Jermaine pennant - off to valencia on a bosman

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Postby Leonmc0708 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:34 am

aCe' wrote:He’s a good player and at the prices being quoted there’s no wonder the big clubs are after his signature ... off the field you can call him all the names you want but imo he’s proven yet and again when he’s started for us that hes a good player and that hes up to playing at the top level...

good luck wherever you end up...

Cant beleive I took your points in the Player Rating thread seriously.

What a load of baloney.

Pennant is not a good player he is an average one with a bad attitude and poor work ethic.
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Postby aCe' » Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:37 am

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GYBS wrote:well madrid wanted him as a 4th choice and milan as a freebie , plus wigan stoke wanted him but even at 4 mil said that was too much for him . Think that says pretty much about him .

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Postby aCe' » Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:42 am

Leonmc0708 wrote:
aCe' wrote:He’s a good player and at the prices being quoted there’s no wonder the big clubs are after his signature ... off the field you can call him all the names you want but imo he’s proven yet and again when he’s started for us that hes a good player and that hes up to playing at the top level...

good luck wherever you end up...

Cant beleive I took your points in the Player Rating thread seriously.

What a load of baloney.

Pennant is not a good player he is an average one with a bad attitude and poor work ethic.

if hes an average player then so are kuyt, benayoun, elzhar, lucas..etc.. half the real madrid current squad, milan squad..etc

off the pitch hes a fckin idiot ill give you that much, but can you honestly sit there and tell me that players like Lennon, Milner, Valencia, etc who would cost more than double what pennant is going for are that much better than he is  ?!
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Postby aCe' » Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:46 am

whos a fckin premium member now ?!

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eh just noticed gybs is a premium member aswell :(

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Postby HacksawJimDuggin » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:49 am

I can't see Pennant signing another contract with us with there being little or no chance of him playing first team football.

As it appears there has been a rift between Rafa and Pennant he surely won't be looking to do the gaffer any favours (which is what signing a new contract will do as we'll have to get £££ for him when he's sold).
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Postby Bad Bob » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:57 pm

Toffeehater wrote:LIVERPOOL have offered Jermaine Pennant a new 12-month deal — to protect themselves if he turns into a loan star.

Reds boss Rafa Benitez is prepared to let Pennant — out of contract at the end of the season — leave Anfield but was hoping to bring in up to £4million for him.

With no one approaching that figure, Benitez could now loan him out.

And if he can get Pennant to agree to a new deal, the Reds would get a fee for him if the winger was a hit and joined another club on a permanent basis.

AC Milan have already offered Pennant a pre-contract agreement to join them on a free in the summer though.

And Pennant may sit tight in the hope of negotiating a hefty signing-on fee with a new club.

Liverpool keeper Pepe Reina wants a treble of Premier League, Champions League and FA Cup.

He said: “Our ambition this season is to challenge for every competition we enter. At Liverpool it’s the only way you can be.”

Not a chance in hell he'll sign anything with us, IMO--it's not in his economic interest to do so and, as we've already seen with his rejection of Madrid, Pennant is primarily concerned with his economic interest.  He'll stick it out with us until the summer and walk for free, probably to go warm the bench at the San Siro for a hefty weekly sum.  I'm sure Milan has an amazing club scene and all. :D
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:02 pm

aCe' wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:
aCe' wrote:He’s a good player and at the prices being quoted there’s no wonder the big clubs are after his signature ... off the field you can call him all the names you want but imo he’s proven yet and again when he’s started for us that hes a good player and that hes up to playing at the top level...

good luck wherever you end up...

Cant beleive I took your points in the Player Rating thread seriously.

What a load of baloney.

Pennant is not a good player he is an average one with a bad attitude and poor work ethic.

if hes an average player then so are kuyt, benayoun, elzhar, lucas..etc.. half the real madrid current squad, milan squad..etc

off the pitch hes a fckin idiot ill give you that much, but can you honestly sit there and tell me that players like Lennon, Milner, Valencia, etc who would cost more than double what pennant is going for are that much better than he is  ?!

ITs a mater of opinion of course but are you trying to say that Pennant is in the same class as:

Kuyt
Benayoun
Lucas
"half the real madrid squad"
"milan squad"

Seriously ?

And are you saying that you dont think that Milner and Valencia would be an improvement on Pennant ?

For the record, PEnnant and Lennon are poor for very different reasons and I would rather have neither.
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Postby stmichael » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:22 pm

I couldn't give a monkeys if he moves on, but it would be nice to recoup some of what we paid for him.
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Postby Owzat » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:44 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
Toffeehater wrote:LIVERPOOL have offered Jermaine Pennant a new 12-month deal — to protect themselves if he turns into a loan star.

Reds boss Rafa Benitez is prepared to let Pennant — out of contract at the end of the season — leave Anfield but was hoping to bring in up to £4million for him.

