 am

No news yet mick just as ciggy said going for scan today . from what it seems gerrard took himself off when he felt something so hopefully it wont be that bad and gerrards thinking could be good for us and hopefully will prob miss game against pompey then will be back after that
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Postby tubby » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:17 pm

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bigmick wrote:Is there any news at all on Gerrards injury?

Hes gone to london to have 3 scans probably cappello wants him to have one?

That was just a joke from Rafa. Surley he will have his scan somewhere in Liverpool right?
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:35 pm

...Do you think we could appeal against the Lucas red card last nite? Try and get his ban extended to three matches instead of one?




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Postby Emerald Red » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:35 pm

devaney wrote:Just fking awful! The team looked down and I blame it all on Robbie Keane! Seriously though just how many games this season have Liverpool looked really convincing. Recent performance against Chelsea was really not that great - Chelsea were shight!

Torres hobbling, Gerrard knackered, Lucas not fit to be at the club, Keane sold, Mascha not playing well, Skrtel not back to his best but getting there, Benayoon very frustrating, Babel lacking a footballing brain and Rafa showing serious signs of a man under pressure! If we win anything this season it will be a miracle. Gawd it's so fking depressing. Players earning more in a week than some people earn in five years and showing about as much interest as a dead rat! Ffs I am fed up - where's my fkn gun !! Sorry lads I love the team but I just had to get that off my chest!! :angry:

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Postby Reg » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:38 pm

Wise word Devaney, I wont disagree.

As someone commented a few days back Rafa has built a large squad of average players. Quantity seems better than quality.
Lucas is a joke and has to go, as can all the other lightweights. Despite comments saying teh youngsters are good, who was the last player to come through the academy and hold down a place? Carra? Our academy produces future Sunderland players.

Maureen went to Chelsea, bought quality and won the league. We have spend a bucketload of cash on lightweights paying 5-7 million less per player than we should have done to bring in teh right players (obvious exceptions).

We´re stuck - one striker, one wonderman and the fans can sense if either gets even medium term injured the league and CL challenges are over for the season, There is no Plan B.

Rafa has fecked up his transfer policy and needs to offload and rebuild with class at 20-25 million a head. All this messing around buying 'hopefuls' has produced no one of superior class.

(Note for the weirdos: Mash, Alonso, Reina were great buys, I´m obviously talking about Babel, Kuyt, Lucas, Dossena, Degan, Yossi, Pennant, Bellamy, Voronin, Ngog and many others i cant even remember of this world)
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Postby Ace Ventura » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:46 pm

Cant say i disagree Reg, i was debating the very same thing yesterady with GYBS, and i think most fans think the same.
Stop wasting money with punts on players you hope will come off and buy just one top player each window.
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:46 pm

DOWNBEAT Rafael Benitez was left to bemoan an FA Cup exit to Everton last night – and the possibility of losing Steven Gerrard for a spell through injury.

The captain departed the fourth round replay defeat at Goodison Park with a hamstring strain after just 16 minutes and the full extent if the damage will be assessed after a scan today.

It prompted Benitez to hit back at the critics who questioned his decision to withdraw Gerrard towards the end of last week’s 1-1 draw at Wigan.

“When I took him off last week, people were saying he should be playing all the time, every minute,” said the Liverpool manager.

“Well now you see the consequences of that.


“We have to check after a scan and I don’t know, we have to wait.

“He was injured. He asked for the substitution.

“Last week he was tired but you can see now the consequences.”

The injury makes Gerrard a doubt for Saturday’s Barclays Premier League trip to Portsmouth and England’s friendly international in Spain.

And in a barbed reference to the insistence of England coach Fabio Capello that Gerrard travel to London to be assessed when he last pulled out of an international with an injury, Benitez added: “Maybe he has to go to do three scans at the same time just in case there are any doubts.”

But Benitez’s mood was set by the defeat to Everton, which ended his side’s interest in the FA Cup for another year.

In the build-up to the game, opposite number David Moyes had called for Alan Wiley to buck the trend of what he saw as favouritism towards Liverpool when it came to big decisions.

Benitez was clearly unhappy with the official’s decision to send off Lucas 14 minutes from the end of normal time for two fouls that he felt merited yellow cards, but chose to hold back from direct criticism.

“We are really disappointed,” he added.

“We played for a long time with 10 players so to concede at the end with a deflection was disappointing.

“I’ve told the referee but I prefer not to say anything. So ask the referee – it doesn’t matter, it will not change things.

“It’s very disappointing to be out of the Cup but we have to concentrate on the league and the Champions League which are massive competitions and we are in a very good position.

“I think we have the squad to cope.

“When you lose in this way you have to be disappointed but it won’t affect the confidence of the team.”

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Surely Rafa is the manager, and if he thinks Gerrard is tired....... why play him ? You can hardly blame it on the people that moan when he doesn't play, because as far as I am aware they don't pick the team. Unless it was that b@stard Parry again   :D
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Postby GYBS » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:01 pm

Listening to the inbreed BS w@nkers on the radio you would of thought they won the bloody Cup last night as well as the Prem CL and World . One Guy said "there is two teams in Merseyside - Everton and Everton Reserves " Look at the table you bunch of fecking tw@ts and have a look at our trophy cabinet which is the size of your sh1thole of a ground as opposed to having a drawer of trophies.
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Postby devaney » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:04 pm

Reg wrote:Wise word Devaney, I wont disagree.

As someone commented a few days back Rafa has built a large squad of average players. Quantity seems better than quality.
Lucas is a joke and has to go, as can all the other lightweights. Despite comments saying teh youngsters are good, who was the last player to come through the academy and hold down a place? Carra? Our academy produces future Sunderland players.

