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by **Bad Bob** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:51 pm

I mentioned Henry in another thread a few days back and was surprised to see a few people dismiss him as "past it." Not a chance he's past it*, in my books, and he would be an absolutely top drawer addition to the side in January. I can't see it happening for a number of reasons (price, his sentiment for Arsenal, etc.) but one can dream.

FWIW, Robbie Fowler was "past it" when we brought him back but he was still a fantastic addition that made a huge impact in that 2005-06 season so being past their best does not mean we should be ruling certain players out. As Cigs has said, a cagey veteran who's been there and done it all before is just what we need to cope with the pressures of a title challenge, IMO.

by **hello_red** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:00 am

In jan I would love to see Heinze come in, great player and has bags of experience. Henry is most likely never gonna happen due to his Arsenal loyalty but again I would love to see him come in.

How about a player like Seedorf? Hes getting on a bit, we could place a cheeky bid in for him.

by **Quadrophenia** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:11 am

Experinced prem winner? Well there's no point looking at a forward (yet) in my opinion because if Torres gets over this injury and stays fit and Keane finds form it'd be a bench player we'd be looking at and Henry won't want that, not even for Liverpool. Plus we've got the world's best number 14.

We need to take a look at the positions that need strenght, that's the full back and to a lesser extent the wings. Full back position, well the best options of experinced winners of the leauge are Heinze and Bridge - both of whom we've been linked with, both of whom I don't want because I don't think they're great. Other side there's Lauren or Fer...that :censored:

Portugeese fella Chelsea had. Lauren was good in his prime but past it now, better cover than Degen mind you and that Chelsea right back was just useless. So the winners of the league who played full back aren't good enough and I'd prefer to see Insua and Darby given a proper go if one of our more experinced full backs takes an injury.

On to the wings, well there's Robben, Duff, Beckham, Ljungberg and Pires. Couldn't bare to see Robben at Anfield, Beckham is overrated and past it, Ljungberg and Pires gone and Duff is a possibility but not the player he was before or during his time at Chelsea. So again the wide problems don't seem to be sorted out by experinced winners unless we go back to Stuart Ripley and Jason Wilcox of Blackburn. Oh we can't they were hardly the best either. :laugh:

So we're left at square one for me. I don't want to waste money on someone like Henry to warm the bench when we could get Owen back for half the price to do the same job. One of the best players the Premiership has seen was Viera but we don't need anyone for that position. A sub keeper because that Brazilian we've got is a shambles and I don't mean Lucas this time. Lets look down the list...Roy Carroll? no. Jens Lehmann? no. Cudichini? yes but would Chelsea sell him to us? no.

OK so I don't think we need a proven premiership winner. I'd throw the money we have at somebody like Aaron Lennon who has refound some form, just needs to work on his final ball and Wayne Hennersay from Wolves, who is the best keeper outside the Prem and better than most in it. He'd be great cover if god forbid Reina took a serious injury. Plus with him being Welsh, big Tosh can put the word in.

by **tubby** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:27 am

Maybe someone like Vicente or Joaquin. Shouldn't cost as much a few years ago and surley still good enough for the Premiership.

by **LFC2007** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:30 am

bavlondon wrote:Maybe someone like Vicente or Joaquin. Shouldn't cost as much a few years ago and surley still good enough for the Premiership.

Yeh, experienced prem players they are.

by **Leonmc0708** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:59 am

Bam wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:Henry - got a hard on

MArtins - got an inny.

"inny"

Are you talking about you're belly button Leon ?

No, think cold day or cocaine fuelled 3 day binge.

by **bigmick** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:24 am

Edu, sweet left foot and was a smashing player in a veru good Arsenal team. Don't know if he's any good these days or whether he plays for Sporting Gijon, Albacete, Alicante or Dukla Prague, but a good player nontheless.

More realistically, I reckon if we went for Henri we'd get him. He was IMHO the best player ever to play in the Premiership, and as such if he retains 75% of his ability would be a huge aquisition. I even think the Gooners fans would be OK with it too. If we could get up and prevent either the Mancs or Chelsea winning the Prem, they'd most probably cheer us on I should think. They're hardly going to win it themselves, and in any case with their youngsters they'll be right up there in a couple of years anyway as long as they keep Wenger.

by **Quadrophenia** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:39 am

Is Van Bronkhurst still going? If we're looking for a stop gap at the left back position he wouldn't be the worst choice, always thought he was good enough when he was at Arsenal.