With no one approaching that figure, Benitez could now loan him out.

And if he can get Pennant to agree to a new deal, the Reds would get a fee for him if the winger was a hit and joined another club on a permanent basis.

AC Milan have already offered Pennant a pre-contract agreement to join them on a free in the summer though.

And Pennant may sit tight in the hope of negotiating a hefty signing-on fee with a new club.

Liverpool keeper Pepe Reina wants a treble of Premier League, Champions League and FA Cup.

He said: “Our ambition this season is to challenge for every competition we enter. At Liverpool it’s the only way you can be.”


Not a chance in hell he'll sign anything with us, IMO--it's not in his economic interest to do so and, as we've already seen with his rejection of Madrid, Pennant is primarily concerned with his economic interest.  He'll stick it out with us until the summer and walk for free, probably to go warm the bench at the San Siro for a hefty weekly sum.  I'm sure Milan has an amazing club scene and all. :D

I gather from the fact someone I work with is reading that in the s*n that that rag is the source. I think he might sign, depends on how much money he might make out of it.

It's illogical for many reasons even if true :-

a) he holds all the cards, he doesn't have to accept a contract offer and even if he does then he can simply spend another 12 months picking up his wonga and doing nothing to "earn" it. I doubt he will sign a clause to have to join anyone who bids £Xm since you can't get the prospective club to agree to terms in the contract re wages

b) if he wanted say £50k a week, it would only take 10 weeks to end up giving him half a million in wages. Not to mention the signing on fee he'd want. We might get what £5m for him, even with a year on his contract we'd not get markedly more than we might with six months on his contract - IF he agreed to join any clubs who offered money or a loan deal for him

c) what are the odds of him proving a hit enough to raise a sizeable fee? He might equally be a flop, if a club that took him on loan could afford all his wages and he agreed to go on loan.


Let him go, he's not worth it. For what might prove a maybe £5m fee we would have to spend likely a million minimum to engineer it. We could profit by a few million, we could end up looking stupid and paying him £2.5m in wages (£50k a year for 50 weeks) He can go to the best bid, I really can't see him doing us any favours given how many games he's played this season.
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Postby Rorschach26 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:48 pm

If i were Rafa id wait 4 him 2 come into training & as soon as he enters the gates tell him 2 :censored: off hes not needed but he better be back next training session r hell be docked pay then id get a security guard 2 meet him at the entrance every time after that & say "Rafa said r a twa.t now :censored: off"

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Postby Bad Bob » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:52 pm

Rorschach26 wrote:If i were Rafa id wait 4 him 2 come into training & as soon as he enters the gates tell him 2 :censored: off hes not needed but he better be back next training session r hell be docked pay then id get a security guard 2 meet him at the entrance every time after that & say "Rafa said r a twa.t now :censored: off"

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Postby supersub » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:06 pm

aCe' wrote:He’s a good player and at the prices being quoted there’s no wonder the big clubs are after his signature ... off the field you can call him all the names you want but imo he’s proven yet and again when he’s started for us that hes a good player and that hes up to playing at the top level...

good luck wherever you end up...

You are having a george giraffe...pennant a good player :laugh:
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Postby Zidane » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:21 pm

He's good enough to be a squad player for us but Rafa doesn't rate him so it doesn't really matter, should be sold asap.
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Postby Madmax » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:30 pm

His a adecent player. I though he was going to be a hit when he arrived. I doubt he will sign the contract and will consider his own interests- the spondoolies..Dont blame him.
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Postby aCe' » Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:35 pm

supersub wrote:
aCe' wrote:He’s a good player and at the prices being quoted there’s no wonder the big clubs are after his signature ... off the field you can call him all the names you want but imo he’s proven yet and again when he’s started for us that hes a good player and that hes up to playing at the top level...

good luck wherever you end up...

You are having a george giraffe...pennant a good player :laugh:

hey i thought we were best buddies mate wat happened  :laugh:

i dont care how u put it... good, average, decent..whatever..

imo hes a better right winger than kuyt, benayoun, elzar, lucas or anyone else we have there bar gerrard... only my opinion ofcourse but there ya go.. i think kuyts a sht player.. some rate him very highly.. hell some think hes better than berbatov... go figure..

its funny though with pennant.. uv been around long enough to know.. when hes played he done well.. remember all the talk about him not being in the england squad and all that.. the championsleague final.. 2006 our most assists along with gerrard...

dont remember many singling him out for criticism when he played for us 2006 and the little in 2007... calls for improvement in the position but not many were saying he ws rubbish...

theres MANY out there who are better than him... they cost big cash though because good natural wingers are hard to find now... i mean seriously... A.Valencia for 15million... give me a break ! Bentley for 16 or whatever it was...  :glare:
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