Maureen went to Chelsea, bought quality and won the league. We have spend a bucketload of cash on lightweights paying 5-7 million less per player than we should have done to bring in teh right players (obvious exceptions).

We´re stuck - one striker, one wonderman and the fans can sense if either gets even medium term injured the league and CL challenges are over for the season, There is no Plan B.

Rafa has fecked up his transfer policy and needs to offload and rebuild with class at 20-25 million a head. All this messing around buying 'hopefuls' has produced no one of superior class.

(Note for the weirdos: Mash, Alonso, Reina were great buys, I´m obviously talking about Babel, Kuyt, Lucas, Dossena, Degan, Yossi, Pennant, Bellamy, Voronin, Ngog and many others i cant even remember of this world)

Reg - just how good a buy was Mascha at £20m - certainly not the player he was last season. Compare that price tag with what Everton paid for Jags - was it £3.5m - can't remember but i know it wasn't much! £20m for Keane proves categorically that you don't necessarily get what you want simply by spending money! We clearly lack on the field imagination and this isn't helped by a transfer record in recent years that his been awful apart from a few big money purchases.

Help - can anybody name me a low price Rafa purchase that has been an outstanding success - by low price I mean less than £4m?
Net Spend Over The Last 5 Years 20/21 to 24/25  (10 years
are in brackets 15/16 to 24/25 )
LFC €300m (€420m)
Everton +€33m (€211m)
Arsenal €557m (€853m)
Spurs €571m (€684m)
Chelsea €945m (€1051m)
Man City €370m (€1038m)
Man United €687m (€1240m)
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Postby tubby » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:04 pm

I thought Moyes comments were quite funny. "Where do they go from here". Well 2nd in the league and a last 16 tie with Real Madrid for starters!
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Postby Reg » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:11 pm

Bav, change your avatar fgs.......
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Postby Ciggy » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:12 pm

bavlondon wrote:I thought Moyes comments were quite funny.

Yes they where he said Torres said to him that he had never played against better defenders in his life, Lescott and Jagielka  :Oo:  And they celebrated with class and dignity, they ordered Champagne for the dressing room :D
He said his fans think they have won the cup :D
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Postby jedwards » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:31 pm

devaney wrote:
Reg wrote:Wise word Devaney, I wont disagree.

As someone commented a few days back Rafa has built a large squad of average players. Quantity seems better than quality.
Lucas is a joke and has to go, as can all the other lightweights. Despite comments saying teh youngsters are good, who was the last player to come through the academy and hold down a place? Carra? Our academy produces future Sunderland players.

Maureen went to Chelsea, bought quality and won the league. We have spend a bucketload of cash on lightweights paying 5-7 million less per player than we should have done to bring in teh right players (obvious exceptions).

We´re stuck - one striker, one wonderman and the fans can sense if either gets even medium term injured the league and CL challenges are over for the season, There is no Plan B.

Rafa has fecked up his transfer policy and needs to offload and rebuild with class at 20-25 million a head. All this messing around buying 'hopefuls' has produced no one of superior class.

(Note for the weirdos: Mash, Alonso, Reina were great buys, I´m obviously talking about Babel, Kuyt, Lucas, Dossena, Degan, Yossi, Pennant, Bellamy, Voronin, Ngog and many others i cant even remember of this world)

Reg - just how good a buy was Mascha at £20m - certainly not the player he was last season. Compare that price tag with what Everton paid for Jags - was it £3.5m - can't remember but i know it wasn't much! £20m for Keane proves categorically that you don't necessarily get what you want simply by spending money! We clearly lack on the field imagination and this isn't helped by a transfer record in recent years that his been awful apart from a few big money purchases.

Help - can anybody name me a low price Rafa purchase that has been an outstanding success - by low price I mean less than £4m?

Mascherano is still a good player, but he hardly had any rest since last season, in Summer he was in China for the Olympic, and he missed the preseason training, he just had too much football, and less rest. He is still better than Lucas, Kuyt, and he covers most ground than any Liverpool players. Yes I admit that he is less influential than he was last season, But he is still a great player.
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Postby Ciggy » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:33 pm

Mystery surrounds much more than just ITV's coverage of the FA Cup fourth round replay between Everton and Liverpool. :D

Before the broadcaster's :censored:-up, referee Alan Wiley was seen kicking a pair of rolled up socks off the field during the Toffees' 1-0 extra-time win over their bitter rivals. But what were the socks all about?

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Kicking off: Referee Alan Wiley kicks a pair of rolled up red socks off the pitch as Everton's Leighton Baines prepares to take a throw in

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Socking it to 'em: Cahill sprints away after being struck by a rolled up pair of socks

'Sock robbers, sock robbers, sock robbers,”' the Liverpool fans sang at Goodison, bombarding the Bullens Road touchline with rolled-up balls of footwear.
This was to taunt Evertonians about their proposed move to a stadium in Kirkby, which is outside Liverpool city limits.

Scouse urban myth has it that, in the dark days of the 1960s and 1970s, not even odd socks were safe on a Kirkby washing line from local thieves.

The legend has been taken up with a vengeance by the red side of the city.

It is claimed that burglars from the Kirkby area would enter rear gardens, steal socks off washing lines and wear them over their hands while robbing the contents of the victims' home. An ingenious way of preventing finger prints being left at a crime scene.

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Postby Effes » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:02 pm

s@int wrote:DOWNBEAT Rafael Benitez was left to bemoan an FA Cup exit to Everton last night – and the possibility of losing Steven Gerrard for a spell through injury.


“When I took him off last week, people were saying he should be playing all the time, every minute,” said the Liverpool manager.

“Well now you see the consequences of that.

I find that a bit peurile to be honest.
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