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:40 am

ruud van nistelrooy. eidur gudjohnsen or however u spell it.

by **Quadrophenia** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:43 am

bigmick wrote:Edu, sweet left foot and was a smashing player in a veru good Arsenal team. Don't know if he's any good these days or whether he plays for Sporting Gijon, Albacete, Alicante or Dukla Prague, but a good player nontheless.

We don't need a central midfielder though mate and even if we did Edu wouldn't be on my list. Thought he was a poor player at Arsenal personally.

by **LFC2007** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:45 am

Eidur Gudjohnsen.

An intelligent, experienced player with good ability. More than capable of linking the play and offers decent-good goal threat. A good quality back up at the very least.

Heinze as cover for Aurelio, great attitude and work ethic, solid defender. Van Bronckhorst would be a possible alternative, except he's much more attacking.

Henry, fairly unlikely but worth a shout for obvious reasons.

Pires is another - Anfield is his favourite away ground, although I see him as 40/1 outsider as he seems settled at Villarreal.

Crespo - there's one to ponder. I wouldn't but not because of a lack of quality.

by **bigmick** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:46 am

Quadrophenia wrote:
bigmick wrote:Edu, sweet left foot and was a smashing player in a veru good Arsenal team. Don't know if he's any good these days or whether he plays for Sporting Gijon, Albacete, Alicante or Dukla Prague, but a good player nontheless.

We don't need a central midfielder though mate and even if we did Edu wouldn't be on my list. Thought he was a poor player at Arsenal personally.

Another central midfielder is needed if we still have the need to play Lucas occasionally. Also, I suspect Edu could play left-midfield as well which would help out Riera a bit.

You say you thought he was a poor player at Arsenal? Are we thinking about the same bloke, dark haired Brazillian fella with a sweet left foot? Maybe's I'm getting the fecker mixed up with someone else it wouldn't be the first time, but the one I remember was a lovely footballer.

Still, all about opinions I suppose.

by **bigmick** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:49 am

LFC2007 wrote:Eidur Gudjohnsen.

An intelligent, experienced player with good ability. More than capable of linking the play and offers decent-good goal threat. A good quality back up at the very least.

Heinze as cover for Aurelio, great attitude and work ethic, solid defender. Van Bronckhorst would be a possible alternative, except he's much more attacking.

Henry, fairly unlikely but worth a shout for obvious reasons.

Pires is another - Anfield is his favourite away ground, although I see him as 40/1 outsider as he seems settled at Villarreal.

Crespo - there's one to ponder. I wouldn't but not because of a lack of quality.

Gudjohnson is a top shout, could most likely play with Torres as well. Heinz would probably be better than Aurelio I would have thought, never mind cover for him, while Pires was a fantastic player I thought. Bit namby pamby for my taste but as good a left mid as you will see I should think.

Henry for me though, can play left side or up top. Feck me what a footballer he was, nice fella with it too by all accounts.

by **bigmick** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:51 am

Feck me LFC I'm your erse tonight, I always thought Crespo was a fecking brilliant striker. Thinking mans centre forward who if played regualrly would rip the Premiership up for erse paper.

Next bloke you mention I'm going to totally disagree with regardless of who it is or people will start talking.

by **Quadrophenia** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:52 am

bigmick wrote:
Quadrophenia wrote:
bigmick wrote:Edu, sweet left foot and was a smashing player in a veru good Arsenal team. Don't know if he's any good these days or whether he plays for Sporting Gijon, Albacete, Alicante or Dukla Prague, but a good player nontheless.

We don't need a central midfielder though mate and even if we did Edu wouldn't be on my list. Thought he was a poor player at Arsenal personally.

Another central midfielder is needed if we still have the need to play Lucas occasionally. Also, I suspect Edu could play left-midfield as well which would help out Riera a bit.

You say you thought he was a poor player at Arsenal? Are we thinking about the same bloke, dark haired Brazillian fella with a sweet left foot? Maybe's I'm getting the fecker mixed up with someone else it wouldn't be the first time, but the one I remember was a lovely footballer.

Still, all about opinions I suppose.

We don't need another central midfielder, whether we have to play Lucas or not. Lucas might not be a world star, or even a remotely average star but there's no need for another central midfielder because if any of our three need a rest we revert to 4-4-2 (which we should be playing anyway in my opinion which means it'd be one of the three world class midfielders on the bench to come in and replace the one who needs a rest).

The Edu I remember was also dark haired, left footed and Brazilian but then again so was Sylvinho who also played for Arsenal at left back.

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