EVERTON VS LIVERPOOL - F.a cup replay

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Postby Alex G. » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:02 pm

I don´t understand why didn´t play Hyypia and Agger.
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Postby heimdall » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:54 pm

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s@int wrote:DOWNBEAT Rafael Benitez was left to bemoan an FA Cup exit to Everton last night – and the possibility of losing Steven Gerrard for a spell through injury.


“When I took him off last week, people were saying he should be playing all the time, every minute,” said the Liverpool manager.

“Well now you see the consequences of that.

I find that a bit peurile to be honest.

He is loosing it big time or is going senile very early, either way it's not good. Most ridiculous, childish comments ever, goes to show he reads our posts though, maybe he's actually GYBS on this forum  :D   :lookaround
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Postby Alex G. » Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:13 pm

heimdall wrote:
Effes wrote:
s@int wrote:DOWNBEAT Rafael Benitez was left to bemoan an FA Cup exit to Everton last night – and the possibility of losing Steven Gerrard for a spell through injury.


“When I took him off last week, people were saying he should be playing all the time, every minute,” said the Liverpool manager.

“Well now you see the consequences of that.

I find that a bit peurile to be honest.

He is loosing it big time or is going senile very early, either way it's not good. Most ridiculous, childish comments ever, goes to show he reads our posts though, maybe he's actually GYBS on this forum  :D   :lookaround

He is right. Gerrard needs to rotate more.
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Postby mkingdom » Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:19 pm

The worst game of football I've ever seen.

Imagine watching that $*i*e every week...I pity everton fans!!

We looked dead on our feet, with only Yossi looking anywhere close to good in an attacking position.

Not too ar$ed about the FA Cup, but it may have big implications with the injuries and suspensions over the next few games.

Time to dig in, and show if we are true title contenders now.
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Postby Judge » Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:45 pm

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devaney wrote:Just fking awful! The team looked down and I blame it all on Robbie Keane! Seriously though just how many games this season have Liverpool looked really convincing. Recent performance against Chelsea was really not that great - Chelsea were shight!

Torres hobbling, Gerrard knackered, Lucas not fit to be at the club, Keane sold, Mascha not playing well, Skrtel not back to his best but getting there, Benayoon very frustrating, Babel lacking a footballing brain and Rafa showing serious signs of a man under pressure! If we win anything this season it will be a miracle. Gawd it's so fking depressing. Players earning more in a week than some people earn in five years and showing about as much interest as a dead rat! Ffs I am fed up - where's my fkn gun !! Sorry lads I love the team but I just had to get that off my chest!! :angry:

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Good post. Fair play.

best post in a while from the ranter  :D

btw, did you find that gun?  :D
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Postby parchpea » Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:56 pm

Benitez has nothing left to give Liverpool and I am fearful that the rot cannot be reversed  You just get the gut feeling that he knows changes are coming in the summer and that he probably wont be there. Though he wont admit it I think that he has had enough of all the problems behind the scenes and that his plans have all but failed and his attempts to land the title are on the verge of failure again. I personally dont think he wants to stay on and this is causing us a problem now. We where poor at Everton, really poor, and it was a bitter blow to lose to a city rival at that stage of the contest. The team looked out on its feet, spent, and without inspiration, and its a long haul back from here with this group of players. Games left and chances yet I know but its hard to see how this squad can deliver now.
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Postby Madmax » Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:39 pm

GYBS wrote:Listening to the inbreed BS w@nkers on the radio you would of thought they won the bloody Cup last night as well as the Prem CL and World . One Guy said "there is two teams in Merseyside - Everton and Everton Reserves " Look at the table you bunch of fecking tw@ts and have a look at our trophy cabinet which is the size of your sh1thole of a ground as opposed to having a drawer of trophies.

:laugh:  i know i heard the dirty bitter slu.ts on the radio aswel..
Will see who has the last laugh come may....
.... DAMN....Now ive just jinxed us!!    :oops:
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Postby Sir Roger » Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:44 pm

Everton are a poor team with very little or nothing to shout about. What makes matters worse is that we couldnt beat them in three games. That says more about us than them. At least you know what youre getting with them. Can the same now be said about us?
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Postby SupitsJonF » Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:47 pm

Sir Roger wrote:Everton are a poor team with very little or nothing to shout about. What makes matters worse is that we couldnt beat them in three games. That says more about us than them. At least you know what youre getting with them. Can the same now be said about us?

United hardly beat Everton.  I dont know if its just because you hate them but Everton aren't a push over side.
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Postby Sir Roger » Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:50 pm

SupitsJonF wrote:
Sir Roger wrote:Everton are a poor team with very little or nothing to shout about. What makes matters worse is that we couldnt beat them in three games. That says more about us than them. At least you know what youre getting with them. Can the same now be said about us?

United hardly beat Everton.  I dont know if its just because you hate them but Everton aren't a push over side.

I dont hate them and Im not saying their a pushover side. What I am saying is that if we cant beat them in three games, knowing what kind of tactics theyre going to play, weve got serious problems.

Maybe we should take a leaf out of their book?
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Postby Emerald Red » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:40 pm

Sir Roger wrote:Everton are a poor team with very little or nothing to shout about. What makes matters worse is that we couldnt beat them in three games. That says more about us than them. At least you know what youre getting with them. Can the same now be said about us?

Played them four times this season, and gave them a footballing lesson in two of the league games, and deserved to beat them the first time round in the Cup. Everton are f*cking gash, and our players have only themselves to blame for not tanking them. Well, at least like we did in the league match at their pit.
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Postby bigmick » Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:16 pm

In the last three contests, they played without a striker. Quite a strange, almost 4-6-0 set up. During 5 hours of football, we managed to score two goals against them (while they scored three against us). Both of our goals were scored by Steven Gerrard, one a shot from from 35 yards, and the other a well worked 1-2 with Torres followed by a calmitous piece of goalkeeping.

Thier set up is/was a bit unusual, but given our supposed tactical acumen I would like to have seen us be a bit more imaginitive in breaking it down. A couple of things spring to mind. Firstly, we could have played Gerrard down the right to exploit the fact that Leighton Baines, in common with every other left back in the league, wouldn't be able to handle him. We could have put our big tall bloke (Peter Crouch perhaps) up top and bombarded them if they chose to sit in. We could have played with a free striker, detailed to pop up wherever he chose (Keane perhaps) and sacrificed one of our centre halves. We could have easily played three at the back given they had practically nobody to mark, we could have encouraged our full backs to get ahead of the ball, even attack the box when the ball is on the other flank. We could have done many things but we chose not to.

We chose to just kind of carry on. We played them three times and we didn't manage to win one. It's all the players fault, innit.
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Postby Cool Hand Luke » Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:24 pm

How many good saves did Tim Howard make over the three games? Not many that I can remember.

Even though in the past Rafa has proven to be a very good coach from a tactical point of view, he failed in these 3 games and was outdone by Moyes.
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Postby GYBS » Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:27 pm

At the end of the day its a derby - over the years form books and everything goes out of the window - we have managed to loose to them many times in the past when we were cruising to wins and we have also thumped them many times as well .
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Postby bigmick » Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:30 pm

Indeed form does go out of the window in a one off game. These weren't one off games though. We played them three times, and didn't win once. What's more, if we were playing them again at the weekend, would you be massively confident that we would manage to beat them on the fourth occasion? Even at Anfield I certainly wouldn't be, particularly if Gerrard doesn't play.
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