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by **oakton** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:48 pm

Rafa is gonna say Gerrard looked tired and shits like that

by **Toffeehater** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:48 pm

i'm off to bed its 6 am here , i'll rnat more when i'm up

by **SupitsJonF** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:48 pm

Toffeehater wrote:
SupitsJonF wrote:
bunglemark2 wrote:Didn't see any of it...Why the f**k did he take off Torres and Gerrard - injuries ?

Torres was having an awful match, half the people on here said they wouldn't mind seeing him off. (But now complaining, hypocrites)

Gerrard sub was a bad one, but it wasnt like he was playing well.

2 main goal threats , whether they are or not they have a better chance at getting you a goal . Torres was against chelsea last season in the cl yet he scored , arsenal as well , see my point?

I still think Torres should of come off, but for Keane.

Babel off for Riera. And Alonso on for Lucas.

Those would be my 3 subs.

by **Dundalk** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:49 pm

s@int wrote:I thought we bossed the game , just didn't create many chances.

How many times have we done that this season?

by **Raffmaker** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:49 pm

You will not get away with drawing games consistenyl and not get punished.

If Chelsea and Utd kick on now till mya 4th is the best we can hope for.

I have seen lfc enough times to see there is no fight, and not enough quality in depth. cant score

its the same rehersal game after game.

by **account deleted by request** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:49 pm

*_Ruthless_* wrote:Im not one for turning on our own players but enough is enough, Benayoun, Lucas and Dossena are not good enough to be playing for our club . . .

Rafa sticks by these players and its cost us another fecking game . . . so yes he is to blame!

Benny was arguably as good as any of our players tonight, and Dossena didn't play!

I agree Benny's not good enough btw , but he played well tonight.

by **Emerald Red** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:49 pm

bunglemark2 wrote:Didn't see any of it...Why the f**k did he take off Torres and Gerrard - injuries ?

To be fair to both, neither were playing very well at all, though Gerrard still looked a threat at times. Though it makes no sense whatsoever to take your two best players off when even if they are quiet, they can still produce a match winner. Torres was unlucky to have hit the post, but leaving Lucas on and taking Gerrard off is just f*cking madness in the extreme. Lucas is NOT LFC standard, end of. Why he gets a first place berth is mental. We were controlling that game up until those subs, which totally f*cked it for us. Maybe not the first sub (which was very strange, but still made sense with two more subs to be used) but the other two wrecked our shape. Keane should have come straight on for Babel IMO, with Reira on the left and Kuyt wide right. That at least would have made better sense, but taking Gerrard off and Torres? Rafa tried to be clever, and he f*cked it.

by **Zidane** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:50 pm

Okay lets get 1 thing straight, he didn't pick a bad lineup. His subs were horrendous, he makes us look like bottlers and like we have no belief in ourselves. He made us drop into a shell once again by taking our best player off for DIRK KUYT the defensive genius. Then when they tie instead of taking Babel the waster off he takes Stevie off for Keane? Yes, I know, Stevie played like sh!t prior to this and Babel had a good first half but if you think it was right to take Stevie off then you're stupid, sorry.

by **puroresu** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:50 pm

Alonso rested I guess cos Rafa was thinking about the chelsea game. Why?

by **Toffeehater** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:50 pm

No point in discussing subs now , that one :censored:

who could change the game , :censored:

us up . You know what i hope Hicks sacks him tomorrow , bring in a short term manager like avram grant at least our footie will be decent and best 11 will be out there

by **dward** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:50 pm

Why did he take Gerrard off? It beggars belief. Even if he's playing badly, he's still much more likely to score than most other players.

Unbelievable.

by **Richj** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:50 pm

The one person who could of got a last minute goal for us and he takes him off !!!!! AAAGGHHHHH

by **lakes10** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:51 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
bunglemark2 wrote:Didn't see any of it...Why the f**k did he take off Torres and Gerrard - injuries ?

To be fair to both, neither were playing very well at all, though Gerrard still looked a threat at times. Though it makes no sense whatsoever to take your two best players off when even if they are quiet, they can still produce a match winner. Torres was unlucky to have hit the post, but leaving Lucas on and taking Gerrard off is just f*cking madness in the extreme. Lucas is NOT LFC standard, end of. Why he gets a first place berth is mental. We were controlling that game up until those subs, which totally f*cked it for us. Maybe not the first sub (which was very strange, but still made sense with two more subs to be used) but the other two wrecked our shape. Keane should have come straight on for Babel IMO, with Reira on the left and Kuyt wide right. That at least would have made better sense, but taking Gerrard off and Torres? Rafa tried to be clever, and he f*cked it.

if you need a goal in the last min who would you put your money on...Gerrard ........no not Rafa he takes him off.

by **Toffeehater** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:51 pm

Anything but a win will do . Bremenstein start the next thread

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:52 pm

bavlondon wrote:Everyone seems to be finally waking up to smell the Rafa. Me personally, I thought we lost the league when we drew at home to Fulham. I guess it had to get to this for it to sink in for the others.

Should Rafa be given a new contract? Can he really take us further than this? I dont think so.

I think that the 2 owners or the new owners will NOT offer any new contract to Rafa ....

All the matches that we lost points are all because of Rafa's 4-5-1 .... and today "oops he did it again" ...

He should played 4-4-2 and kill the game in the 1st half and sub the key players during the 2nd half ...

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